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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 7:29:00 AM   
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Thank you, Darling. It's good to be understood.


You shouldn't care so much about being understood, Lady Hib.  I don't care much myself (which is one of a vast array of reasons why I'm superior to you).

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 7:30:07 AM   
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You know, Darling, if you are being meeeeen to me, I WILL FIGURE IT OUT. Honestly I will.

Then WATCH OUT. Oh yeah...

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 7:32:46 AM   
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You know, Darling, if you are being meeeeen to me, I WILL FIGURE IT OUT. Honestly I will.

Then WATCH OUT. Oh yeah...


No, me dear.  Just joking with myself, that's all.

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 7:37:40 AM   
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Hm. Meen. Yep.

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 9:36:34 AM   
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And that, to me, is what it CAN feel like when you are telling someone about a difficult situation and what you get back is "You should......." "You should have......" or "Well I would have...."

The are in effect saying that they feel the way you are handling something, or did handle something is less effective than they would.


  I don't know a male friend who's ever expressed the complaint that you have about other males' listening/advice skills to them, actually. 


That is because they are guys. Guys communicate very differently with one another.

I feel I am very lucky in that I spend most of my time around guys. I live with one. I work with three of them. I actually spend very little time around women. The only consistent female company I have in my life right now, are three dogs. The other company in our building has two women but I actually have very little interaction with them. We were friends at one time but when they started trying to use that friendship in an unethical way in business (they rent space from the company I manage) I backed off the friendship.

I really enjoy the company of men. If a guy is mad we have it out and it's over. In fact, of the guys in my life only one has a tendency to pout for a few days. but then, when it's over, it's over. There are a lot of more male traits that I really appreciate and prefer in companions. I love the differences between men and women.

Like LadyHib, I recognize the differences and accept the reality that male and female brains really do work differently. That is a conversation that I've had frequently with Generic Dude and the guys I work with. Especially my boss in conversations about his marital struggles.

What I've seen is that women really seem to get upset when evidence, that a man's brain doesn't work like their own, pops up. Kinda like I saw Lockit post about the movie Pretty Woman. Hell, I don't really care for the story line but I appareciate the eye candy of Julia Roberts. In that case I have a unique perspective. Also, like LadyHib, I've been accused of having a brain that works more like a man than a woman. Personally I think it's just that I spend a lot more time with men and have learned to communicate and think in a way that allows me to work well with these guys. More nurture than nature.

For ME, guys are easier friends and companions. I don't have to second guess their words. Women are more prone to hidden meanings, having two 'conversations' one obvious and another less so. Women, tend to be a lot more passive aggressive even though it's not strictly a female behaviour. My pressman will readily admit he is and has zero plans to change it. The great thing is that, because he's a guy, we can actually talk about it without him getting bent out of shape and making it an issue.

I am not trying to over simplify or demean the male brain. I just acknowledge that it does work very differently,, in many ways than the female brain. And I enjoy it.

If a guy wants to please a woman, he's going to benefit from recognizing the differences and working with them instead of having those difference work against them.

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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!

Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 10:46:55 AM   
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If I were deprived the company of women, I would probably shut down completely. I cannot imagine being around men exclusively, all the time. Truly, a shudderyhorrible thought.

Men do operate on a different wavelength, but it's my experience that they require a great deal more ego-driven "handling". Maybe I'm just poisoned by having to wrangle my dad all the time.



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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 11:01:51 AM   
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I miss the company of women. When I lived in Cedar Rapids I had a good friend I did a lot of horse stuff with and a lot of female acquaintances. Unfortunately the friendships did not survive the move.

One thing I didn't consider prior to moving was the change in my social life. The mindset around here tends to be a lot more conservative and/or, white trash, let's get drunk and flash our tits while hanging out at the local trashy bar.

Fortunately I've never been a person that needs a lot of socializing. I do very well by myself.

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 12:45:02 PM   
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I am not "social", but I do have my close friends. Honestly, a day I don't leave the house is a Good Day.

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 5:05:08 PM   
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Hello A/all,

For a bit I thought I'd tripped over a Yellojackets nest. I don't know if I agree with Peon's statement about brittle egos. I doubt there are any more brittle than mine. Further, I don't see much difference between being patronized and being matronized.

I will say that I think men and women communicate differently and for different reasons. I expect a man to give advice. That's why I talking to him. Have I overlooked something? If I'm wrong, I can count on my friends to say so. I want their thoughts.

My observation (note that caveat), is that when I converse with women, listening is more important for numerous reasons. One of the most important is that conversations are more about feelings. One thing that I've learned is that a carifying question, "When you say <insert here> do you mean...?" can be illuminating. I am not adverse to mentioning a distinction or expressing an insight. I rarely offer advice.

Respectfully,
Mike

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RE: To truly please a Lady - 2/4/2012 5:14:32 PM   
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I don't know if I agree with Peon's statement about brittle egos.


No problem.  I'm not sure I agree with it either.  

Well, not without qualification, anyway. 

I shall masticate further upon the subject. 

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