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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 6:50:03 PM

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I am not going to lie. This concept confuses me. I am currently considering a slave who is into pet play. I have zero experience with this. I have been reading and looking but I cannot for the life of me understand. Is it just the humiliation of being treated as sub-human? Or is there a deeper thought here? A darker side that I simply do not see because I have not encountered this before?

I have never done pet play before. But I have gone to several dog/cat shows at Black Rose. The "owners" took their "pets" through a obstacle course and showed off their training. It was a lot of fun to watch and the "pets" seemed to love all the attention they got.

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 9:43:01 PM

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OP, leave your vanilla friend's kink side alone. Did she happen to ask you to butt in and see what kinds of kink you could talk her into? Did you nag her until she finally did something to hush you up? Believe it or not, if she wants to do her cat thing, she will. In her own time.

It puzzles Me beyond belief why some kinky folks can't deal with the idea that other people just maybe really are flipping vanilla. How would you like it if people were trying to change you?

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I love trolls. I love trolling. I know how to deal with them. She is not insane for wanting this. How can any in this Lifestyle pass judgement? Hell, the idea of scat sickens me but some people are into that and it is their choice. I am not going to be a complete fucktard to them. NS is just an

Actually, he's not trolling. If he was, he probably would have gone for the easy shot and asked you if the gal cat that you're 'considering' (that you admit you don't understand because you don't grasp the concept) is somebody that you've met on the site in your eleven days of membership.

By the way, calling someone a troll is judging that person just as much as when someone judges a kink. It would seem to Me that the comment was just some judgment with a serving of hypocritical on the side.

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 9:57:01 PM

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Speaking from my own experience asr my Mistress's puppygirl it's very like the "little" aspect for me. Mistress can't process my "little" aspect, she doesn't really understand it and it squicks her a bit. However she can love a puppygirl in a way that's similar enough to give me the same sense of safety and belonging that being "little" would give to me. But as petplay it doesn't got very deep. It's more that parts of my personality are dog like, loyalty, exciteable, prone to wagging my tail when I'm happy (what Mistress calls it when my bum starts going from side to side, I usually don't even realise I'm doing it), and I often growl when I'm peeved off or whimper when I'm in pain. So Mistress acknowledges those aspects, scritches my ears, calls me her puppy, tells me when I've been a good puppy, The largest moment was when she gave me a beautiful tail she found for my xmas present a few years ago. I can't wear it often because of my health, but it's my second most treasured possession after my collar.

I guess it's just small moments of embracing my inner puppy, as GT would put it, for me. It's still petplay, at least for us, but play tailored to our dynamic, and it makes me very happy.

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 9:57:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

OP, leave your vanilla friend's kink side alone. Did she happen to ask you to butt in and see what kinds of kink you could talk her into? Did you nag her until she finally did something to hush you up? Believe it or not, if she wants to do her cat thing, she will. In her own time.

It puzzles Me beyond belief why some kinky folks can't deal with the idea that other people just maybe really are flipping vanilla. How would you like it if people were trying to change you?

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ORIGINAL: ghostraven

I love trolls. I love trolling. I know how to deal with them. She is not insane for wanting this. How can any in this Lifestyle pass judgement? Hell, the idea of scat sickens me but some people are into that and it is their choice. I am not going to be a complete fucktard to them. NS is just an

Actually, he's not trolling. If he was, he probably would have gone for the easy shot and asked you if the gal cat that you're 'considering' (that you admit you don't understand because you don't grasp the concept) is somebody that you've met on the site in your eleven days of membership.

By the way, calling someone a troll is judging that person just as much as when someone judges a kink. It would seem to Me that the comment was just some judgment with a serving of hypocritical on the side.

Actually she told me she wanted to explore her kinky side and I know the girl from real life, because she is my ex(now my fwb), and I'm just going to ignore what you said about trolling because I can't tell if you are serious. If I read it right your defending nocturnal as not being a troll. I hope you have a good day :)

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 10:44:16 PM

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Ok, so rather than introduce her to other folks who enjoy pet play, you're going to help her "explore" and in the meantime, she's going to provide you with oral sex. The next time there is a thread where some male Dom comes along and gives the "mentoring" song and dance so he can get his rocks off, this thread is going to be brought back somewhere around page four of his roasting.

Nice ethics.

Whether NS is trolling is entirely immaterial. He was even half way nice about it when you were complaining about how the Mods were being lenient on him. I guess the Mods are being easy on Me, too, for not pulling My post that's also perfectly well within TOS.

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 10:54:57 PM

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Im Kitten, Its not just my name... its part of my core personality..

I act like a cat more often then not, its part of my mannerisms.

to help your "friend" understand, have her get in touch with other people into pet play, unless your into it its really hard to understand from the outside looking in, its hard to understand why someone would prefer to do something in a particular way.

Its like with any other Kink. unless you do it its hard to understand why or the motivation

Its not about humiliation or being sub human, in fact most who know me would consider me sup human.... because Im a rather interesting person..

I dont loose my humanity simply because im in touch with my inner animal...

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 11:23:59 PM

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Ok, so rather than introduce her to other folks who enjoy pet play, you're going to help her "explore" and in the meantime, she's going to provide you with oral sex. The next time there is a thread where some male Dom comes along and gives the "mentoring" song and dance so he can get his rocks off, this thread is going to be brought back somewhere around page four of his roasting.

Nice ethics.

Whether NS is trolling is entirely immaterial. He was even half way nice about it when you were complaining about how the Mods were being lenient on him. I guess the Mods are being easy on Me, too, for not pulling My post that's also perfectly well within TOS.

He does it everywhere. Of course people playing around once in a while is fine, but don't you think it gets annoying. She doesn't want to meet anyone and is nervous, but still wants to explore and she actually likes giving oral. I am not exploiting her in any way. She wants it all...I am not even pushing her past anything she even slightly feels uncomfortable with.

Why are you all over me seriously.

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 11:25:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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What kind of sick person has a cat eat them out?

What kind of idiot doesn't understand the difference between a human acting like a cat and a real animal?

Well said cat's generally want to be peted and then when they are done BAM!!! They just leave you. :(

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RE: Pet play - 1/30/2012 11:34:58 PM

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It depends King, Im an attention whore Kitteh, and Pebbles (my kitteh) is also an attention whore kitteh....

We will not move until your hand is dead... and even if it is.. we will nudge it and then bite it until you start petting again...

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 12:40:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ghostraven
I am not going to lie. This concept confuses me. I am currently considering a slave who is into pet play. I have zero experience with this. I have been reading and looking but I cannot for the life of me understand. Is it just the humiliation of being treated as sub-human? Or is there a deeper thought here? A darker side that I simply do not see because I have not encountered this before?

I don't really do any animal-specific pet play--just leashes, crawling on all fours, eating out of bowls on the floor, cages, etc.--so I cannot indulge you any information about that, but. It's not about humiliation at all, at least for me (my Master and I don't participate in anything we consider to be humiliation, as it holds no interest to either of us.) I don't feel humiliated, doing pet play. Nor do I feel "sub-human." I simply feel more aware of the fact that my Master owns me--I am his pet, property, and slave. Honestly it makes me feel happy and proud to be his, rather than embarrassed or humiliated. I enjoy enforcing and amplifying the "owned" mindset, and pet play really does that for me. Being leashed and led around and petted just makes me feel...content, in my proper place. At home. I hope that makes sense.

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker
You know how cats and dogs hate being placed in cages? Like you need to transport them somewhere? Does this person also run and hide under beds when she sees a straight-jacket?

This is pretty much irrelevant to your actual post, but have you ever crate trained a dog before? If done correctly and the animal is conditioned properly, they actually learn to like being in their crate/cage. They see it as their "safe place," a nice, comfy enclosed area to sleep, eat, or relax. I have a dog who loves his crate. If left open to him he will often times prefer lounging in there to any other place, whether the door to the crate be open or closed. It's rather useful that he likes it, because he never freaks out when being transported and such--he's very calm and content with it (it was also rather useful for house training him.) Dogs are pretty receptive to crate training because they are animals that feel most comfortable being enclosed on three sides. As such, with a little help, it's easy to get them to associate the cage positively.

Cats on the other hand, that's a different story. I don't think you can ever get them to like it, heh.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 1:16:32 AM

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I dunno, Raspberry. One of my cats is like your dog. He frequently naps in the carrier.

ok, he is rather odd, but he's not the first of my cats to do so. I think the trick is to leave a carrier accessible for them.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 1:27:37 AM

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I dunno, Raspberry. One of my cats is like your dog. He frequently naps in the carrier.

ok, he is rather odd, but he's not the first of my cats to do so. I think the trick is to leave a carrier accessible for them.

Hmm, interesting. I have seen plenty of cats enjoy sleeping in boxes or other such things, though the moment the box or carrier starts to close...without fail they start freaking out! I'm sure somebody somewhere has had cats that are content with it, but I've never seen one. Then again I think cats might just be jointly conspiring against me to put up their worst behavior around me because for some reason in general kitties just don't like me. It's a shame.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 1:44:10 AM

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For me there's nothing humiliating about it.
It's happy time all the way. Some could make
aspects of it humiliating but that's true of lots
of things. If a person who wasn't into it was
being pressured into I could see where it might
seem humiliating but personally and for the
ones I know about it's carefree and joyous.
In my experience it's not about being subhuman
at all. It's about your kinship with another living
creature(s), getting in touch with, exploring
or channeling some part of yourself that already
exists.
The speech restriction aspect of it for me is very
liberating. You have to communicate with out
words and with body language.
It can be a great way for a more reserved or shy
person to express themselves. A puppy can
be adoring in a way a person might find hard
to be.
People do it to varying degrees. Some try to stay
in that headspace as much as possible for others
it's more of an occasional thing. Some like to
meet their owner at the door with the leash in
their mouth. Some come home from work and
unwind in their crate or bed or by batting their
toys around. Not all that different from zoning
out in front of the tv and no stranger than learning
to speak Klingon.
It can be as sexual as you want it to be or not.
Lying at your owners feet or beside him on the
couch. If you can go outside and play that
adds a lot to it. You can romp and play and
use natures litter box.
Some just go into the headspace as is. Some with
just ears and the tail. Some like to make paws and
wear something over their skin. To each their
own. Personally, I break out the ears and tail
when feeling frisky.
Some things you could do with your friend.
Buy her a collar, it doesn't have to represent
anything in a bdsm sense. Just a pretty collar
preferably with a bell to alert the birds a feline
is in the area.
Feed her cream or yogurt in her special bowl easier
to work with than milk.
Hide a mouse, let her find it and bring it to you,
reward her with a good kitty.
One sexy thing to do is face and body paint.
As she gets into expressing who her cat is she
will probably have a visual in her mind.
She might be a striped cat or spotted like a
leopard or a sleek black panther. Get her naked
and paint her . Put on What New Pussycat and
have her do a kitty cat pole dance for you.
She might have more than one cat inside of
her. A playful kitten, a langrous house cat stretching
before the fire and you or a growling lioness.
Another thing, you don't always have to be the
human owner, you can explore your animal sides
together. The lion tamer can turn into a lion for
a spell...purr...I like that.
Have fun with it all role-play it's about exploring
parts of yourself and getting to be someone other
than yourself.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 1:50:26 AM

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My cat hangs out in his carrier sometimes.
But I'm the first to admit he's a odd cat.
My other cat liked to sit on top of hers but
balked at getting in it.
Of course he's got his carrier full of his toys
and stuff he collects. So, it's sort of like that
George Carlin joke about the kid being sent to
his room "Cool, that's where all my stuff is."
And if crate trained correctly dogs like to hang
out in them usually. It's a place to unwind and
it's their personal space.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 2:52:17 AM

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He does it everywhere.

To be honest, outside of my whole disapproval, I do find it curious that you are "helping" someone transition into their more wildside at the expense that they give you oral sex. Oh, and that you're not an actual dominant, but only become one for those curious. Which makes me wonder why, oh why, if this female was truly into such a lifestyle/hobby/etc. she would not seek out an actual relationship that isn't just a thinly veiled friends-with-benefits scheme.

That isn't trolling, boy. That's just my bullshit detector going off.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 7:29:26 AM

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Everybody just relax with some nice kitty kibble, or perhaps play with some yarn, if that picks your fancy :)

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 8:23:30 AM

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He does it everywhere. Of course people playing around once in a while is fine, but don't you think it gets annoying. She doesn't want to meet anyone and is nervous, but still wants to explore and she actually likes giving oral. I am not exploiting her in any way. She wants it all...I am not even pushing her past anything she even slightly feels uncomfortable with.

Why are you all over me seriously.

That's My mistake. I often forget that sarcasm doesn't come across well on the boards. Instead of saying "nice ethics", I probably would have been clearer if I would have just said that I thought the situation that you were describing was rather devoid of moral character. For exchange for your 'help' with her expression of being a furry, you get sexually satisfied. You don't see that as just a bit lecherous?

The gal likes to give head. Does that mean if she's low on cash and somebody 'helps' her with a couple of bucks, she should blow that person, too? Like I said, wait for the next guy who is getting his rocks off 'mentoring' a gal new to the lifestyle and duping her into sexual favors, maybe you'll see the parallel then.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 10:33:47 AM

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Make her put on the ears and tail, you could get those little binding paw mittens so she can't use her hands. Food dishes on the floor, making her chase the string. Grooming time... of course nap-time consists of a cats like 20 hours a day sometimes, so expect her to act like a lazy priss, many cats are.

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 10:56:44 AM

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He does it everywhere.

To be honest, outside of my whole disapproval, I do find it curious that you are "helping" someone transition into their more wildside at the expense that they give you oral sex. Oh, and that you're not an actual dominant, but only become one for those curious. Which makes me wonder why, oh why, if this female was truly into such a lifestyle/hobby/etc. she would not seek out an actual relationship that isn't just a thinly veiled friends-with-benefits scheme.

That isn't trolling, boy. That's just my bullshit detector going off.

Have you ever met a vanilla girl curious into different sex? at all lol? I've met a few and none of them wanted to just go and find some random person they don't know well to help them explore. If she didn't want to do oral then guess what...I wouldn't. I would never do anything she didn't want to do and lady if she wanted to blow a guy and get cash, then you would deprive her of that? Kthxbye

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RE: Pet play - 1/31/2012 12:36:38 PM

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Have you ever met a vanilla girl curious into different sex? at all lol? I've met a few and none of them wanted to just go and find some random person they don't know well to help them explore. If she didn't want to do oral then guess what...I wouldn't. I would never do anything she didn't want to do and lady if she wanted to blow a guy and get cash, then you would deprive her of that? Kthxbye

It is not "finding a random person" I believe the word I used there was relationship. The difference there is building a rapport with someone with a clean slate that under the title of "boyfriend" or "girlfriend" assists them in exploring, provided they have interest in such. As her friend, you should be encouraging her to go out to meet people and get over whatever social anxiety she apparently suffers from. Possibly go with you and have you screen people that look good or look like opportunists.

Of course, that is the ideal situation. You won't do that because you're dense and adolescent in mind. I would be willing to wager that she did not even bring up the subject of oral, but you playing "Mr. Dress Up" as a dominant decided to include that in and her being naive/low self-esteem did not know much better.

Oh wait, look...

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Anyways for the pet play thing I've got ideas like her lapping milk like a cat(she wants to be a kitty), walking around on all fours, and speech restriction(can only meow). Besides that and her eating me out I don't have anything else for her to do

Looks like I didn't even need to have a hunch. At all. "Kthnxbye."

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