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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 7:22:50 AM   
Arturas


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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

No, its called a tattoo, usually of something that means something to them in a specific nature...

I have 7... I do it because i enjoy creating tattoos for myself, I enjoy the personal symbolism... I enjoy the pleasure of knowing whats on my person is mine and mine alone...

I dont do it because i want to mark myself...



Interesting. Seven is quite a few. I'm glad you enjoy them. Were they painful to get?
The tattoos I refer to are sometimes called "tramp stamps" and it only occured to me they might be sometimes subconciously obtained for a similar purpose as the "marks" we are discussing here. In truth, only two girls I know have them and they both love flogging marks, but that may mean nothing. If your tattoos are not along that order perhaps you have them for a different purpose or my musing is simply that.

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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 7:25:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		When i plan on at least 5 more... 7 is not that many...

And I get them as symbols.. I do not have a "tramp stamp" that spot is reserved for ownership/a brand....

And a tattoo is just that a tattoo, i doubt many get them because they are permanent marks,

most i know who get them get them for symbolism... or because they are "cool"


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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 7:53:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Because Click (which you were offensive by the way your entire post screams of Oh my goodness why would anyone like that)

I get off and get hot and get bothered by pain.... I like being spanked, I like being flogged, I like having needles being shoved into my skin.. I like electricity being applied to my person.

How much is enough? When Either I call red, or my Dom gets tired, or theres enough blood to fill a plastic baggy once over...

The marks and bruises are a side effect of getting off on said pain, they make me hot and bothered and wonderful, and i get to poke them...which hurts and makes me hot and bothered and wonderful...

Its not about ownership, or marking or doing anything other then..

It gets me off and makes me hot and bothered and wet... And the sex on subspace and endorphin highs is probably the best sex ive ever had...



If you interpreted my post as saying "Oh my goodness why would anyone like that?" than you grossly misread it.

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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 7:57:06 AM   
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Lately, as I've browsed the photo section on this site which I do from time-to-time, I've noticed a number of the photos showing marks bestowed on a submissive to be extremely severe. And to be honest, I find them to be quite disturbing!!

You may say I react this way because I am not a practicer of corporal punishment, and I've never hidden the fact with anyone here that I am not a Sadist. However, I honestly feel it is my "humane" side that reacts as it does when I see photos of people undeniably BEATEN to the point of spots that go beyond mere bruisings and flesh that is not all...shall I say intact?

Personally, I have not experienced the necessity to physically mark anyone who has been my submissive in order to feel that he belongs to me. For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.

But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?

I hope I have chosen my words carefully enough not to offend nor anger anyone. For that was surely not my intention.
Thanks.





No I dont know how i came to that conclusion at all.. Maybe it was the obvious condescension on those who arent as humane as you....


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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:01:49 AM   
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Being logical, I would suggest to you that if you know you have that reaction to marks, you probably shouldn't seek pictures out in the interest of your own sensibilities .  Specifically going to look when you are fully aware that there are a number of sadists and masochist here  who enjoy their play shots probably makes about as much sense as the person who goes out of their way to go inside the bondage club and complain that they can see people who are tied up once they have entered the building.
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Oh! I'm hardly going in search of these photos, and have no idea why you feel I am??? Good lawd!'
And as I said in my initial post, these are INTENSE photos of markings, not your "everyday type" photos.

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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:12:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: Clickofheels


For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.

But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?

I hope I have chosen my words carefully enough not to offend nor anger anyone. For that was surely not my intention.
Thanks.






In truth, many of the more serious marks show up in the morning, so I don't make any judgement based on the severity of marks since they are not all present in their final form during our "love making/slave girl bound and being flogged and used by the evil captor" session. Instead, I judge based on completetly different physical clues, her breathing, her movements, her responses to my verbal demands, how her wrists move in the bindings, all of these are clues one will watch since a sub in love is not likely to use a safe word no matter what, but that is a subject for a different thread I suspect.


(I am using this opportunity to highlight some of the things I said in my post that seem to have been overlooked by some.)

Thanks for your kind, candid, and nonabrasive response to my post, Arturas! (Smiles)
It was what I was hoping for when I asked my question.

Regards,
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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:18:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well Master and I are one of those "intense" players I guess. He likes extreme marks, he likes cuts, deep bruises...the more the better. He's a sadist. He takes great joy in those marks...as I do as well because he left them.

Why do we do it? Because we like them. If someone else thinks they are extreme...so what? Is it inhumane? Probably to some. As for me....yes and no. I'm his slave, his fucktoy, his cunt, slut, slave and...it. At that point...I'm not seen as "human" so sure....inhumane. lol

He's a sadist....of course he's going to leave extreme marks. I mean if he didn't I would not consider him a sadist. I like that he can do that to me because he can and will. He does as he pleases.

I would say if you don't like those kinds of marks, that's fine. Don't get with a sadist. If you don't like the pics....shrug, say not for me, and pass them by.



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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:23:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

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ORIGINAL: Clickofheels

Lately, as I've browsed the photo section on this site which I do from time-to-time, I've noticed a number of the photos showing marks bestowed on a submissive to be extremely severe. And to be honest, I find them to be quite disturbing!!

You may say I react this way because I am not a practicer of corporal punishment, and I've never hidden the fact with anyone here that I am not a Sadist. However, I honestly feel it is my "humane" side that reacts as it does when I see photos of people undeniably BEATEN to the point of spots that go beyond mere bruisings and flesh that is not all...shall I say intact?

Personally, I have not experienced the necessity to physically mark anyone who has been my submissive in order to feel that he belongs to me. For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.

But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?

I hope I have chosen my words carefully enough not to offend nor anger anyone. For that was surely not my intention.
Thanks.





No I dont know how i came to that conclusion at all.. Maybe it was the obvious condescension on those who arent as humane as you....



With all due respect, Spirited Radiance? I have absolutely NO wish to argue you with nor anyone anywhere on this site.... I had more than my fill of that when I first came here.
You are more than welcome to put my posts on permanent ignore, or skip reading them when my name appears on your screen. I will not be offended in the least.
(Shrugs) Other than that, I'm not going to spend my time here by defending every word I have posted until it reaches your satisfaction.

Sorry...
Ms Clickofheels


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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:25:41 AM   
SpiritedRadiance


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Status: offline 		Your the one who asked where i could come up with you being offensive..

I highlighted the parts I found offensive.

Dont want it highlighted or pointed out to you, dont ask for an explanation..

If its not for you its not for you, thats super, it is for me and a few dozen others that i know personally...

Dont claim its inhumane because you personally dont like it....



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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:27:20 AM   
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Well Master and I are one of those "intense" players I guess. He likes extreme marks, he likes cuts, deep bruises...the more the better. He's a sadist. He takes great joy in those marks...as I do as well because he left them.

Why do we do it? Because we like them. If someone else thinks they are extreme...so what? Is it inhumane? Probably to some. As for me....yes and no. I'm his slave, his fucktoy, his cunt, slut, slave and...it. At that point...I'm not seen as "human" so sure....inhumane. lol

He's a sadist....of course he's going to leave extreme marks. I mean if he didn't I would not consider him a sadist. I like that he can do that to me because he can and will. He does as he pleases.

I would say if you don't like those kinds of marks, that's fine. Don't get with a sadist. If you don't like the pics....shrug, say not for me, and pass them by.




LOL I OBVIOUSLY chose the wrong word at the time I was struggling for the best one to explain myself when I used "humane." Let's see... how about emotional? Soft-hearted? Compassionate?
Something tells me whatever word I try to insert, it's not going to...errr... "cut it?"



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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:28:39 AM   
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Yup, he can be cruel lol. He's a sadist.

He can also be compassionate, warm, loving, and every other emotion.



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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:30:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Your the one who asked where i could come up with you being offensive..

I highlighted the parts I found offensive.

Dont want it highlighted or pointed out to you, dont ask for an explanation..

If its not for you its not for you, thats super, it is for me and a few dozen others that i know personally...

Dont claim its inhumane because you personally dont like it....




Yes, I noticed you highlighted "surely your choice" and "attempting to be your judge and jury" although you left out the word "NOT" in front of that.
"For that was not my intention" got omitted too.

So I see how that could be construed as me trying to be offensive. LMAO




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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:31:06 AM   
SpiritedRadiance


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Status: offline 		How about you instead of trying to justify whats going on...You simply say not for me...

I find my partners who fulfill my masochistic needs to be compassionate... soft hearted and emotional towards me

I find the person I let beat me to a bloody pulp someone who loves and cares for me in a deep way because they love me enough to hurt me.....

You see blood and deep bruises as someone being cruel... I see it as someone being loving....caring and showing a deep amount of compassion. I see it as exciting and thrilling and wondering what was used, and when can i do that....


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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:32:34 AM   
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cruel? Is that the word you're seeking?

Yup, he can be cruel lol. He's a sadist.

He can also be compassionate, warm, loving, and every other emotion.




No, it was not.
Not in the least.


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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:34:36 AM   
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How about you instead of trying to justify whats going on...You simply say not for me...

I find my partners who fulfill my masochistic needs to be compassionate... soft hearted and emotional towards me

I find the person I let beat me to a bloody pulp someone who loves and cares for me in a deep way because they love me enough to hurt me.....

You see blood and deep bruises as someone being cruel... I see it as someone being loving....caring and showing a deep amount of compassion. I see it as exciting and thrilling and wondering what was used, and when can i do that....



Spirited Radiance? I honestly don't care anymore...it's not worth this, truly.
Now leave me be.

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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 8:36:48 AM   
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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 11:15:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think of them as a nice little souvenirs. I enjoy knowing I was able to accept such a level of play. I love watching the bruises/marks change colours and patterns. I also like knowing when I move or touch that area, it will hurt, and remind me of the fun 

If you're not a masochist, or don't enjoy the pics, file it under "Not my kink."


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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 11:38:46 AM   
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You may say I react this way because I am not a practicer of corporal punishment, and I've never hidden the fact with anyone here that I am not a Sadist. However, I honestly feel it is my "humane" side that reacts as it does when I see photos of people undeniably BEATEN to the point of spots that go beyond mere bruisings and flesh that is not all...shall I say intact?


*raises hand* I look like this a lot, and I didn't have to work I'd want to look like this more often. You're missing the point, and that is what is insulting in what you say. I consented to this kind of treatment and I WANT it. It's that way for all of us, unless it's non consensual.

Beyond the joy of new marks and scars, I love the experience thoroughly, I love that it is something I can share with my partner.

Nothing is worse than being judged as "extreme" "inhumane" "insane" or watching your partner get accused of harming you, especially by others who claim involvement themselves in BDSM. You haven't necessarily said or done these things, but this mentality exists.

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Personally, I have not experienced the necessity to physically mark anyone who has been my submissive in order to feel that he belongs to me. For those of you who feel that need, that is SURELY YOUR CHOICE. And I am not attempting to be your judge and jury in any way.


Um these are none of the reasons why I and many others I know engage in extend S&M. We do it because we enjoy sadism and/or masochism, or one of the two with an interest in DS as well.

Sadism also often makes lousy punishment for a masochist, that's why my partner licks my forehead.

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But I thought since the topic for this thread is "leaving marks", I might pose the question...at what point should "enough" become "enough?" The inflicter is the one who "sees" the results from a vantage point that the inflictee doesn't immediately have. So I'm curious as to how the Dominant makes that judgement call?


There is always communication, lots of it. What I've recognized about edge play is that there are just as many of not more limits. The lines are just very different and around simpler things. Tone of voice, spot on the body, where and when, what and how. The higher the stakes the more important the details become. It's part of what I love about edge play.

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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 11:51:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't mark easy but when I do mark, oh hell do i mark. I am proud of my marks, reminders, evidence etc.

I do however get a lot less now we live closer as less need to fit 2 months worth of sessions into a few days :D

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RE: Leaving marks/bruises - 1/31/2012 11:56:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I should also add, if you dislike looking at cuts/bruising/piercing etc then DO NOT look at my photos LOL

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