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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Every time I see a ProDomme claim they're just providing a service, I roll my eyes at the charade.

Basically, the reason they don't talk about it, is because deep down they know exactly what they're doing.  And if they have a shred of decency, part of them is ashamed.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yes, Pro Dommes are fake as hell.  I don't know how many times it has happened out here that fine upstanding cocks of young men have come out here, and related to us a story that invariably proceeds along these lines:

I was camming for a pro mistress, and she made me put on my short bob/spongebob panties, and tie myself up and insert a 3 foot 2x4 sized purple silicone strapon without grease into my virgin asshole, of course, I was spent, but no, she made me kneel with my head up and throat wide open, my one last act of humiliation, (and although she could not actually void into my mouth, she did run into her bathroom and I distinctly heard several flushes from her toilet, and so wishing I could be there...)  after which, I sent her a thousand dollars thru paypal, and the fuckin bitch didnt even cash it.  I felt so cheap.

Oh, that story is a common one, its a cold cruel world out there kids.....    

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
.  Someone who has a URL in their signature is probably trolling for new clients most of the time.

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I just put the signature in this month.

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ORIGINAL: jj292

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ORIGINAL: njlauren

xxblush-

Prob not, but in discussions like these I am not necessarily trying to change a poster's mind, but rather it is to give my opinion that may or may not help someone else. I heard a lot of crap about pro dommes when I was in the so called 'serious bd/sm' scene (that often, quite frankly, took itself so seriously it made me cringe, acted like PTA members or something), about how they weren't real, etc, and I guess having been in that world as a client and knowing some pretty damn cool, caring people who gave a lot of themselves to their clients and what they offered, I wanted to strike a blow on their behalf, too:)

Ultimately, the problem has to do with money. When you bring something down to the level of money, it begins to look dirty. Just like a politician that runs for public office....if he's rich, he looks dirty. If he's not rich, he comes off looking normal, cleaner, and more pure. A woman who has sex because she's in love is a beautiful thing. A woman who has sex because the guy is paying her looks very dirty. There is a huge difference here. Money makes things look dirty.

Pro-doms bring the BDSM interaction down to the level of money. They appear dirty, greedy, and cold. They start to resemble gold-diggers (and some of them are). So that is where most of the negativity is originating from.

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I didn't actually mark it on my calendar

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

So how much does an average Dommes gear cost?
Hows it get paid for?
Last corset I bought for someone it was close to £250.
Boots aint cheap, a pair of cuban silk stockings £30
A purpose built play space £5k

Mmmmm damn these pro's are mercenary bitches.

For the less irony focussed on here that was not dissing pro's in fact the opposite.

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ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

So how much does an average Dommes gear cost?
Hows it get paid for?
Last corset I bought for someone it was close to £250.
Boots aint cheap, a pair of cuban silk stockings £30
A purpose built play space £5k

Mmmmm damn these pro's are mercenary bitches.

For the less irony focussed on here that was not dissing pro's in fact the opposite.

See that's why I've been considering going pro just long enough to fund a well stocked playroom.
Buying toys as a tax deductible just seems so tempting...

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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

Awareness, thank you for the answer. I thought that this was a money issue for you and it seems I was right. The root of all evil or something like that. And I still think you are wanting the world to change. I am not being nasty at all when I wish you luck with that. As for the other things. Yes, I am being paid to not do what I want. Think of it like the old hooker joke...A man doesn't pay a hooker for sex. He pays her to leave after the sex. Pro domming(in my opinion) is much the same. No one is paying me to do something that makes me happy(though on many levels it does) They are paying me to make them happy then leave. And yes I am aware that I just compared being a pro dom to being a hooker. To be honest I don't see why people get so upset about it. In the other thread I compared being a mechanic to being a hooker. The simple and truthful fact is we all trade things for money, for comfort, for a bunch of shallow reasons. If you are above such activity I feel good for you, but I don't see the world changing do to your opinion.

*oh* and as to that whole gigolo thing(thank you for bringing that up because I think there is a male female double standard going on in much of this) A gigolo doesn't get paid for not treating his female friend like a cum bucket. He is being paid for not reminding her that she is older than his mother. For not pointing out the wrinkles. For saying she looks lovely and that she reminds him of a spring breeze across a lake at the mountains.

Do you hate gigolos too? Do you feel sorry for the wealthy women that pay them?

Again about the last part. The part you said you didn't think about. What you originally said " A ProDomme never forgets that every post has the potential to suck in more clients" I'm sorry but you are wrong, and I have pointed out why you are wrong. I don't think about it so not "all" do. And as for having url in a name...don't we all have those once we have made a profile?

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ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

So how much does an average Dommes gear cost?
Hows it get paid for?
Last corset I bought for someone it was close to £250.
Boots aint cheap, a pair of cuban silk stockings £30
A purpose built play space £5k

Mmmmm damn these pro's are mercenary bitches.

For the less irony focussed on here that was not dissing pro's in fact the opposite.

See that's why I've been considering going pro just long enough to fund a well stocked playroom.
Buying toys as a tax deductible just seems so tempting...

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

Mmmmmmmmmm interesting, any market for pro subs?

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

You have to keep in mind the "housewife rule".
If it's something a housewife might buy for herself (mani, pedi, boobs, *lol*, sex toys) then the IRS won't let you write it off. It's possible if it's something really extreme that the average woman wouldn't buy and it's obvious it's because the person is an entertainer  (like 38 triple g boobs, or ten fucking machines) they may allow it.

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

That's a tough one to answer. The lady who could answer it for you with authority is the Tax Domme. She's very good and happily answers questions like yours.