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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:23:43 PM   
jennileigh8182


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Status: offline 		Huh...I've lost count of how many asshats I've told to "fuck off." Of course, given that most of them couldn't write without using text speak ("how r u doin? care 2 chat?" *shudders*), making a "fakes" website is probably beyond them...

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:27:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I love how above the list of "fakers" there's a note that anyone who thinks they have been mistakenly put on the list should contact the owner so he can "take them through the steps of getting their name removed from the list."  

I kinda wish my name was on the list just so I could find out what these steps are. 

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:29:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jaquin
Edit: I have my doubts on that "TinEyed" site too.  It claims to search the entire internet of pictures (I just did a quick search on my profile picture and it claims it looked through over 2 billion pictures in a fraction of a second) when - while such a thing is doable, the time it would realistically take to take.. and compare images, is impractical.

Even if they do as they claim and crawl the net adding pictures to their database it takes more then a fraction of a second (the page loaded it's search results as if I'd just refreshed the page) to go though that many files.  Look at your own computers virus scanner, scan your folder of porn (who here doesn't have one huh? ).  Even if you only have 100 it takes longer then that site took to supposedly search 2 billion.

It has worked for me.. one guy has sent me various pics.. it found one was a greek singer, another was used on at least 20 other sites, one was a still of pierce bronsan from a 007 movie (head cut off).. and one was a c o c k pic from some guy off a CA craigslist post.. another pic he pasted his head onto some guys body.. It has found pics that were modified (been cut out of a larger one, etc) Out of the 10 or so pics he sent me, 8 were not of him.. I am assuming the head shots were the real him since tineye and google didnt find any other sites with those.. So i guess that makes him part fake?

Does it find them all? no, it cant navigate sites like this one or various other sites that use certain software so there are limitations.. Imo, any help is better than none.. :)



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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:30:50 PM   
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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:32:17 PM   
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I think part of it is that they come onto these forums, venting and huffing....and we just go, "Yeah, so?" They feel they're not getting the necessary pat on the head, so they decided to go some where that they can fawn over each other.



That could very well be it.  People like to be praised for their efforts, I know I'd like a pat on the head now and then.  We're all vain in some way or another, we want recognition for our work because it makes us feel like our effort was justified.

The issue with this person (or people) is that the task they're putting there effort into is not only destructive - and thus seen by most as something we can do without - but it has been done to death before.


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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:36:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jaquin

Edit: I have my doubts on that "TinEyed" site too.  It claims to search the entire internet of pictures (I just did a quick search on my profile picture and it claims it looked through over 2 billion pictures in a fraction of a second) when - while such a thing is doable, the time it would realistically take to take.. and compare images, is impractical.

Even if they do as they claim and crawl the net adding pictures to their database it takes more then a fraction of a second (the page loaded it's search results as if I'd just refreshed the page) to go though that many files.  Look at your own computers virus scanner, scan your folder of porn (who here doesn't have one huh? ).  Even if you only have 100 it takes longer then that site took to supposedly search 2 billion.

You're not understanding the technology involved.  It's nothing like scanning for viruses.  Virus scans require actively parsing through each individual file looking for virus signatures.

TinEye takes the URL of the image you're checking and creates a "digital fingerprint" of the image.  It then searches it's database for other images that contain that fingerprint or fragments of it.  It's like searching a text file for a string, except it's a HUGE file and you have many machines searching it at the same time to speed things up. 

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:38:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jennileigh8182

OK, I give in...can someone send me the link? I'm intrigued.


It's not worth scanning the entire site.  Instead, just Google "collarmefakes <name>" and see if anything comes up.

Note: there are at least two names listed there of people I have talked to on the phone or met.


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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:39:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I looked at that site when it came up on one of the threads a few weeks ago.  Not much to it and I didn't see any dicussions about actual "fakes" just as others said.  It was a fun read for about 45 seconds though. 

I checked out TinEye and put a couple of my images in there.  Didn't find them anywhere.  Seems a bit broken as I use a lot of common pics between my FaceBook, Twitter and CM accounts.

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:42:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: jennileigh8182

OK, I give in...can someone send me the link? I'm intrigued.


It's not worth scanning the entire site.  Instead, just Google "collarmefakes <name>" and see if anything comes up.

Note: there are at least two names listed there of people I have talked to on the phone or met.




You were right...it wasn't as interesting as I imagined it'd be. Kind of amusing that anyone even took the time.

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:42:55 PM   
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What exactly is fake anyway?  


If you are a male Dom, a fake is a chick who won't scurry over and blow you.
If you are a male sub, a fake is a Domme who won't instantly be delighted to cater to your fetish for free.
If you are a Fin Domme, a fake is someone who won't hand over his credit card.

Good little subbies like me tend to not start fake threads

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:45:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jaquin


The issue with this person (or people) is that the task they're putting there effort into is not only destructive - and thus seen by most as something we can do without - but it has been done to death before.


Very true. But what they use for qualification is just bizarre , ie:

quote:

Calls itself a Master yet has to be on the friends list of every new female that joins cm. To me, that just sounds like a troll and not a real Dominant let alone a Master.




< Message edited by OsideGirl -- 1/24/2012 3:46:34 PM >

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:46:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MusicalBoredom
I checked out TinEye and put a couple of my images in there.  Didn't find them anywhere.  Seems a bit broken as I use a lot of common pics between my FaceBook, Twitter and CM accounts.

its not broken, it cant scan websites that use java, i believe.. so it has limitations in that respect.. or maybe you just have found real people and not the fakes, huh?

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:49:42 PM   
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You're not understanding the technology involved.  It's nothing like scanning for viruses.  Virus scan requires actively parsing through individual files looking for virus signatures.

TinEye takes the URL if the image you're checking and creates a "digital fingerprint" of the image.  It then searches it's database for other images that contain that fingerprint or fragments of it.  It's like searching a text file for a string, except it's a HUGE file and you have many machines searching it at the same time to speed things up. 



Granted you can slave computers together to split the processor work - that could explain the speed yes.  However, that doesn't explain the fact that their methodology is flawed, images that I know damn well are on multiple sites come up as 0.  Yes it could be explained as "they just haven't found it yet" - but it could also be that their attempts at gleaning just what this picture is based upon a fingerprint fail.

Software that detects full files from partials, like a song from a clip of sound, do work - but they are far from perfect and they should not be relied upon to give 100% accurate information that you can then base accusations on.


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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:49:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: MusicalBoredom
I checked out TinEye and put a couple of my images in there.  Didn't find them anywhere.  Seems a bit broken as I use a lot of common pics between my FaceBook, Twitter and CM accounts.

its not broken, it cant scan websites that use java, i believe.. so it has limitations in that respect.. or maybe you just have found real people and not the fakes, huh?


I mean I searched for images of me that I knew were on multiple sites.

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:51:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tameeks

I love how above the list of "fakers" there's a note that anyone who thinks they have been mistakenly put on the list should contact the owner so he can "take them through the steps of getting their name removed from the list."  

I kinda wish my name was on the list just so I could find out what these steps are. 




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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:53:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaquin

Edit: I have my doubts on that "TinEyed" site too.  It claims to search the entire internet of pictures (I just did a quick search on my profile picture and it claims it looked through over 2 billion pictures in a fraction of a second) when - while such a thing is doable, the time it would realistically take to take.. and compare images, is impractical.

Even if they do as they claim and crawl the net adding pictures to their database it takes more then a fraction of a second (the page loaded it's search results as if I'd just refreshed the page) to go though that many files.  Look at your own computers virus scanner, scan your folder of porn (who here doesn't have one huh? ).  Even if you only have 100 it takes longer then that site took to supposedly search 2 billion.

You're not understanding the technology involved.  It's nothing like scanning for viruses.  Virus scans require actively parsing through each individual file looking for virus signatures.

TinEye takes the URL of the image you're checking and creates a "digital fingerprint" of the image.  It then searches it's database for other images that contain that fingerprint or fragments of it.  It's like searching a text file for a string, except it's a HUGE file and you have many machines searching it at the same time to speed things up. 




Whoa.

Explain that for the less than technical?

Can I just drag a pic from my pc to the site and itll see if someone is using it?


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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:53:58 PM   
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I checked out TinEye and put a couple of my images in there.  Didn't find them anywhere.  Seems a bit broken as I use a lot of common pics between my FaceBook, Twitter and CM accounts.


Google search does a better job.

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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:55:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tameeks

I love how above the list of "fakers" there's a note that anyone who thinks they have been mistakenly put on the list should contact the owner so he can "take them through the steps of getting their name removed from the list."  

I kinda wish my name was on the list just so I could find out what these steps are. 



There was some mention I saw of "to remove yourself you just have to show us a picture of you holding a piece of paper with your screen name written on it".


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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 3:57:51 PM   
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RE: So, I was over on the "Fakes" website - 1/24/2012 4:03:47 PM   
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Whoa.

Explain that for the less than technical?

That WAS the explanation for the less than technical 

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Can I just drag a pic from my pc to the site and itll see if someone is using it?

No, but you can upload it and then they'll check it.  As has already been pointed out, the fact you may not get hits doesn't mean someone else isn't using it, but that TinEye's site just hasn't crawled  a website where your images are being used or their site prevents that behavior.


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