RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised?

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tazzygirl -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:17:41 AM)
Went to school in the snow we did. Holes in our shoes, walked 5 miles to school, uphill, both ways. You young whipper snappers got it tooooo good! Spoiled rotten bunch of kids!

Ninebelowzero -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:17:51 AM)
same here Daddio. I do remember having my arse kicked flat by the old man on a few occasions though. Sometimes the old bugger caught me. quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam leans on walker We didn't HAVE any goddam internet when I was your age. We hadda go outside and PLAY. Played football in the goddam STREET I'm tellin ya. Barefoot in tha SNOW. And both endzones was uphill too Im tellin ya.

Fornica -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:18:07 AM)
Thanks Admins.

Ninebelowzero -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:18:57 AM)
Shoes? SHOES??? Bloody luxury. e]ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Went to school in the snow we did. Holes in our shoes, walked 5 miles to school, uphill, both ways. You young whipper snappers got it tooooo good! Spoiled rotten bunch of kids! [/quote]

LaTigresse -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:19:16 AM)
Hell, either last week or the week before I not only reported a profile to the mods (though it is still on the site) I reported it to the Feds. The shit that's gone on in that household, per the profile, is totally fucking illegal and disgusting to boot.

tazzygirl -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:20:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero Shoes? SHOES??? Bloody luxury. e]ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Went to school in the snow we did. Holes in our shoes, walked 5 miles to school, uphill, both ways. You young whipper snappers got it tooooo good! Spoiled rotten bunch of kids! We wore hand me downs. Parents didnt want to pay for doctors. And we were beat if our toes fell off.

Fornica -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:22:38 AM)
VAA~ you have mail. LaTigresse ~ was it the cannibal one?

LaTigresse -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:26:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fornica VAA~ you have mail. LaTigresse ~ was it the cannibal one? Hmmmmm no, no cannibalism in the profile I reported, that I remember.

imdmb -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:29:55 AM)
old man face in my day in order to play street fighter we had to go out into the street! and there was no pavement in our day, the best streets were still only cobblestone, most streets were paved with barbed wire and glass! there wasnt any of that haduken crap either, you want blue flame to come out your hands you had to set a popsicle on fire and throw it at them while screaming haduken! grumblegrumble my day grumblegruble damn kids grumblegrumblegrumble

lizi -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:34:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero Errr hang on a sec Lizi. At her age I knew that pulling stunts had serious consequences if my parents found out. I agree with what you say btw, but my kid knows the same thing. I aint a liberal parent. Right! First of all Mom and Dad told you what to expect, right? Also you may have learned a consequence from something previous and were able to connect similar things as having those same consequences...kind of like "well Mom and Dad dont' want me to lie about things, chances are good they'll not want me to steal either because they've said that is bad too." If it's not something a child has been taught or encountered before in any fashion, and they also lack the part of the brain that projects a risk assessment pattern, the children are more vulnerable than an adult. Think of how a child will do something astoundingly crazy (to us that is), and we're usually amazed that they couldn't see how that thing was dangerous or stupid. I'll be willing to bet you have stories of yourself or your progeny of something in that vein. Me....I used to leave the house at night when my parents were asleep and go hang out down the block where the corner bar was and watch the excitement. One man chased me down one night and almost got my pj's off before I got away. I did not put these things together- dark, late, alcohol, sexuality. The bf used to shoot arrows into the air with his friend and then try to catch them. Neither of us had liberal parents, we were however kids. I'm not handing out a blanket excuse here, just saying that biology has something also to do with why we need to watch over our kids - they're unprepared in ways we may not know. Niney, what makes up our physical self is also part of our behavior. Our kids need us in ways we dont' even know. Did you know that if a girl does not have a father figure in her life she will probably enter menstruation early? It is the bodies response to what it perceives as a threat. It wants the child to grow up and be an adult so it can survive better. There are all kinds of connections between ourselves, our environments, and our behavior.

VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:41:41 AM)
Please cmail me the nick

littlewonder -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:55:43 AM)
eehh...it's not just kids. I've been able to find addresses and real names from online just from a screenname. Kids do it because they simply don't care. Adults do it because they simply don't know any better.

Ninebelowzero -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 11:56:48 AM)
Not disagreeing Lizi. I can't. How someone so yuoung can be so cynical to the point of sociopathy is the real concern.

Jaquin -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 12:08:35 PM)
I'd say all three. I'm not nearly as old as some others here (ha ha [:-]) - it was our lack of money as a family that delayed getting a computer and internet till I was a bit older, which meant playing meant "Get your butts outside and don't kill each other". Still did dumb stuff..got the scars to prove it. I remember there was a patch of forest near my house that all the kids played in, built forts had our "wars". Tried to light camp fires.. ended up burning a mattress to cinders. Fortunately for us we had the luck to pick a dirt clearing so we didn't catch any grass on fire, but I learned when I was older just how dumb I was - compounded by an encounter I had there years later where I came across kids who'd set a giant patch of saplings/grass on fire and then ran off when it got to big. Fortunately we were able to get it out before anything serious happened. But it made me think, that I used to do that kind of stuff when I was a kid and why didn't I ever stop to think of just how much damage this could cause? Kids certainly don't look before they leap, they don't see the harm in walking on the back of a couch (that is not up against a wall), or in lighting fires, or visiting adult sites.. they just think it's fun and sadly in this day and age parents can't always be around holding their kids hand. And we can say that their irresponsible for letting their kid do all this stuff, but in the end we gota accept that kids are gona get into trouble - that's a fact. Be it cause you left them for a minute or half a day. All we can do is mop up afterwards and hope that the kid learns their lesson and doesn't do it again.

lizi -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 12:12:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero Not disagreeing Lizi. I can't. How someone so yuoung can be so cynical to the point of sociopathy is the real concern. Well, all I can say about your example here is that after interacting with hundreds and hundreds of kids it might surprise you to know that there is a much smaller portion of them that are fully aware of what kind of damage they are sowing than you'd think. They're pretty simple kids are. They'd take something free and ask questions later. In the example you gave, I think that young woman saw a freebie and went to get it. I'm not sure it's her character....yet. I don't actually think it's cynicism yet, I think it's more simple that that. I think she's got no one to watch over her and I think she wants stuff. If she continues on this path of getting positive results to her anti-social experimentation then it probably will become part of who she is as a person and the sociopathy could be a real result. I could certainly be wrong, but I rarely met a child that didn't want to be supervised and didn't want in the end to have limits. They resist it to the ends of the earth and will love you forever if you care enough to do it. I still get good wishes from my old students and I was an absolute dictator in the classroom. Someone needs to put the smackdown on her and get her in line and she'll probably do ok.

Ninebelowzero -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 12:14:45 PM)
Totally agree Lizi I have seen that with my own boy. He needs routine, & wants limits in place simply to know where he is.

tazzygirl -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 12:19:28 PM)
quote: I could certainly be wrong, but I rarely met a child that didn't want to be supervised and didn't want in the end to have limits. They resist it to the ends of the earth and will love you forever if you care enough to do it. I still get good wishes from my old students and I was an absolute dictator in the classroom. Children have enough friends. They need parents. Someone they can blame when they dont want to do something stupid that their friends want to do, but cant hold to the peer pressure. Someone who sets boundary and limits. Someone who is a rock. This nonsense of "I want to be my child's friend" is the last thing they need. Without someone in their early life setting limits for them, they do not learn where to set them for themselves. Its definitely a no win situation

Epytropos -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 12:20:12 PM)
I think "kids" of that age realize the absurdity of thinking of the web as more dangerous than real life. The internet is populated by people. Now, if you go outside, for example to a bar or supermarket, you will find many people, of various shapes, sizes, demeanors, and backgrounds. The distinction between these two groups of people is that the ones on the web are exactly the same as the ones in real life. My point, sarcasm aside, is that those of us who grew up with the internet don't think of it as a dark alley filled with boogiemen. It's just another body of people. Disproportionate fear of it is irrational.

Kana -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 12:22:46 PM)
Talked to a fake gal once a few years back-she thought she was cute, played games. Unfortunately she did it after she had given me a cell # and an email address-took me one phone call to a hacker pal and I had her name, home addy and, because my pals a hacker, lots of other interesting pertinent personal data, like credit records.. Now, I'm a nice guy so all I did was forward her most of the info, point out that she was playing dangerous games and that not everyone was a scrupulous as I am and that she could really ending up being hurt playing stupid games. Yeah, that chick wasn't smart at all.

tazzygirl -> RE: Invincible, Ignorant, or Unsupervised? (1/17/2012 12:24:04 PM)
This little girl believes she is safe behind the screen. How little she really knows is frightening.

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