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Sanity -> Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 5:49:10 PM)
Typical example: A lovely article about quote: Snowy owls soar south from Arctic in rare mass migration Is filled with mindless far-left propaganda Question is, who can spot the major inconsistency... [;)]

Lucylastic -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 5:55:04 PM)
yeah this has fuck all to do with politics

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:10:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Typical example: A lovely article about quote: Snowy owls soar south from Arctic in rare mass migration Is filled with mindless far-left propaganda Question is, who can spot the major inconsistency... [;)] An especially plentiful supply of lemmings last season likely led to a population boom among owls that resulted in each breeding pair hatching as many as seven offspring. That compares to a typical clutch size of no more than two, Holt said. Greater competition this year for food in the Far North by the booming bird population may have then driven mostly younger, male owls much farther south than normal. ... He said snowy owl populations are believed to be in an overall decline, possibly because a changing climate has lessened the abundance of vegetation like grasses that lemmings rely on Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:11:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic yeah this has fuck all to do with politics It is political to the core. Firm

Hillwilliam -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:16:27 PM)
If anyone posting knew fuck-all about population biology, (long and short term fluctuations) it would make a lot more sense to you. Not to mention, what the fuck has anything to do with 'reeducation camps'? The ignorance is thick enough to cut sith a knife.

Lucylastic -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:21:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic yeah this has fuck all to do with politics It is political to the core. Firm of course it is..[8\|]. its nature to the core, making it "left right is beyond pitiful. Nature before political, but carry on Sinking into oblivion rapidly well done

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:23:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam If anyone posting knew fuck-all about population biology, (loong and short tern fluctuations) it would make a lot more sense to you. Perhaps I know more than you realize, Hill. Doesn't invalidate the observation. Bottom line, an interesting article with a propaganda spin: He said snowy owl populations are believed to be in an overall decline, possibly because a changing climate has lessened the abundance of vegetation like grasses that lemmings rely on. This winter's snowy owl outbreak, with multiple sightings as far south as Oklahoma, remains largely a mystery of nature. "There's a lot of speculation. As far as hard evidence, we really don't know," Holt said. And if Holt, a researcher who has spent two decades in the Arctic studying the owls "doesn't know" and calls it "speculation", then, why does his words, and the end of the article lead the gentle reader to conclude that "global warming" or "AGW" or "Climate Change" or whatever it is called today a factor in this? Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:26:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam If anyone posting knew fuck-all about population biology, (long and short term fluctuations) it would make a lot more sense to you. Not to mention, what the fuck has anything to do with 'reeducation camps'? The ignorance is thick enough to cut sith a knife. It is. But not on Sanity's part, I don't think. His title is in relation to the fact that the article (and the Reuters News Service) is engaging in propaganda, and is part of the indoctrination process of the "left" in getting their ideas accepted. Not based on facts, but on "feelings". Re-education, in a totalitarian sense. It makes sense. You don't have to agree, but it is a logical observation, if you understand the historical use of the term. Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:29:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic yeah this has fuck all to do with politics It is political to the core. of course it is..[8\|]. its nature to the core, making it "left right is beyond pitiful. Nature before political, but carry on Sinking into oblivion rapidly well done Well, alrighty then! I can then hopefully assume we won't see you post in the thread any more? [8D] Firm

Lucylastic -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:29:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam If anyone posting knew fuck-all about population biology, (long and short term fluctuations) it would make a lot more sense to you. Not to mention, what the fuck has anything to do with 'reeducation camps'? The ignorance is thick enough to cut sith a knife. LMAO putting this on NOT the subject but the subtext? theres no way the OP got that by himself

DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:32:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic yeah this has fuck all to do with politics It is political to the core. Firm Hell, everything is to you Radicals. [sm=AttentionWhore.gif]

Lucylastic -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:35:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic yeah this has fuck all to do with politics It is political to the core. of course it is..[8\|]. its nature to the core, making it "left right is beyond pitiful. Nature before political, but carry on Sinking into oblivion rapidly well done Well, alrighty then! I can then hopefully assume we won't see you post in the thread any more? [8D] Firm hope on Ive got news for you and its all bad.. The thread info is misleading at best. the attempt to make it into a re education camp attempt, pathetic but par for the course.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:36:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam If anyone posting knew fuck-all about population biology, (loong and short tern fluctuations) it would make a lot more sense to you. Perhaps I know more than you realize, Hill. Doesn't invalidate the observation. Bottom line, an interesting article with a propaganda spin: He said snowy owl populations are believed to be in an overall decline, possibly because a changing climate has lessened the abundance of vegetation like grasses that lemmings rely on. This winter's snowy owl outbreak, with multiple sightings as far south as Oklahoma, remains largely a mystery of nature. "There's a lot of speculation. As far as hard evidence, we really don't know," Holt said. And if Holt, a researcher who has spent two decades in the Arctic studying the owls "doesn't know" and calls it "speculation", then, why does his words, and the end of the article lead the gentle reader to conclude that "global warming" or "AGW" or "Climate Change" or whatever it is called today a factor in this? Firm Unless you read a different article, there was no "Global Warming". There was no "AGW" mentioned at all. There was only "Changing climate. Well noone, not even the oil company execs, has claimed that it isn't changing. Those who have studied population dynamics are familiar with the ebb and flow of populations of small herbivores realize that they run in cycles. Predators run in cycles that follow them closely. It's called "Boom and bust". The classic example which was first documented in the early 20th century or before was that of the snowshoe hare and the canadian lynx. Bottom line is this article only presents the fact that lemmings had, for whatever reason, a boom year. Snowy owls followed them closely as per the model and now the juvenile owls are having to go far afield to feed themselves and some are starving as has been documented for well over a century of predator/prey population biology to the point where it is accepted at the grade school level. Unfortunately, the OP seems to see a liberal behind every tree and seems to have not gotten that far in his studies.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:43:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam If anyone posting knew fuck-all about population biology, (loong and short tern fluctuations) it would make a lot more sense to you. Perhaps I know more than you realize, Hill. Doesn't invalidate the observation. Bottom line, an interesting article with a propaganda spin: He said snowy owl populations are believed to be in an overall decline, possibly because a changing climate has lessened the abundance of vegetation like grasses that lemmings rely on. This winter's snowy owl outbreak, with multiple sightings as far south as Oklahoma, remains largely a mystery of nature. "There's a lot of speculation. As far as hard evidence, we really don't know," Holt said. And if Holt, a researcher who has spent two decades in the Arctic studying the owls "doesn't know" and calls it "speculation", then, why does his words, and the end of the article lead the gentle reader to conclude that "global warming" or "AGW" or "Climate Change" or whatever it is called today a factor in this? Firm Unless you read a different article, there was no "Global Warming". There was no "AGW" mentioned at all. There was only "Changing climate. Well noone, not even the oil company execs, has claimed that it isn't changing. Those who have studied population dynamics are familiar with the ebb and flow of populations of small herbivores realize that they run in cycles. Predators run in cycles that follow them closely. It's called "Boom and bust". The classic example which was first documented in the early 20th century or before was that of the snowshoe hare and the canadian lynx. Bottom line is this article only presents the fact that lemmings had, for whatever reason, a boom year. Snowy owls followed them closely as per the model and now the juvenile owls are having to go far afield to feed themselves and some are starving as has been documented for well over a century of predator/prey population biology to the point where it is accepted at the grade school level. Unfortunately, the OP seems to see a liberal behind every tree and seems to have not gotten that far in his studies. So what's causing this changing climate, Hill? Firm

Hillwilliam -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:43:59 PM)
Again. NOWHERE does the article say "Global Warming" NOWHERE does it say anything manmade caused it. It simply says things are changing and this is the response and it makes it clear to say ("There's a lot of speculation. As far as hard evidence, we really don't know," Holt said.) Again. Some people see a liberal behind every tree. I see overreactive dumbasses.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:46:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Again. NOWHERE does the article say "Global Warming" NOWHERE does it say anything manmade caused it. It simply says things are changing and this is the response and it makes it clear to say ("There's a lot of speculation. As far as hard evidence, we really don't know," Holt said.) Again. Some people see a liberal behind every tree. I see overreactive dumbasses. Thanks. I don't think you had ever called me a dumb ass before. [:(] So, if you ask the majority of the general citizens of the West, what is causing a changing climate, what is the answer you are most likely to get? Firm

Hillwilliam -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:47:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY So what's causing this changing climate, Hill? Firm Neither nor the article is making any claim on that. Ive made clear my theory on the age of oil. It's too important to burn. If we took a fraction of the money that Newt wants to spend on a moon base and spent it on a crash program to develop hydro/solar/wind/fusion/geothermal energy, we would create thousands of American jobs. We would have enough oil for industrial processes to last millenia and the Arabs could go back to eating fucking dirt and rocks.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:49:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Again. NOWHERE does the article say "Global Warming" NOWHERE does it say anything manmade caused it. It simply says things are changing and this is the response and it makes it clear to say ("There's a lot of speculation. As far as hard evidence, we really don't know," Holt said.) Again. Some people see a liberal behind every tree. I see overreactive dumbasses. Thanks. I don't think you had ever called me a dumb ass before. [:(] So, if you ask the majority of the general citizens of the West, what is causing a changing climate, what is the answer you are most likely to get? Firm The ones who listen to FOX would say it isnt changing because that's what they were told to say and they don't know any better. As for "dumbass", I was referring to someone else posting here.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 6:55:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY So what's causing this changing climate, Hill? Neither nor the article is making any claim on that. You are correct. It's simply reinforcing a point. That's what a good propaganda campaign does. quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Ive made clear my theory on the age of oil. But see, you know exactly what most every general citizen will say is the cause of "changing climate". Oil! Coal! Man's evil use of carbon sources for fuel. That's how propaganda works Hill. Trust me on this. [8D] I am actually a fully qualified "propagandist". The US government trained me, and bestowed the appropriate awards and decorations to prove it. I was one of the first two "official" propagandists that the US government ever trained, a couple of years after Reagan revitalized the concept. quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam It's too important to burn. If we took a fraction of the money that Newt wants to spend on a moon base and spent it on a crash program to develop hydro/solar/wind/fusion/geothermal energy, we would create thousands of American jobs. We would have enough oil for industrial processes to last millenia and the Arabs could go back to eating fucking dirt and rocks. ... and now we get to the politics ... [:D] Firm

Hillwilliam -> RE: Reuters Reeducation Kamp (1/28/2012 7:05:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY So what's causing this changing climate, Hill? Neither nor the article is making any claim on that. You are correct. It's simply reinforcing a point. That's what a good propaganda campaign does. quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Ive made clear my theory on the age of oil. But see, you know exactly what most every general citizen will say is the cause of "changing climate". Oil! Coal! Man's evil use of carbon sources for fuel. That's how propaganda works Hill. Trust me on this. [8D] I am actually a fully qualified "propagandist". The US government trained me, and bestowed the appropriate awards and decorations to prove it. I was one of the first two "official" propagandists that the US government ever trained, a couple of years after Reagan revitalized the concept. quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam It's too important to burn. If we took a fraction of the money that Newt wants to spend on a moon base and spent it on a crash program to develop hydro/solar/wind/fusion/geothermal energy, we would create thousands of American jobs. We would have enough oil for industrial processes to last millenia and the Arabs could go back to eating fucking dirt and rocks. ... and now we get to the politics ... [:D] Firm Maybe I'm just one of those wierd non FOX or MSLSD watching people that makes up my own mind who actually has a degree in biology. (grad work as well). Am I propaganda proof? Nope. I just don't swallow the crap as readily as most. As for my assertion that oil is finite and important to our industrial survival, will you dispute that? Will you also dispute that if we were able to become independent of OPEC things would be a lot more prosperous in this country? OPEC is right now performing serious CBT on the American public. We can drill our brains out and be free of their shackles for a few decades or we can become independent of petroleum based energy and be free of them forever. Propaganda isn't just a left wing practice. Believe it or not, the Right does it as well and there's a lot of folk here who swallow it as readily as a 5# brown eating one of my cone-head olive wooly buggers. My last statement wasnt about politics. It was simply about maintaining our civilization and industrial base as we presently know it. No petroleum = no civilization. Edited because I can't frickin type for squat.

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