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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 12:05:56 PM

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also wouldn't be written by you as it's a rather well known line from Office Space...but that's just a sidenote. We'll keep this post on assumptions rather than plagarism.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 4:35:48 PM

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I did notice you use the word "assume" a few times, so, oh this is so trite...(ahem!)
"when you assume you make and ass out of 'u' and me."
Also, take another look at your favorite saying attached to your posts. I really hope you don't feel that way!
Welcome, again! Sorry I missed this while it was happening!

yes i do assume because it's a natural reaction...i did say it many times because i am not trying to hide this fact, but from some of the replies i've gotten, i get the feeling that i may be the only one in this board that does this? i know that this can't be possible as people assume many things, it just may be that they don't do it in a negative outlook.

O, and for my sig...i thought it was funny so i used it, i don't believe in that honestly because i do understand and see that my life would be sh!t if i lived that way and i cherish my youth and my life.

I agree that making asumptions happens often. I can do it Myself when in an emotional state and that "knee jerk" reaction kicks in before I have time to think. But I would view "assumptions" as "jumping to conclusions", where as, if you can take some time, and think things through you can logically "draw a conclusion". Big difference in My mind, but that is just Me.
I have lots of things I can be cynical and angry about but it really takes an awful lot of emotional energy, and I would rather save that energy for things that are more productive for Me. Life can be tough enough!
I wish you happiness and peace of mind.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 6:25:32 PM

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what is wrong with these people? i was just talking to what i believe to be a female sub, and once i sent her (him) a pic, she (he) signs off right away. i know that doesn't say it is a male, but it's as close to a fact as you can get.

i'm just asking because even though i am a top and i live in this culture, i'm normal.

please, discuss

Maybe they just did not like what they saw - you did not say what picture you sent.

I find it is best to send a picture of me, fully-dressed, right at the start, sitting in my wheelchair, that way they can just not answer my representation, and there are no bad feelings lying around.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 6:56:56 PM

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also wouldn't be written by you as it's a rather well known line from Office Space...but that's just a sidenote. We'll keep this post on assumptions rather than plagarism.

i just copy and pasted that line from a site...i can understand that it looks like i wrote that...i didn't know it came from office space...i hear that show is hilarious, but i don't get it from where i live.

p.s. i'll just replace it instead

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 6:59:33 PM

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also wouldn't be written by you as it's a rather well known line from Office Space...but that's just a sidenote. We'll keep this post on assumptions rather than plagarism.

btw, other than the quote....what are you implying? Are you saying that everything that is actually written on the board from me isn’t from me and that I someone copy and pasted this thread?

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:00:21 PM

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haha...Office Space was a movie bro...but no worries.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:03:45 PM

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Maybe they just did not like what they saw - you did not say what picture you sent.

I find it is best to send a picture of me, fully-dressed, right at the start, sitting in my wheelchair, that way they can just not answer my representation, and there are no bad feelings lying around.

Regards

i didn't send a naked picture...who does this? what kind of first impression (online or off) are you trying to give if you did something like that?

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:05:21 PM

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During the incredibly brief period immediately after my first gaining access to the internet, when I haunted chatrooms much in the way that i haunt discussion boards now, I spent a fair amount of time in an adult-oriented chatroom for bisexuals. By and large, I used the nickname Aristotle, which I thought rather indicitive of being male. The number of very surprised young men who were rather disappointed (though no fault of my own) to discover that I was not blonde, buxome, or female has always astounded me.

I did, for a short time, log on under a female persona (who is the same female persona that manifests when I seriously undergo the effort to cross-dress), and found myself absolutely giddy with admirers. For an attention starved net geek, one can understand the appeal of such attentions. I got bored with the whole cyber phenominon within a few weeks of discovering it, and for the most part have no desire for chat (I prefer the luxury of stating exactly what I wish to say, without people having to scroll up to find the comment I was responding to because a dozen others with swifter fingers and shorter thoughts have jumbled up the conversation), but if that is your cup of tea, I can see how such gay deception might prove amusing.

This is not to say that I particularly condone such deception, merely that I can understand it. As a "lifestyle" gamer and roleplayer, taking on a female persona, or a non-human persona, is quite acceptable to me, but I am also used to being able to look up across the table at my fellow players and know who they really are as people and as my friends. That lack of a personal connection is one (of many) things that turned me away from chat.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:05:25 PM

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haha...Office Space was a movie bro...but no worries.

hey i saw that on comedy centrel...fvckin' hilarious sh!t! i don't remember the quote, but then what's teh british tv show then? that's where the guy's website i said it was from?

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:10:01 PM

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wow...you really do jump to some wild assumptions don't you guy.

I make a comment about your sig qoute and you think I'm saying you copy and pasted everything. First off you'd be hard pressed to find as many ignorant comments and replies as you've written on any board by any person so I'm quite certain you took the lack of time to write them yourself. Much easier that way.

Second, you start an entire post on the basis that when a girl saw your picture she immediately stopped wanting to talk to you. Dear god are you really that oblivious or have that inflated of an ego? I'm pretty certain everyone else here came a bit closer with the conclusion that she saw you, didn't like what she saw, and blocked/banned you cause she just had no intention or desire to talk to you. I'm also certain if she took the time to actually read the banter that you come out with as well, she made the right decision.

Come on man, think about it. If it really was a man posing as a woman looking for men...why would she run away from someone who was a man when it was the intention of his deception? Just not really a well thought out idea. You really need to stop and actually breathe between posts guy...thinking before you speak doesn't really hurt you that bad does it?

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:11:27 PM

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Rule of thumb. If you stick your ass out at us, we will swat it. Dom/mes & subs alike ;)

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Oooh! ohh ohh ooh! Where's that ass-wiggling smiley when you need it?

(just kidding, but with a line like that...)

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:14:10 PM

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wow...you really do jump to some wild assumptions don't you guy.

I make a comment about your sig qoute and you think I'm saying you copy and pasted everything. First off you'd be hard pressed to find as many ignorant comments and replies as you've written on any board by any person so I'm quite certain you took the lack of time to write them yourself. Much easier that way.

Second, you start an entire post on the basis that when a girl saw your picture she immediately stopped wanting to talk to you. Dear god are you really that oblivious or have that inflated of an ego? I'm pretty certain everyone else here came a bit closer with the conclusion that she saw you, didn't like what she saw, and blocked/banned you cause she just had no intention or desire to talk to you. I'm also certain if she took the time to actually read the banter that you come out with as well, she made the right decision.

Come on man, think about it. If it really was a man posing as a woman looking for men...why would she run away from someone who was a man when it was the intention of his deception? Just not really a well thought out idea. You really need to stop and actually breathe between posts guy...thinking before you speak doesn't really hurt you that bad does it?

well then, you must've not read my writing's close enough ah...but yea, it's just naturally of me to 'jump to conclusions' cos that's a part of my personality...usually it's not bad cos my assumptions are trying to connect certain ideas or related topics together.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:28:22 PM

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but honestly from the beginning of my post, i just wanted insight to see why people simply ignore, sign off, or whatever from situations that is no fault of the person who is left there hanging...i saw this as disrepectful because i did nothing to offend her. from most of the people including yourself, you all have the same notion and assumption that see just either didn't engage in my picture because of one factor out of the many possibly ones and i am fine with that. what i don't understand is why not tell the indivdual that you physical or intellictually don't connect. there's nothing wrong with not being physically, maturally, of if it is because of age to want to continue the chat.

i've just been brought up that you don't just leave without a "good-bye" because that's bad manners. maybe i'm wrong or maybe i'm too polite...i don't know...i'm simply giving you my perception of the event and my beliefs of how it should have been dealt with and i was wondering how others would have dealt with that but out of everyone who has replyed, i may have gotten one or two directly giving me his or hers reaction of how he or she would have ended the chat and the rest are just ribbing me (i'm fine with that btw, but at least show me some respect that it's all in fun).

if anyone takes this personal what i have written or if a person has taken any of this the wrong light, then my apologies…the internet can be a hard place to show the difference between sarcasm and seriousness, and newbie just asking others for their opionion

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:39:01 PM

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Wait... I'm confused... I thought the topic was about cyber-drag, but then it's about plagarism, now its about getting moofed? Hey come on - the topic question was actually kind of interesting. Where did the rest of this stuff come from?

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 7:54:42 PM

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There isn't a problem with that though, I would say that just about everyone on this board would agree that just running is immature. The reason people responded in the way they did is because you responded in the way you did. Like begets like.

I don't think anyone here has a specific problem with you, just how/what you said. This may be different than other message boards you frequent with a generally younger or more carefree members, but around here if you say something that someone else doesn't agree with they're going to call you on it. Trust me, I've been on both sides of it many times. Just take a bit longer to compose your messages so you are certain you are clearly conveying what you intended to convey.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 8:14:23 PM

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but honestly from the beginning of my post, i just wanted insight to see why people simply ignore, sign off, or whatever from situations that is no fault of the person who is left there hanging..

There are many reasons a person leaves without saying goodbye: booted, froze up, kid walked in, spouse walked in, had to make a tee time, phone call, or like you assumed just didn't want to talk anymore.

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 8:48:27 PM

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but honestly from the beginning of my post, i just wanted insight to see why people simply ignore, sign off, or whatever from situations that is no fault of the person who is left there hanging..

Sorry, honestly.. from the start of the thread you were assuming because someone went off line they were a guy pretending to be a girl.. Hence the title of the thread.

You can reword it, change it around and try to make nice all you want. Fact remains the same. Someone went offline, while talking to you **gasp**, so you got your panties in a twist and stepped over to the message boards.

In fact you said .. and I quote.

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what is wrong with these people? i was just talking to what i believe to be a female sub, and once i sent her (him) a pic, she (he) signs off right away. i know that doesn't say it is a male, but it's as close to a fact as you can get.

Based on her/him going offline you figure they are a male???

And even if they were male why would something have to be wrong with them?

You also said..

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i'm just asking because even though i am a top and i live in this culture, i'm normal.

Would you please define "normal" for me, I have been trying to find someone that could do that for me for years... no really, please?

Ahhhhhh.. Office Space great movie.. makes me think of other great movies. So now I am off to watch Clerks... just cause it is a great movie..;-)

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 9:40:16 PM

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but honestly from the beginning of my post, i just wanted insight to see why people simply ignore, sign off, or whatever from situations that is no fault of the person who is left there hanging..

Sorry, honestly.. from the start of the thread you were assuming because someone went off line they were a guy pretending to be a girl.. Hence the title of the thread.

You can reword it, change it around and try to make nice all you want. Fact remains the same. Someone went offline, while talking to you **gasp**, so you got your panties in a twist and stepped over to the message boards.

no, you are right, that was what i wrote, but i didn't elabertate it fully as that was my main point...i believe that person to be a male right after receiving a non-nude photo of me and disconneted right afterwards (i believed this because i've heard from others people i've crossed paths with that there are some men who do this..why, this is my question...why?)...and secondly, it is also about decency...i may not have written it on my initial post so you have me there...there's no excuse about that...i shouldn't have written the thread so fast.

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In fact you said .. and I quote.

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what is wrong with these people? i was just talking to what i believe to be a female sub, and once i sent her (him) a pic, she (he) signs off right away. i know that doesn't say it is a male, but it's as close to a fact as you can get.

Based on her/him going offline you figure they are a male???

And even if they were male why would something have to be wrong with them?

i think that's wrong because they are protraying a gender they physical are not. through the profile, it said that the person was a bottom female and when i chatted with the person, she said that she was a bottom. ok, she didn't say she was a 'she,' but i take that face value from the profile...there's no need for assumption there unless that person was lying and if she was actually a he, why don't you tell me ahead of time...i don't care for a bottom transexual just as if she didn't care for me because of my ethnicity, age, or anything else that doesn't suit her.

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You also said..

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i'm just asking because even though i am a top and i live in this culture, i'm normal.

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Would you please define "normal" for me, I have been trying to find someone that could do that for me for years... no really, please?

in the world we live, 'normal' is very subjective - yes - but there are characteristics that most people generally agree on what is normal...can i elaberate my definition on what is normal...honestly, it would be difficult because i don't know how to best describe it...it would have to phyically shown why i believe i'm normal. you would need to see me actually beling me i guess. (a copout...fvck, i guess so, but how do i write what 'normal' is?)...maybe just asking you the same Q; do you believe your normal?

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Ahhhhhh.. Office Space great movie.. makes me think of other great movies. So now I am off to watch Clerks... just cause it is a great movie..;-)

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office space was funny, clerks was interesting...i was never a convience clerk so i don't totally get it, but kevin smith is a fvckin' genuis! mallrats and jay and silent bob are classics in my book! :)

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 9:56:44 PM

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In the world we live in many things are not considered "normal". In fact the majority of things on your list are considered abnormal.

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Chastity Piercing

Clothing and Food Chosen

Enemas

Watersports

Mummification

Naked / Collar & Cuffs

Ownership Tattoos

Play Rape

Rubber / Latex

Fisting

Wax Play

I hate when others answer a question with a question. Do I consider myself "normal". In the sense of the word in society's view no.. in my own little world where I get to make up the rules.. not only am I 'normal" I rock!

I think you are being a bit paranoid, just because someone goes off line while talking to you does not make them a male or a faker or a poser .. hell it could just mean they had a power outage, computer crashed, had to go because the boss was walking in. They may not have been interested in you after seeing your picture... oh hell it could be 101 different reasons. Why you chose to equate it with them being a male is beyond me. I find it similar to when women go to a club and if a man pays attention to them, and the woman does not take interest in them or simply says no thanks.. she is automatically a lesbian.. Please.. let's be real here!

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RE: guys who pretend to be girls - 10/25/2004 10:09:16 PM

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I hate when others answer a question with a question. Do I consider myself "normal". In the sense of the word in society's view no.. in my own little world where I get to make up the rules.. not only am I 'normal" I rock!

lots of people do, i'm the same, but there are times that an explaination won't do it justice and simply repeating the question back to the other person works because once you do ask the question back, they usually will answer the same as if you did and there's always a point when two people agree and something like this comes up, there's usually an instant, a bound or a connection that you just understand...like i say, i can't really explain it, but you'll get it (unless you never experienced it)

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I think you are being a bit paranoid, just because someone goes off line while talking to you does not make them a male or a faker or a poser .. hell it could just mean they had a power outage, computer crashed, had to go because the boss was walking in. They may not have been interested in you after seeing your picture... oh hell it could be 101 different reasons. Why you chose to equate it with them being a male is beyond me. I find it similar to when women go to a club and if a man pays attention to them, and the woman does not take interest in them or simply says no thanks.. she is automatically a lesbian.. Please.. let's be real here!

o yes, i can be paranoid, but not often. like i said, i've come across other men who have told me stories of men pretending to be women for you pictures...why? i don't know, but if mulitply people tell me this, i'll take it that i may be one of those who gets fooled and i believed that i got fooled.

i am real about it...i've told everyone who has read this thread that i do things that isn't good for me...i assume too much (usually believing the worst so that i don't get stock if it's true), i can be paranoid, i act implusly most times before thinking in advance of the reprocussions that might happen afterwards...it's part of being me and being human, but this doesn't mean i'm always like this. most times people may never see a side of this from me, but with this inncident, it did.

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