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crazyml -> Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:16:03 PM)

Folks,

One of the great things about this side of the site is that it's resulted in my prejudices being challenged and my mind opened on a number of occasions.

I'm willing to admit that I carry a lot of preconceptions and prejudices (let's face it, who can help that), but I do try to remain open to those prejudices being called on, and I'm committed to growing as a human being.

I've always shuddered at the concept of the "Pay pig". It bothers me more than a lot of other things. At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?

C'mon team, open my mind!




lostinmyownmind -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:17:57 PM)

They are if they think themselves so and can find someone that agrees with them.




subcurious12 -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:21:23 PM)

Ok, I'm awful but when I read the title of your post I thought you were referring to the user who's been posting two word 'questions' on the forum.....*hangs head in shame*

In response to your actual question, I have no idea and will be curious to see if anyone offers a first-hand perspective.




searching4mysir -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:22:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

I've always shuddered at the concept of the "Pay pig". It bothers me more than a lot of other things. At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?



Are they really getting absolutely nothing? Is there no humiliation in it? Is there no sense of loss of control?

I'm neither a findom or a finslave, but I'm not sure I see there being no exchange.




cuckold37 -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:22:35 PM)

a guy whose wife has a lover.a guy who gets no sex.a lonely guy hoping in time to buy a lovers interest.the list of reasons is quite long.




crazyml -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:23:24 PM)

Crap... I can see what you're doing there!




amaidiamond -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:23:29 PM)

quote:

At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?


Hmmm I do not know any fin-subs but couldn't those words be said of a lot of BDSM practices?

For example "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd  allow someone else to control what they wear / allow someone to decide when they go to the bathroom / ask for someone to beat them black and blue" (Please note, not my opinion used as an example)

I don't think that any fetish makes someone weak, pathetic etc. Sure theres many that don't float my boat but I don't think it is the act itself that defines what the person is.

Make any sense?







payingoinker -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:24:33 PM)

I could ask the same thing about the shit eaters, the pain junkies, foot kissers, etc


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

Folks,

One of the great things about this side of the site is that it's resulted in my prejudices being challenged and my mind opened on a number of occasions.

I'm willing to admit that I carry a lot of preconceptions and prejudices (let's face it, who can help that), but I do try to remain open to those prejudices being called on, and I'm committed to growing as a human being.

I've always shuddered at the concept of the "Pay pig". It bothers me more than a lot of other things. At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?

C'mon team, open my mind!

quote:

olks,

One of the great things about this side of the site is that it's resulted in my prejudices being challenged and my mind opened on a number of occasions.

I'm willing to admit that I carry a lot of preconceptions and prejudices (let's face it, who can help that), but I do try to remain open to those prejudices being called on, and I'm committed to growing as a human being.

I've always shuddered at the concept of the "Pay pig". It bothers me more than a lot of other things. At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?

C'mon team, open my mind!




crazyml -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:25:11 PM)

Oh I understand that many people have a humiliation kink, and I can understand (albeit that it's not my cup of hippo) the valuable role that ProDommes serve, but the pay pig thing... it really does seem that the person gets absolutely nothing in return...




Ninebelowzero -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:25:45 PM)

No Mel, just the ones who are so socially inept that they can't even interact with a Pro Domme successfully & then come on here stirring the shit about Fin Doms & Pro Dommes. who in fact are in my experience some of the finest funniest people I have had the pleasure to be with.




amaidiamond -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:27:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

Oh I understand that many people have a humiliation kink, and I can understand (albeit that it's not my cup of hippo) the valuable role that ProDommes serve, but the pay pig thing... it really does seem that the person gets absolutely nothing in return...


Maybe thats it? Maybe it's the thing of being a "walking wallet" the objectification about only being good to give money?




payingoinker -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:27:46 PM)

;)




crazyml -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:28:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: amaidiamond
For example "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd  allow someone else to control what they wear / allow someone to decide when they go to the bathroom / ask for someone to beat them black and blue" (Please note, not my opinion used as an example)

I don't think that any fetish makes someone weak, pathetic etc. Sure theres many that don't float my boat but I don't think it is the act itself that defines what the person is.

Make any sense?


Yes, it does... but but,.. in all of the examples you cite there is at least a relationship... it seems to me that the paypig relationship is... pretty much non-existant?

(I don't know if that makes any sense?)




payingoinker -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:28:52 PM)

aaaawww sorry, are you one of the high and mighty shit eaters? lol

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

No Mel, just the ones who are so socially inept that they can't even interact with a Pro Domme successfully & then come on here stirring the shit about Fin Doms & Pro Dommes. who in fact are in my experience some of the finest funniest people I have had the pleasure to be with.





subcurious12 -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:31:30 PM)

Well, in the vanilla world I get propositioned by married men fairly frequently (it's like I have a sign on my forehead or something argh). Among these gems, one of the more common tales of woe is that their wives look at them as 'a paycheck' and nothing more. Perhaps some men have fetishized this feeling and get pleasure from it. In a way, I could see how the traditional male role as a provider could translate into such a desire...sort of kinda maybe?




DominantHunger -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:31:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml
At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?


I don't get it either - except I think you summed up their kink in that sentence. Is that what you were looking to understand? I just throw it in the pile of not-my-kinks, so I am curious if an actual pay pig wants to provide an alternate explanation.




crazyml -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:33:10 PM)

That's definitely worth a ponder.




Ninebelowzero -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:33:45 PM)

Not mah kink sonny. That's for the pay piggies.




crazyml -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:34:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: payingoinker

I could ask the same thing about the shit eaters, the pain junkies, foot kissers, etc


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

Folks,

One of the great things about this side of the site is that it's resulted in my prejudices being challenged and my mind opened on a number of occasions.

I'm willing to admit that I carry a lot of preconceptions and prejudices (let's face it, who can help that), but I do try to remain open to those prejudices being called on, and I'm committed to growing as a human being.

I've always shuddered at the concept of the "Pay pig". It bothers me more than a lot of other things. At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?

C'mon team, open my mind!

quote:

olks,

One of the great things about this side of the site is that it's resulted in my prejudices being challenged and my mind opened on a number of occasions.

I'm willing to admit that I carry a lot of preconceptions and prejudices (let's face it, who can help that), but I do try to remain open to those prejudices being called on, and I'm committed to growing as a human being.

I've always shuddered at the concept of the "Pay pig". It bothers me more than a lot of other things. At the heart of it is the question "who the fuck would be that stupid, that weak, that pathetic that they'd hand over money to a complete stranger in return for absolutely nothing?

C'mon team, open my mind!




If you move quickly, you'll just have time to fix the screw-up with the quoting in that post, man.

Fuck, I'd hate people to think you were a buffoon!




Yachtie -> RE: Are all "Pay Pigs" just desperate little losers? (1/29/2012 1:34:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

... the pay pig thing... it really does seem that the person gets absolutely nothing in return...


Not even a tax write off as a charitable contribution.




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