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Kana -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/18/2012 1:43:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessTastie

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

... the pay pig thing... it really does seem that the person gets absolutely nothing in return...


Not even a tax write off as a charitable contribution.


Actually it can be a tax write off as long as you claim it as an uncollectable business loan that was defaulted on. Which is great for anything over 10,000 which the irs loves to red flag..keeps both parties out of audit troubles if written up properly. Even jackpots at the casinos that your piggies fund can be tax free. Bad debts pay piggies and 6 inch stilettos


So in other words, commit fraud?
And in an area that the IRS specifically red flags?
That's not exactly a wise course of action.



GoddessTastie -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/23/2012 2:23:19 PM)

Its not fraud if the borrower never pays it back... hence being uncollectable. I know IRS employees current and past and the rules are still applicable. It happens all the time in the corporate world as well. I file my business taxes every year documented everything  properly and have never been flagged or audited.



SaintAllie -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/24/2012 5:06:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml


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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond
For example "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd  allow someone else to control what they wear / allow someone to decide when they go to the bathroom / ask for someone to beat them black and blue" (Please note, not my opinion used as an example)

I don't think that any fetish makes someone weak, pathetic etc. Sure theres many that don't float my boat but I don't think it is the act itself that defines what the person is.

Make any sense?


Yes, it does... but but,.. in all of the examples you cite there is at least a relationship... it seems to me that the paypig relationship is... pretty much non-existant?

(I don't know if that makes any sense?)



buying milk for your coffee daily, is a relationship in one sense isn't it?

and others that dont drink coffee at all, would that be a fetish for some?

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crazyml -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/25/2012 1:25:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SaintAllie
buying milk for your coffee daily, is a relationship in one sense isn't it?


At a stretch, perhaps, in one sense.

But not in a sense that is remotely connected to the o/p ;-)

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and others that dont drink coffee at all, would that be a fetish for some?

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Nope... I have no idea what point you're trying to make here.

That isn't to say that I don't think you have a point to make... I just can't divine it.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/25/2012 9:46:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Folks,

One of the great things about this side of the site is that it's resulted in my prejudices being challenged and my mind opened on a number of occasions.

I'm willing to admit that I carry a lot of preconceptions and prejudices (let's face it, who can help that), but I do try to remain open to those prejudices being called on, and I'm committed to growing as a human being.

I've always shuddered at the concept of the "Pay pig". It bothers me more than a lot of other things. At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?

C'mon team, open my mind!


Ya know....that's one aspect of the whole kink world I just don't fucking get but.....

I also know there are more than multiple people that don't get mine.

I'm all good with the fact that chics don't understand that I like to be surrounded by fur, and then have 3 or more milk men delivering daily supplies while I'm tied up at the front door in cuffs, knowing my Mom and an IRS agent will be by shortly.

(But that's just me).



Casteele -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/25/2012 10:40:54 PM)

With the availability of so much free porn out there, I don't get why anyone would join a pay site, either (or if no one does anymore, why someone would throw away so much money trying to set one up anymore). But hey, people do what people do.



BossMaggie -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/27/2012 10:17:30 AM)

I actually love this post. There needs to be an exchange of power for it to be a satisfying experience. If someone offered me money, before I could even have a chance to get in his head, I would refuse it. Ripping your sense of security, sense of self and sense of control is a skill and can't be faked. Not for long anyway.



malemaid4BBW -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (2/27/2012 3:27:52 PM)

In a way I see them more as realists than pathetic losers. Admittedly I personally don't see any gratification in being a pay pig, but then who am I to judge how others get their pleasures.
When I say I see them as realists its because I think they've realized that within the world of d/s you either pay or go unfulfilled. In reality a the odds of a submissive man meeting a real life dominant are about the same as him winning the lottery because in reality there just aren't enough to go round. Sites like this also feed the myth by allowing obvious Pro Dommes to run profiles that make them sound like genuine dominant women looking for a relationship, when in reality they are just Pro's looking for paying customers.

So looking at it logically the pay pig is just another customer, but one who gets less for his money than one visiting a Pro Domme. Pro Dommes fill a need, and so do financial Dommes, and what you might call pig farmers. However the thing to remember is that fetish lifestyles are about fantasy andescapism, and bare little resemblance to reality. (Mine certainly don't ),Whether the lifestyle would be better off without the Pro's? I have no idea, but i do know that if you took all the Pro's of one kind of another off sites like this, there wouldn't be many Dommes left.  



crysataldorian -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (3/2/2012 4:07:02 PM)

I have to say I felt the same way especially how a lot Dommes talk of sub or slave men as completely incapable mindless pathetic losers.... I that covers most... anyway after an email exchange with such a Domme I was wondering and did ask is this "pay piggie" thing for real. To my pleasant surprise she was very down to earth and mature Domme.

As she revealed to me that there are many men whom are turned on by this as in any other fetish. To some extent I do believe this because lets face it there are plenty of pathetic losers on this site who could not get any attention any other way besides throwing tons of cash at women.

The Dommes on this site that are up front in the beginning about their desire for a PP are not an issue or Dommes who are up front about being professional Dommes again really no issue.

Its the other masses of Dommes that list their interests that have nothing to say about money though when they are contacted its either FU pay me or sent me cash so I know you're sincere. This is most aggravating because for those who are not fakes or players it gets old fast.

The second being the non-pro that only want a tribute? And I ask why? Because its the shallow minded losers you want to attract because they may think they are the only attractive Domme around? Pls..



TNDommeK -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (3/3/2012 5:14:03 PM)

after reading your post, then briefly scanning some of the responses, I answer with this: I am a fin Domme, and have slaves that cater to Me. I do feel they get something in return, and so do they. They get My time and attention. for instance, one slave, who is local to Me here in Memphis, gets to spend the day with Me while taking Me shopping, to dinner etc. I dont care how bad one hates the pro/fin side of things, that beats sitting at home and doing nothing and being alone. Speaking only for Myself, when I use the term worthless when referring to a pay pig, its because he has yet to show his worth to Me. Im sure the majority of ppl on this site know the amount of male slaves who hunt wank material, therefor most that I encounter are time wasters..thus the term "worthless". There are a select few who have broken that barrier and proven that there is life on this site. now, there are those 19 yr old so called fin dommes who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground...there in no excuse for them.lol. but hopefully this answered a bit of your questions, being that it comes from a fin Domme source.



MrBukani -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (3/3/2012 5:19:53 PM)

Guess I am a Blow Dom Cause I wanna get sucked most of the time.[:D]



TNDommeK -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (3/3/2012 5:34:47 PM)

ok went back and read most of this thread, LITHIUM you are awesome, love your posts. I have seen a few of duckies journals in the past and it does seem like he is quite lonely and pathetic.
shame but hilarious at the same time. duck face. LOL






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