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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 7:00:36 AM   
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make sure you've a tape recorder and cell phone to take pics at all times

If I recall correctly, such is admissible as evidence in some states only when the person concerned was made aware that what he says is going to be recorded.



Right you are, Rule. Always check with a lawyer and:

http://www.pimall.com/nais/n.recordlaw.html


But KY is a one party state. You can record anything you want here.

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 7:17:40 AM   
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I think that is what set him off. I filed mine, and it is being delayed basically because of the induction of the new system while still using the old system, and because of being short staffed. I talked to the IRS yesterday in regards to this, and that is what I was told.

When he went to file his, they flagged it and said, no. So he thinks he can throw a fit and make threats to sue me or whatever, and I hate to be the one to tell him this, but I am done being scared.

Because of the EPO when we have to exchange my son for visit, we have to meet in a supermarket and I have to make sure that I maintain distance. If you could see the look on that mans face every time I walk into that building- Lol..some of you would laugh at him...others would know exactly what I am talking about. I used to drop my eyes. I used to look away, or walk away. Now? I lock eyes with him and I offer him just the slightest little smirk. He knows and hates the fact that he doesn't have this control anymore.

That, I think, is the real issue. There is no control. There is no fear. And there is no way he will ever have that power again. Ever.

This is just another way of stomping his feet and making a bad attempt at getting his way...



The only thing holding up progress now is the reinstallation of MS Word so that I can screen shot all of my documentation and take it down there to the correct people.


This is going to be a long day. Tax season is insane for this office down here. But...It will be well worth the wait.



I will keep you guys posted on what they tell me.

Love to you all.



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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 12:43:12 PM   
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I am back...I will now relay to you the email I sent in response to the initial threat.

I am rather proud of it...

J,

I am sorry it took me until today to get back to you. I needed to speak to the county attorney, the IRS and the Victims Assistance office here in Paducah.

Here is the conclusion of those meetings-and the divorce decree being examined in all of those things-

First, this is considered third party contact on Ronnie's part. Anything that starts with R says is considered contact, this includes messages sent by you, by T, or by anyone else at all. This is a direct violation of the EPO. I ask that you cease sending messages of this nature. You and I have an amicable situation where I keep you updated on the welfare of the children and their day to day life. I would like to keep it that way, but if you insist on passing messages then that can not continue.

Second, the IRS; Upon speaking with an IRS agent in the Paducah office at 1230 this afternoon, and taking my divorce decree in with me, it is relevant to explain a few terms to you. I did not claim an exemption for T, I claimed Earned Income Credit for him. The decree does not extend to EIC. Which, under IRS law, I meet the criteria to be able to do. I also meet the criteria for being able to file the exemption, but did not do so. The exemption does not allow for a refund, it simply reduces tax liability. There is no refund associated with that, as there is with EIC. Basically, this exemption lowers the AGI of the tax payer. As stated by the IRS agent, I am not in violation of any IRS codes in regards to the rules that allow for the exemption of a qualifying child to get EIC. In fact, I should be allowed to take both the exemption and the EIC. But I did not. I can go all the way back to 2008, when I had custody of the children, amend my returns and take the exemption for both children, as I have proof that meets the guidelines that the IRS has in place to show who should be allowed to claim the children.

In conclusion, I am in no way in any violation, nor am I in contempt with regards to this issue as it stands in family court. In reality, if I so chose, I could go back to those years and claim that EIC for T and S, as outlined by the federal government and the IRS codes in regards to claiming children of divorced and separated parents. All of these terms and guidelines can be found in IRS publication 501 most specifically with regard to the criteria that must be met for claiming the exemption of the child.

Have a wonderful day.




It was so worth it to gather myself, gather my info, and go in informed and prepared. What I fail to mention in the mix, what I masked in what sounds like a verbatim warning from the victims assistance office and county attorney, is that the violation of the EPO results in a meeting with the county attorney tomorrow morning, which will ultimately result in warrants for contempt and possibly extortion. Basically, he attacked me in an ignorant manner and just threw out the number for the exemption and not the factual number of the EIC, which is 1000, so he started screaming about 3500$ and had no idea what he was talking about.

Score one for the good guys...I think.

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 12:59:13 PM   
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Well done!

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 1:06:16 PM   
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Good luck Lithy I hope it works for you.

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 1:11:33 PM   
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Thank you darlin'. I think I have finally learned to temper myself and realize that luck favors the prepared.

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 1:27:50 PM   
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I even wrote him receipts for child support that he didn't pay, so his punk ass didn't go to jail.

When he was broke? I drove all the way to his fucking house for drop offs and pick ups because Im just that fucking awesome.

I even baby sat his girlfriends kids.

And the kicker is? I didn't even claim EIC on the kid. I claimed a dependent care credit, and marked that he would be claiming the kid. I didnt get the deduction.



And THAT is why he is messing with you...because of allll those things you let him get away with.
You are totally enabling him. You said so yourself.

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 1:32:47 PM   
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Once I made that realization, I stopped and started fighting back.

I realized I was doing it out of fear. Fear that he would take the kids, fear that he would hurt me, fear that he would always be there...imposing his will and presence on me.

When I stopped doing that, threats and games started. When I responded to threats with the law and stood up for my rights, he went silent. This is the first threat he has made in a while.

I took the night and thought it over. I went today and gathered information, and I made sure the information I was using was valid, correct, and backed with codes and easily accessible information so that he could go and check it himself.

I did not resort to cussing or making threats, I did not address him in a person to person manner...I just stated to her what I had been told.

I know there are a great many things he got by with for a long time because I allowed it, and in cases made it possible. But I did that out of fear, and I am not scared anymore.

This is a small victory, but it is not the first and it will not be the last. Strategically speaking, the small victories decide the war.

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 1:45:57 PM   
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Good for you! But from now on, claim everything. Screw him. (figuratively of course!)

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 1:47:41 PM   
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Oh yeah.

That's a given.

Im done being nice.

I will have all the documents to file on Midnight Dec. 31. I am not giving him the chance to keep getting over on me.

Not even close.

That's how this all started. I found, and read, my divorce decree. But I am smarter now.

My brothers always said if I were any smarter I would be dangerous.

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 2:04:30 PM   
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And now, you are!

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RE: Rant? - 2/2/2012 2:47:45 PM   
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Great job!

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RE: Rant? - 2/3/2012 11:25:40 AM   
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Hey Lithium, had to come back and see how it turned out. Good for you! It's  hard to stand up and take the storm that you know is heading your way, but you have 2 good reasons to do it and they will always give you strength when you feel you can't do anymore. Thank you for the compliments on looking young, I get them pretty often and it always feels good, lol. I had my first son when I was 20, I'll never know why I thought that was a good idea but that's what I did and it all turned out fine in the scheme of things.

Yes, I am incredibly proud of my son, amazingly proud for accomplishing what he's done and what he does on a continual basis for work. I have no idea why he choose this path in life but he's happy and that's all I want.

You know, my oldest knows his bio father is a joke, I never threw it in his face but it was there to see. Your kids will figure this out. They'll know what you went through at some point and respect you for trying to do what you could in the manner that  you did. Keep on putting one foot in front of the other, when you feel like faltering you'll remember why you'd doing this and it will give you strength.

Btw, thanks Rule, much appreciated.

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RE: Rant? - 2/3/2012 2:29:03 PM   
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Well, I went to the Victims Advocate today. I go back Monday with my paperwork and evidence and we are looking at warrants for contempt and harassment. He will not be a happy boy, and thanks to some helpful emails, I am going to do some checking and see if I have to get permission to move, or if I just have to notify of intent.

I am done playing.

Thanks guys. Trust me when I say every word has been an encouragement and I appreciate each and everyone.

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RE: Rant? - 2/3/2012 2:50:46 PM   
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Lithium, I don't have a lot of time tonight, but I want to give you something to think about. It might not seem like much, but it's the best thing I've got and don't have time to do more....sorry. School calls - have to have a thesis statement by tomorrow amongst other things.

Ok....I did this. I raised my handsome, intelligent, first son on my own and put myself through college at the same time, across the country from my family, while on welfare, with no car. I had no one for help, not a soul. It was the boy and me. His bio Dad did many of the same crappy things you mentioned here (although not all, I didn't have quite all of that) and I kept on sailing and putting one foot in front of the other till lo and behold this boy grew up to be a handsome, intelligent, and a complete success. He just turned 30, he has a Green Beret, a brand new home, and cars, trucks, and motorcycles. He has totally kicked ass to get there and he is a good person inside to boot. When I look at him I see the many years I struggled. You know what? It was worth it.

I screamed, cried, railed against his father for being such an imbecile. I was so tired sometimes i wanted to never get up again. I took my son to school and then went to my college every freaking day on the bus. I got groceries and brought them home by foot or on the bus. Took laundry in a basket 5 blocks away while holding his little hand to cross the streets. Dragged him with me to dr visits- I had no one to watch him and took him to his own dr visits on the damn bus. I went to get the free box of government food each month and brought it home in a little red wagon with my son riding on top of it. Once I didn't have enough money to buy him shoes so we had to stay home for a couple of days till I got some money. We always had enough to eat, we always had fun, we had each other. He never knew he was deprived.

Take a breath, you can do this. Go look at your children and tell me they're not worth it. Forget the imbecile as much as you can. Nail his ass to the wall for whatever you need to and put him out of your mind. I know it's hard, I know you'd like him to be held responsible for something, anything, but the fact is that he'll weasel out of it- the kids dont mean that much to him. Take the high road for them and just keep putting one foot in front of the other. My kids were the best thing I"ve ever done, anything I've done for them has been totally worth it. I have the satisfaction of knowing I did my best and seeing how wonderful they turned out. Go forth and be the Mom you know you were meant to be, it's not easy but it sure is the most awesome thing you'll ever do.


WOW,that's all I got....WOW,and oh yeah as a single parent who raised his own wildly successful son(yes in some case Daddy just might wind up with the child,and fight like a motherfucker for that joy)a real big kiss heading your way....this made me cry with joy,really

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RE: Rant? - 2/3/2012 7:22:27 PM   
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I'm about to close my eyes, flip thru an atlas and go where ever the page lands when I open them. Kinda like spinning a globe....anywhere but here.

I spent about two hours with victims advocate lady today....I told her my story from beginning to end. The parts that I left out here, because if I went into the whole issue and the legal shit it encompasses....yall would start a petition to just nuke this county off the map, I am not even kidding...when I got done telling her that she looked at me and said the same thing as Forni...in almost the exact same words.."Pack up your kids and GTFO."

Scary shit.

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RE: Rant? - 2/3/2012 10:39:18 PM   
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I didn't read the thread, but have this to say.

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Edited by Frosted Flake

The kidlets sperm donor, who hasn't seen one in 4 years, and has only recently started seeing the younger, post two year hiatus for the chase of vagina...who has an EPO (spell this out, don't rely on ESP) for threatening to kill me, and showing up at my bar in a meth induced rage to do so, has had his mother (yes, third party contact is in violation of said EPO in the great state of Ky) contact me and threaten to both sue me and do bodily damage to me if I do not give him 3500$ of my tax return because he wanted to claim my son.

Now...I have read the tax thing..and it does say that usually the non custodial parent cant take credits and deductions for the kids...I can't email him to tell him he is in fact a total douche for threatening me...But the rant comes in to this-

Who the fuck does this three toed retarded backwater po-dunk fuck monkey think he is? This is the same guy that fucked up my kid playing football last year because he felt like the 100$ a week he pays for TWO kids was more than enough to pay for art classes, football, food, clothes, and all the other accessories that a 16 and 11 year old want?

He doesnt pay medical insurance, he doesn't come to ball games, he doesn't call them ever, he doesn't send birthday cards, he doesnt send christmas presents, he doesnt do any of the shit a real father would do.

The kids live with me 24/7, I do the every day mom things. Dinner, home cooked, every night, I am at every play, every parent meeting, every ball game, every art showing, every band recital, every single thing that a parent should do and then some...and I try to not ask this fucker for anything...Not a damned thing...I even wrote him receipts for child support that he didn't pay, so his punk ass didn't go to jail.

When he was broke? I drove all the way to his fucking house for drop offs and pick ups because Im just that fucking awesome. I even baby sat his girlfriends kids.

And the kicker is? I didn't even claim EIC on the kid. I claimed a dependent care credit, and marked that he would be claiming the kid.

I didnt get the deduction.

And he is going to threaten to sue me? And that he is going to "come to my house and handle this in person if I refuse to reply to his emails?"

Oh. Fuck. No.

So...tomorrow morning, Lithi is going to take her enraged self down to the court house and I am going to show them this email, and I am going to see if that definitively violates the EPO, and I am going to have them toss his missing link looking ass into the cooler so he can calm his shit for a while. And Granny too. (added by Frosted Flake)

But FUck! I am so mad.

I hate being threatened. Particularly by him. I was scared to death of this man for so many years, and I got over that. And now that I am, it's like he knows..and he is fucking with me. And I just keep locking eyes with him and waiting. I know he is going to do something stupid. I just don't know what form it is going to take....and the kicker is...I can't do anything because he is so politically bound up in the county that my case is in...Like the good ole boy system is so alive and well.

Proof of this is the fact that the case workers in this county put payments in maunally when they are notified by the state's main office that a payment has been made. Dood had a back balance of like 1100$, which is a felony. I go to them and am like look...why aren't you going after him for contempt.
They say..Oh...well...we will..but the docket is full right now...It could take 6 months. I say...okay and? Just make it happen. That's what you get paid to do.

2 months go by. I check the balance of what is owed. Mind you in this time, no payments at all came to me. Not a dime...but OMG! his balance is like 765$. Really? Okay. Where did that go then? Cos I didn't get it. Local office tells me they reflect a payment, and if they reflect a payment then it had to be because the state notified them. Call the state and the state says, well...we don't show it as clearing, but it appears that it has. So...we can't do anything about it.

Case worker over the case? Went to prom with his brother.

This guy gets hit with an assault on a minor? The cop that investigates it is an old high school buddy.

The judge exec in the county? His mom and grandmother-at the same time!!- used to fuck with this guy.

His uncle is one of the biggest land owners in the county.

The deacon of the biggest church/private school in the county-the only one for that matter in terms of private schools- perjured himself on the stand at a custody hearing to say that I had to be lawfully removed from the property. When asked to produce a police report, because those types of things are supposed to be reported to the state for safety censuses and shit...he didnt have one. But the testimony was basically considered though not admitted.

This guy has already run me out of the county that I come from. Like I wont even go up there on holidays to see my family because they pull me over and search me every single time I come or go from there.
He has just...complicated things to a point that I am just ready to pull my hair out...and you would think that at some point he would say..yanno...maybe I am just being a dick.

I mean..I am confident in the fact that I am in the right. Nothing I did was with malicious intent. I didn't like race to the IRS and try to claim the kids first. I have claimed them in the past. This isn't new. This isnt like ...oh..all the sudden. So...I dunno if its that he has a complex because he realizes I am not scared of him any more...so he just wants to see what he can do to rattle my cage. I dunno if its that he is trying to bait me into contacting him or into replying to his mother's email, because that puts me in violation as well. I dunno if he is just...I dunno...

Im not saying Im gonna like do anything to him....God knows I would love to, but I am not stupid...but...its one of those things where you just throw your head back and scream...WHAT THE FUCK!


There is the (rough) text of your complaint. But wait, there's more.

Amendment 14 Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

Immediately after visiting the Courthouse, no matter what happens there, you call the USDOJ Civil Rights Division and file a complaint alleging everything in the quote-box above. If the law says you can move on conditions you've met and a Judge says anything else, you need to bring Tom Perez into it. To be utterly frank, Mr. Perez has been a huge disappointment to me personally. But you are not me. Among other things, you are a girl. Who has children. Who is being oppressed by a drug addled former spouse by virtue of his having friends in high places. I think a complaint like yours would draw a different response than a complaint like mine because folks would feel good and look good to themselves when they help you out. On top of that, the old boy network is much more likely to take a hands off approach when their hands could be broken.

So file both complaints and then move, without asking again. An old hippy named Johnathan Rainbow once said to me, "You are only as free as you act." Doing what you are told is what is expected of you. But it is not required.

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RE: Rant? - 2/3/2012 11:21:11 PM   
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Now that Iv'e read the thread I have this to say.

Look at USDOJ Civil Rights Division. File that complaint. It's like calling in the heavy artillery.

Your former spouse reminds me of my father. I think you are doing the right things. Nice message to Grandma. BUT keeping in mind the stupid plus mean equation, I think you should consider consulting with your brothers and cousins.

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RE: Rant? - 2/3/2012 11:34:37 PM   
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I think you should consider consulting with your brothers and cousins.

I second that! (In fact, I thought of it first.)

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RE: Rant? - 2/4/2012 1:05:48 AM   
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Everyone has said it already. 
So I will just extend you my best wishes.


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