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risktaker9 -> RE: my Master... (1/29/2012 1:17:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aikoxkitty

Well guys you dont have to worry about me being safe I guess he found someone else or was just all talk didnt hear from him at all today

but ill take your advice maybe i was just rushing things calling him master and what not

but we all learn from out mistakes

Thanks for the advice

~mew

Sigh, sorry you had a disappearing act Kitty. It happens. Good thing the guy showed what he was about early on and saved you the trouble of getting attached. Now you can move on and find someone more suited to you. If I were you, I'd say going a bit slower will save you heartache in the end and keep you safe. Nothing wrong with being cautious, no one ever really got hurt from taking things at a slower pace, however the opposite HAS hurt some people - to jump into situations where things aren't too sure.

I have to ask, is there more than one person posting as Arturas? I remember his posts as being mostly pompous blather, but he never espoused being careless or dangerous. I remember more than once that he posted about never (!) leaving someone who was bound in the room alone. Never! I mean he was all over people on a thread more than once on that point. How can he say that and then come back here now and say it's fine to follow someone home on a first meet? Seems....weird.




xssve -> RE: my Master... (1/29/2012 2:35:01 PM)

All good advice, the chances of a contact having motives any more unsavory than fucking your sweet teeny bopper brains out are small, but it only takes once to make giving some thought and energy to developing safe habits worth the effort.

This one sounds more like cold feet to me - he's probably either 44 and married or 14 and he came in his pants as soon as you agreed to meet him.




Arturas -> RE: my Master... (1/29/2012 3:00:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xssve

All good advice, the chances of a contact having motives any more unsavory than fucking your sweet teeny bopper brains out are small, but it only takes once to make giving some thought and energy to developing safe habits worth the effort.

This one sounds more like cold feet to me - he's probably either 44 and married or 14 and he came in his pants as soon as you agreed to meet him.



Exactly. Just call the license plate number in, most guys understand that and actually will suggest it, I did several times and why not? So, enjoy...step out, be brave and take that simple precaution and make sure he sees you doing it and all will be well.

... otherwise stay behind a keyboard safe and sound and years from now you will be alone still and online 24 hours giving advice to newbees like "check him out with the locals, find a mentor and follow their advice, talk to him on the phone for a few weeks, attend a munch or two with them. Yeah, that will weed out the boston stranglers, ah no, if he is dangerous he will pass all your tests cause he's too smart not to, so call him in to a friend before you leave with him, and relax and enjoy life to the fullest. Besides, if you were not brave you would not be choosing this lifestyle, correct? And, lets be honest, reality check again, meeting and leaving with men in vanilla life is no more safe than leaving with a Dom, in both situations you do the same thing, make sure someone knows who he is and that you are with him.

That last statement of yours was interesting; Do you really believe that?




slavehearttt -> RE: my Master... (1/29/2012 4:44:08 PM)

she is new and young, and thus my suggestion.




tazzygirl -> RE: my Master... (1/29/2012 11:57:14 PM)

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Exactly. Just call the license plate number in, most guys understand that and actually will suggest it, I did several times and why not? So, enjoy...step out, be brave and take that simple precaution and make sure he sees you doing it and all will be well.

... otherwise stay behind a keyboard safe and sound and years from now you will be alone still and online 24 hours giving advice to newbees like "check him out with the locals, find a mentor and follow their advice, talk to him on the phone for a few weeks, attend a munch or two with them. Yeah, that will weed out the boston stranglers, ah no, if he is dangerous he will pass all your tests cause he's too smart not to, so call him in to a friend before you leave with him, and relax and enjoy life to the fullest. Besides, if you were not brave you would not be choosing this lifestyle, correct? And, lets be honest, reality check again, meeting and leaving with men in vanilla life is no more safe than leaving with a Dom, in both situations you do the same thing, make sure someone knows who he is and that you are with him.


Man drives into town. No one there knows him. Few care. No ties to anyone. Picks up girl, she calls the tag number to her friend. Hangs up.

Then what? They go on to the hotel room and fuck like rabbits,,, or back to her place... or neither. Tag switch and a few hours later, by the time the damage is done, he is back in his home town, the stolen tag tossed, and no one is the wiser.

The difference with a man in a bar? People will know him. He has ties to that community. People saw them enter and leave. Someone else will remember.

But, hey, if you keep finding women who are as crazy as you imply... well... nuff said. [;)]




xssve -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 12:07:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: xssve

All good advice, the chances of a contact having motives any more unsavory than fucking your sweet teeny bopper brains out are small, but it only takes once to make giving some thought and energy to developing safe habits worth the effort.

This one sounds more like cold feet to me - he's probably either 44 and married or 14 and he came in his pants as soon as you agreed to meet him.



Exactly. Just call the license plate number in, most guys understand that and actually will suggest it, I did several times and why not? So, enjoy...step out, be brave and take that simple precaution and make sure he sees you doing it and all will be well.

... otherwise stay behind a keyboard safe and sound and years from now you will be alone still and online 24 hours giving advice to newbees like "check him out with the locals, find a mentor and follow their advice, talk to him on the phone for a few weeks, attend a munch or two with them. Yeah, that will weed out the boston stranglers, ah no, if he is dangerous he will pass all your tests cause he's too smart not to, so call him in to a friend before you leave with him, and relax and enjoy life to the fullest. Besides, if you were not brave you would not be choosing this lifestyle, correct? And, lets be honest, reality check again, meeting and leaving with men in vanilla life is no more safe than leaving with a Dom, in both situations you do the same thing, make sure someone knows who he is and that you are with him.

That last statement of yours was interesting; Do you really believe that?
Last thought of mine? I dunno, I don't remember thinking it now, but I do recall it did just pop into my head at that time as a possibility.

I got teenage kids and I was teenager once myself - I'd have been doing like 20 MILF's a week if we'dve had the interwebz back then. [:D]




xssve -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 12:22:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

Exactly. Just call the license plate number in, most guys understand that and actually will suggest it, I did several times and why not? So, enjoy...step out, be brave and take that simple precaution and make sure he sees you doing it and all will be well.

... otherwise stay behind a keyboard safe and sound and years from now you will be alone still and online 24 hours giving advice to newbees like "check him out with the locals, find a mentor and follow their advice, talk to him on the phone for a few weeks, attend a munch or two with them. Yeah, that will weed out the boston stranglers, ah no, if he is dangerous he will pass all your tests cause he's too smart not to, so call him in to a friend before you leave with him, and relax and enjoy life to the fullest. Besides, if you were not brave you would not be choosing this lifestyle, correct? And, lets be honest, reality check again, meeting and leaving with men in vanilla life is no more safe than leaving with a Dom, in both situations you do the same thing, make sure someone knows who he is and that you are with him.


Man drives into town. No one there knows him. Few care. No ties to anyone. Picks up girl, she calls the tag number to her friend. Hangs up.

Then what? They go on to the hotel room and fuck like rabbits,,, or back to her place... or neither. Tag switch and a few hours later, by the time the damage is done, he is back in his home town, the stolen tag tossed, and no one is the wiser.

The difference with a man in a bar? People will know him. He has ties to that community. People saw them enter and leave. Someone else will remember.

But, hey, if you keep finding women who are as crazy as you imply... well... nuff said. [;)]
Paranoid much taz? Yeah, overall it's better to know the people you're dealing with, you don't have to be quite so paranoid, although don't they say you're more likely to get raped by somebody you know? If you're not afraid of being raped, what the hell? It's an imperfect world.

Chicks a raver, not a virgin, right? Hard to say much from a profile, but I don't think she's a complete newb taz, I think she's just looking to expand her horizons.

Anyway, don't get in a rush, take it at your own speed, lay some on that pimply geek you work with, might be surprised.






tazzygirl -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 12:27:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: xssve

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

Exactly. Just call the license plate number in, most guys understand that and actually will suggest it, I did several times and why not? So, enjoy...step out, be brave and take that simple precaution and make sure he sees you doing it and all will be well.

... otherwise stay behind a keyboard safe and sound and years from now you will be alone still and online 24 hours giving advice to newbees like "check him out with the locals, find a mentor and follow their advice, talk to him on the phone for a few weeks, attend a munch or two with them. Yeah, that will weed out the boston stranglers, ah no, if he is dangerous he will pass all your tests cause he's too smart not to, so call him in to a friend before you leave with him, and relax and enjoy life to the fullest. Besides, if you were not brave you would not be choosing this lifestyle, correct? And, lets be honest, reality check again, meeting and leaving with men in vanilla life is no more safe than leaving with a Dom, in both situations you do the same thing, make sure someone knows who he is and that you are with him.


Man drives into town. No one there knows him. Few care. No ties to anyone. Picks up girl, she calls the tag number to her friend. Hangs up.

Then what? They go on to the hotel room and fuck like rabbits,,, or back to her place... or neither. Tag switch and a few hours later, by the time the damage is done, he is back in his home town, the stolen tag tossed, and no one is the wiser.

The difference with a man in a bar? People will know him. He has ties to that community. People saw them enter and leave. Someone else will remember.

But, hey, if you keep finding women who are as crazy as you imply... well... nuff said. [;)]


Paranoid much taz? Yeah, overall it's better to know the people you're dealing with, you don't have to be quite so paranoid, although don't they say you're more likely to get raped by somebody you know? If you're not afraid of being raped, what the hell? It's an imperfect world.

Chicks a raver, not a virgin, right? Hard to say much from a profile, but I don't think she's a complete newb taz, I think she's just looking to expand her horizons.

Anyway, don't get in a rush, take it at your own speed, lay some on that pimply geek you work with, might be surprised.





LOL.. yup... I am "paranoid" and it has kept me alive, thank you very much. The one time I didnt listen to my "paranoia" I ended up a thousand miles away from anyone I knew and was beaten daily.

Her sexual status doesnt have anything to do with any of this. I have no clue why that would, or should, make a difference.

Now, take into account the Slavemaster killings... Im sure you will have to look that up.. along with a few stories in the BDSM in the news section.. and Im sure you can see more opportunities to dismiss women.

But go ahead and continue to make fun.




LaTigresse -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 4:02:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: risktaker9

I have to ask, is there more than one person posting as Arturas?

I remember his posts as being mostly pompous blather,

Seems....weird.



Yes

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poise -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 4:23:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas
My post reflects the real world.

That would be a first. Unfortunately, you are neither a submissive female, and hopefully, not a sexual predator either.
What the internet has done is make it much easier for those men who have ill intent to find a woman who is young and
inexperienced, thus more vulnerable to being manipulated into doing stupid things.

You make it sound as though being a woman who takes extra precautions is a bad thing, and that any sensible
dominant would walk away from the opportunity to meet on her terms. Is that your experience?




kalikshama -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 4:54:11 AM)

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My advice is based on real world experience with submissives and even in vanilla meetings and knowing people in the local community and how things really work.


To extrapolate that because a woman would be safe with YOU that she would be safe with all men is nonsense. YOU may not be a predator, but they do exist.

A potential Dom once got angry with me because I would not give him my home address prior to our meeting. He gave me his last name and told me to Google him. Well, being a little more sophisticated than that, I looked him up in our Clerk of Courts database and found two domestic violence charges, two different women, 12 years apart. I'd already been noticing his temper (and this before we even met) so no way in hell was I going to let him know where I lived after that. Needless to say, we didn't meet.




kalikshama -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 4:59:34 AM)

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... otherwise stay behind a keyboard safe and sound and years from now you will be alone still and online 24 hours giving advice to newbees


I wonder why I bothered getting out of bed this AM to make coffee for my imaginary friend [8|]




kalikshama -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 5:09:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aikoxkitty

Well guys you dont have to worry about me being safe I guess he found someone else or was just all talk didnt hear from him at all today

but ill take your advice maybe i was just rushing things calling him master and what not

but we all learn from our mistakes

Thanks for the advice

~mew


Sorry it didn't work out - better luck next time.

I was in a bit of sub frenzy when I joined the site, made a few mistakes, but did hook up with some incredibly talented sadists. Then I started feeling sad when driving home after a scene and realized I was ready for Relationship Guy with whom I could spend the night.

I started looking for men with well rounded profiles with extra points to men who also had profiles on vanilla sites. I slowed things down a bit. While I think M and I still would have ended up together had we shagged right away, the truth is that most men do not see women as relationship material if they put out immediately - they like to chase. Yes, there are exceptions - I was married to one for 18 years and am living with one now. But I think my earlier tornado analogy is apt.




amaidiamond -> RE: my Master... (1/30/2012 5:21:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

... otherwise stay behind a keyboard safe and sound and years from now you will be alone still and online 24 hours giving advice to newbees


I wonder why I bothered getting out of bed this AM to make coffee for my imaginary friend [8|]


Most likely the same reason I make coffee for my imaginary Sadist type.

You know, for an imaginary D/s relationship it sure leaves owwie spots!




xssve -> RE: my Master... (1/31/2012 4:59:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL.. yup... I am "paranoid" and it has kept me alive, thank you very much. The one time I didnt listen to my "paranoia" I ended up a thousand miles away from anyone I knew and was beaten daily.

Her sexual status doesnt have anything to do with any of this. I have no clue why that would, or should, make a difference.

Now, take into account the Slavemaster killings... Im sure you will have to look that up.. along with a few stories in the BDSM in the news section.. and Im sure you can see more opportunities to dismiss women.

But go ahead and continue to make fun.

I'm not making fun, I already told her to play it safe. From her post she was meeting him in a public place which is a good idea, I'm not saying you shouldn't take precautions, it only takes once, but the chances are still better of being attacked by somebody you know.

But, meeting strangers can only increase the risk, the law of averages applies, and I think a safe call set up for a specified intervals is your best bet against something like you're saying, like one after 2 hours, another the next day or something, just to check in, if you have a friend like that.

You know after something happens, I can see why you might get all 007 about it, but how many precautions can you reasonably take?

Be aware of your surroundings and know where the soft spots are.




xssve -> RE: my Master... (1/31/2012 5:06:18 PM)

Hell, everybody has cell phone cameras now, take a picture of him and send it to your mother.




xssve -> RE: my Master... (1/31/2012 5:11:46 PM)

All I'm saying is that there probably upwards of a million people hookin' even as we speak and only a couple slavemasters - it is worth taking reasonable precautions for that eventuality, but guys like that, they know all the tricks too - short of having your own personal SWAT team, if somebody's that determined, they're gonna get to you.

Best thing you can do is increase their chances of getting caught if they do, a cell phone pic would go a long way towards that, it would make even a hardened human trafficker think twice, they usually go for the easy pickings.




nashsub4fun -> RE: my Master... (2/22/2012 5:11:52 AM)

quote:

Baroana


I have to agree with Baroana - she's right on target.

The only thing I can add is: WTF! Are you stupid or have no regard for your personal safety? You NEVER....i repeat NEVER....get into the car with a stranger!!!!! Always meet in a public place the first couple of time. There are alot of wanna-bes out there; some are great at the art of deception and can suck you into blindly trusting them. He needs to earn your trust and respect before you give it.




DarkSteven -> RE: my Master... (2/22/2012 5:32:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

My advice is based on real world experience with submissives and even in vanilla meetings and knowing people in the local community and how things really work.


To extrapolate that because a woman would be safe with YOU that she would be safe with all men is nonsense. YOU may not be a predator, but they do exist.

A potential Dom once got angry with me because I would not give him my home address prior to our meeting. He gave me his last name and told me to Google him. Well, being a little more sophisticated than that, I looked him up in our Clerk of Courts database and found two domestic violence charges, two different women, 12 years apart. I'd already been noticing his temper (and this before we even met) so no way in hell was I going to let him know where I lived after that. Needless to say, we didn't meet.


Simple question, kalikshama - why did you bother? I would have expected you to run due to his temper even before you checked him out with the database. Or was that simply confirmation of what you already knew?




kalikshama -> RE: my Master... (2/22/2012 6:21:03 AM)

At that time I needed to confirm red flags. Since my second experience of virtually meeting another guy with another two domestic violence convictions, just getting that bad feeling in my gut is enough for me to call it off.




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