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kalikshama -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 5:55:10 AM)

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If those with "strong religious views" are going to favour the polyNewt over a rival with no history of cheating on his other half, then they're as big a bunch of hypocritical arsewits as Gringrich is, frankly.


Good point.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 6:07:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Based upon what I've seen and heard, given the current crop of repub offerings. there are going to be a lot of people reluctantly voting for Obama.


As another independent, I would have to say I agree with this.






fucktoyprincess -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 6:12:04 AM)

Regardless of the negative bashing that may take place in the campaigns as we head into the fall, at the end of the day, I still want to hear about what vision people have for the future, what policies they support, what their ideas are around economics and social issues. And on all of those things, the Democrats and Obama line up better in terms of what I want to see happen for the future. Will they be successful? That is a different issue. Our governmental system does not allow for dramatic change that easily. There are a lot of people in Congress to convince before you can move forward with anything. And Congress has become slow to move - even slower than usual. I don't see this as the sitting President's fault per se. This is just the way the system works.

Any of us who want change have to continue to support the current President. I have not seen a single positive suggestion coming out of the mouths of ANY of the Republican candidates. Not one.

If any of you have time this fall during the election, help bring voters to the polls. I had friends who did this the last presidential election, and I am thinking of doing the same this year. They went to areas of the country where polls were tight and helped people - the poor, the elderly, etc. simply get to the voting centers and then get home. If you support liberal policies, anything one can do to get voter turnout always helps the liberal side of the equation. There are more liberals in American than conservatives when you really peel back the layers of people's beliefs. But some of the liberals will not make it out to vote without some assistance (and I don't want to start a debate on why people can't get out to vote - just help those who can't - even if it is offering a ride to an elderly neighbor or something).




subrob1967 -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 8:11:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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And thanks to Tarp, Stimulus, and bailouts, America is seeing record high unemployment claims


They are?

Hmmm

2009 14.2 15.1 15.7 15.8 16.4 16.5 16.5 16.7 16.8 17.2 17.1 17.1 2009
2010 16.7 16.9 16.9 17.0 16.6 16.5 16.5 16.6 16.9 16.8 16.9 16.6 2010
2011 16.1 15.9 15.7 15.9 15.8 16.2 16.1 16.2 16.4 16.0 15.6 15.2


Perhaps you should read up on these things, rob.


Perhaps you should add all the people who have been unable to find work after their 99 weeks of "benefits" run out. Just because claims went down due to seasonal hiring doesn't mean the numbers are getting better. Your numbers are all smoke and mirrors.




slvemike4u -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 8:32:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


its all down to Obama playing nasty????
REALLY?
gooood heavens, do people actually believe that???


Seems subrob does,what "people" actually believe is another matter [:D]




Owner59 -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 8:34:13 AM)

Nobody ever said it was good to be unemployed or were happy with the high numbers.


Somehow voting for the stooges who put us in this mess in the 1st place just doesn`t seem to be logical.


The smoke and mirrors act is coming from republicans trying to shirk their responsibility for creating all those unemployed.




Lucylastic -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 8:39:25 AM)

Trying to shirk?
if only it was TRYING ...
theyve scored the touchdown on shirking
dirty shirkers




Lucylastic -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 8:47:23 AM)

I wanted to share this because I caught it last night and I spread hot chocolate all over my monitor (sarah palins latest gift to us)
Oh the Ironing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgLlVN9qYBQ&feature=related




Owner59 -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 9:08:48 AM)

I think we vetted Sarah pretty good.[:D]




Moonhead -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 9:17:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
Are you suggesting that the POTUS can't do more than one thing at a time? Because that is not exactly an endorsement ya know[8|]

At least he can eat a pretzel and breathe at the same time...




tazzygirl -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 11:10:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

And thanks to Tarp, Stimulus, and bailouts, America is seeing record high unemployment claims


They are?

Hmmm

2009 14.2 15.1 15.7 15.8 16.4 16.5 16.5 16.7 16.8 17.2 17.1 17.1 2009
2010 16.7 16.9 16.9 17.0 16.6 16.5 16.5 16.6 16.9 16.8 16.9 16.6 2010
2011 16.1 15.9 15.7 15.9 15.8 16.2 16.1 16.2 16.4 16.0 15.6 15.2


Perhaps you should read up on these things, rob.


Perhaps you should add all the people who have been unable to find work after their 99 weeks of "benefits" run out. Just because claims went down due to seasonal hiring doesn't mean the numbers are getting better. Your numbers are all smoke and mirrors.



Perhaps you need to realize these are U6 figures.. which include those people you mentioned.




MrRodgers -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 11:10:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Obama is raising 1 billion dollars, and has no record to run on, his only strategy is to go negative... Look at what they did to Palin, and Cain.

No matter who wins the Republican nomination, we're in for a street fight.


AGAIN...Obama's employment and growth numbers are the same as Reagan's at this point in his first term and the joke was which dem...is going to loooooooose in Nov. Of course their approach has always negative against the dems, truth or lies.

That's right under this term and here Reagan be losing as incompetent but of course, Reagan then...was a repub, so it was still 'morning in America again.' [sic]

The differences in the dem congress then were legion compared to this congress. The dems FIRST priority was NOT to make Reagan a one term pres.

It is all a matter of the perspective created by the lies you wish to believe. If all I see on at least two networks is how Obama's doing such a terrible job, a completely false assessment, eventually more and more come to believe it.

BY 2003 W had cut taxes and done such spending (borrowing) and that he and Reagan were never denied or crippled by his congress. Now look what was left by 2007-08 and well before Obama took over and once taking office, the stated priority of the congress now...to fuck him.

Oh and yes, we are firmly and deeply ensconced into the 'Karl Rove Era' of politics. There will be street fights because of the propaganda and lies.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 11:26:15 AM)

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tazzygirl -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 11:34:40 AM)

[:D]



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MrRodgers -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 11:47:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

 
O'Fuck-up's History of Grand Failures:

Healthcare Bill majority of Americans DIDN'T/DON'T want............ FAILURE
ObamaCare closed-door deals, pay-offs, lies, and propaganda........ FAILURE
Trillion dollar stimulus........................................... FAILURE
Dodd/Frank Financial Bill.......................................... FAILURE
$16 trillion dollar debt/Out of control spending................... FAILURE
Multi-million/billion dollar "green energy" taxpayer losses........ FAILURE
Cash for Clunkers (BANKRUPT in weeks).............................. FAILURE
Gulf oil-spill (pathetic slow response)............................ FAILURE
Economy/Jobs (Stimulus to prevent unemployment exeeding 8%)........ FAILURE
Foreign Policy (North Korea and Iran).............................. FAILURE
Gas Prices, Energy Independence & Keystone Pipeline................ FAILURE
Bin Laden caught using BUSH/CHENEY programs he opposed............. FAILURE
Waited 16 HOURS before giving green-light to get Bin Laden......... FAILURE
Voted AGAINST surge in Iraq that WORKED............................ FAILURE
Wimp HAD to leave Iraq (see SOF/Status of Forces Agreement)........ FAILURE
Socialist/Marxist class-warefare bullshit.......................... FAILURE
Endless attempts to raise taxes during a horrible economy.......... FAILURE
Blames Bush, Oil/Insurance Companies, ATMs, etc. for his idiocy.... FAILURE 

Lavish vacations/parties while Americans lose their homes/lives.... FAILURE

[8|]





Talk about drinking the Kool aid. The whole list is undiluted right wing bullshit.




MrRodgers -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 11:51:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven



The majority of Americans hate the current Obamacare plan, 1/2 hate everything about it, and most of the others wanted a single payer plan.
Obama followed Bush's plan to leave Iraq, and Iraq is falling apart
What exactly did attacking Libya have to do with our national security again?
Handled "Arab Spring" quite poorly, and handed Egypt, and Libya to the Muslim Brotherhood
And thanks to Tarp, Stimulus, and bailouts, America is seeing record high unemployment claims
One Navy Seal took a brilliant shot, Somali Pirates are still quite active
Kudos for whacking OBL
I wouldn't be bragging about drone attacks, after roasting Bush for invading Iraq, who had nothing to do with 9-11, and whining about collateral damage for 6 years.


I saw this first then posted this on another: The whole list is undiluted right wing bullshit.




Trismagistus -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 11:55:06 AM)

right wing, left wing, both attached to the same diseased bird that can barely fly anymore, no matter who winds up in office their politics will be the same, only the words will change and we'll all pay the price for believing in them.




Lucylastic -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 12:02:00 PM)


Everyone here knows the system is broken.
so what is your solution??




tazzygirl -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 12:15:03 PM)

Now you know why some have her on hide. [:D]




Moonhead -> RE: It's gonna be NASTY. (1/21/2012 12:21:13 PM)

I have to admit, I'm enjoying the forum a bit more since I did that.
[;)]




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