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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

9 you are a ray of sunshine but I am a great deal more cynical than that. I believe a large part of this comes from a hate men foster over the fact that they know they couldn't get some women to spit on them if they were on fire without paying them to do it. It's why Awareness's thoughts about becoming a better person don't work. He seems to believe it is the fault of the pro for giving him what he wants without demanding he be a better person. The truth is it is not the job of every person to make every other person better. It is personal and if someone wants to do things the easy way there will always be someone willing to get paid for it. In this case it is just more annoying to the male ego because it is women cashing in on a male weakness....poor babies...some of them can't deal with things when it is a woman on top and not them.

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ORIGINAL: payingoinker

Just about the money

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ORIGINAL: payingoinker

I don't want to violate site rules. But it is not all that hard to figure out for most.

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

It aint a mirror son it's a statement. defend yourself don't project, I'm not the one spewing bile at a group. You are. Fact.

Piss poor rebuttal . Fact.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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ORIGINAL: payingoinker

I don't want to violate site rules. But it is not all that hard to figure out for most.

you are a sick, perverted (in a go to jail kinda way) individual.

I hope that the Mods ban your ass.


Many of us know RS, and not as a cyber presence. Since it's YOUR mind going to TOS violating activities, what does that say about YOU?

I think THAT is clear.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

*snort* you really ARE that much of a clueles troll, aren't you, oinky?

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ORIGINAL: Fornica

Bullshit. Don't be a passive aggressive fuck. You're making some incredibly vile and slanderous remarks, and masking them as pretending you're implying rather than insinuating is laughable at best.
You started this to troll, appearing illiterate and unable to comprehend the simplest of questions, and have now moved on to complete asshattery in regards to a well known and respected member of the community, for no other reason than to see if you can get the attention that you apparently so desperately crave.
I doubt you have any experience in any of this, and your profile is a reflection of such, your username alone was obviously chosen with your intent to shit-stir in mind.


With all due respect, STOP feeding the freaking troll!

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Just a lost soul swimming in a fish bowl

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

Sadly you lack the significance, gravitas & the moral fibre required to actually upset me.

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Awareness, thank you for the answer. I thought that this was a money issue for you and it seems I was right. The root of all evil or something like that. And I still think you are wanting the world to change. I am not being nasty at all when I wish you luck with that. As for the other things. Yes, I am being paid to not do what I want. Think of it like the old hooker joke...A man doesn't pay a hooker for sex. He pays her to leave after the sex. Pro domming(in my opinion) is much the same. No one is paying me to do something that makes me happy(though on many levels it does) They are paying me to make them happy then leave. And yes I am aware that I just compared being a pro dom to being a hooker. To be honest I don't see why people get so upset about it. In the other thread I compared being a mechanic to being a hooker. The simple and truthful fact is we all trade things for money, for comfort, for a bunch of shallow reasons. If you are above such activity I feel good for you, but I don't see the world changing do to your opinion.

*oh* and as to that whole gigolo thing(thank you for bringing that up because I think there is a male female double standard going on in much of this) A gigolo doesn't get paid for not treating his female friend like a cum bucket. He is being paid for not reminding her that she is older than his mother. For not pointing out the wrinkles. For saying she looks lovely and that she reminds him of a spring breeze across a lake at the mountains.

Do you hate gigolos too? Do you feel sorry for the wealthy women that pay them?

Again about the last part. The part you said you didn't think about. What you originally said " A ProDomme never forgets that every post has the potential to suck in more clients" I'm sorry but you are wrong, and I have pointed out why you are wrong. I don't think about it so not "all" do. And as for having url in a name...don't we all have those once we have made a profile?

ETA- I should read all the posts before I answer one. Was your comment about urls really an attack on Blushs? I thought you were making a statement about women on the other side but if you weren't...that is just childish.

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ORIGINAL: xssve

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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

Awareness, thank you for the answer. I thought that this was a money issue for you and it seems I was right. The root of all evil or something like that. And I still think you are wanting the world to change. I am not being nasty at all when I wish you luck with that. As for the other things. Yes, I am being paid to not do what I want. Think of it like the old hooker joke...A man doesn't pay a hooker for sex. He pays her to leave after the sex. Pro domming(in my opinion) is much the same. No one is paying me to do something that makes me happy(though on many levels it does) They are paying me to make them happy then leave. And yes I am aware that I just compared being a pro dom to being a hooker. To be honest I don't see why people get so upset about it. In the other thread I compared being a mechanic to being a hooker. The simple and truthful fact is we all trade things for money, for comfort, for a bunch of shallow reasons. If you are above such activity I feel good for you, but I don't see the world changing do to your opinion.

*oh* and as to that whole gigolo thing(thank you for bringing that up because I think there is a male female double standard going on in much of this) A gigolo doesn't get paid for not treating his female friend like a cum bucket. He is being paid for not reminding her that she is older than his mother. For not pointing out the wrinkles. For saying she looks lovely and that she reminds him of a spring breeze across a lake at the mountains.

Do you hate gigolos too? Do you feel sorry for the wealthy women that pay them?

Again about the last part. The part you said you didn't think about. What you originally said " A ProDomme never forgets that every post has the potential to suck in more clients" I'm sorry but you are wrong, and I have pointed out why you are wrong. I don't think about it so not "all" do. And as for having url in a name...don't we all have those once we have made a profile?

ETA- I should read all the posts before I answer one. Was your comment about urls really an attack on Blushs? I thought you were making a statement about women on the other side but if you weren't...that is just childish.

You've been the most consistent voice of reason in this thread, and the exchange with Awareness the most interesting conversation, so I'll comment on this - Awareness did describe the dynamic pretty well, even including that the shallowness is on both sides, where goes off the rails is subjectively condemning it as some kind a character issue, and you basically said what I was going to say about paying a ho to go away.

Sure, it's shallow an cynical to sell your ass, just as shallow and cynical as it is to pay for it in order to avoid personal entanglements, from a strictly character standpoint, but it doesn't change a thing: people have been doing it since the dawn of time, they'll be doing it till the sun burns out, largely due to the nature of physical reality and the laws of physics. The four dimensions, time and space: relationships take time, require proximity, we'd all love to have sex whenever and wherever the urge strikes us, with the person of our choice, but the laws of physics dictate that when and who with are often mutually exclusive, sort of an uncertainty principle of sex - you can either have it with the person of your choice, when it's convenient for both of you, or you can have it whenever you want, but you can't be too choosy about who it's with.

So if you look at it like a simple economic issue of supply and demand, which it is, then you can analyze it as an economic issue: a service is being exchanged, Awarenesses subjective characterization of the participants is irrelevant, value is being created, value is being exchanged for value, and presumably both participants are getting what they want, regardless of anyone else's opinion about their character, w/respect to the nature of the negotiations, caveat emptor and all that, same as any other free market transaction.

One factor for sex workers is that they typically have to work around their clients schedules, which makes it difficult to do as a hobby - you can't work somewhere and tell your boss you gotta take off a couple hours and whip a friend of yours into shape, he's a busy man too, and right now is the only time he has in his busy schedule, you'll be back in a while.

Doesn't work that way, and as mummy guy mentioned, all that latex and shit is expensive, etc., etc., to the point that due to the laws of physics and the laws of supply and demand you have an economic niche for pro-dommes, and it really can't work any other way.

The nature of the resulting transaction is going to abide by the law of supply and demand, and the complexities of economic exchanges of value, caveat emptor.

You're a commie Awareness, lol.

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ORIGINAL: payingoinker

Thank you xssve for getting this back on track. There has been some very good dialog here and I thank all those who contributed constructively. I am sorry that this turned into a pissing contest here and was not my intentions. I guess all message boards have their share of haters and attackers. But I have a thick skin and I would love to stick around and hear more of the thoughts of those who wish to provide their insight on the topic. If you don't wish to contribute positively, but instead bash those who do, please start your on threat.

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ORIGINAL: payingoinker

Thank you xssve for getting this back on track. There has been some very good dialog here and I thank all those who contributed constructively. I am sorry that this turned into a pissing contest here and was not my intentions. I guess all message boards have their share of haters and attackers. But I have a thick skin and I would love to stick around and hear more of the thoughts of those who wish to provide their insight on the topic. If you don't wish to contribute positively, but instead bash those who do, please start your on threat.