Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Do you hate rich people?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Do you hate rich people? Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/10/2012 6:29:45 PM   
LookieNoNookie


Posts: 12216
Joined: 8/9/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

What a childish question.  Laws are passed, and some people benefit and others are detrimented.  Implying that hatred forms the basis for so doing is ridiculous.


Well said (as usual).

(in reply to DarkSteven)
Profile   Post #: 41
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/10/2012 6:44:53 PM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
I love rich people......medium rare......

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to LookieNoNookie)
Profile   Post #: 42
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/10/2012 7:23:08 PM   
LookieNoNookie


Posts: 12216
Joined: 8/9/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I love rich people......medium rare......


I love rich people. They're carrying my money...they just haven't figured it out yet.

(It's very kind of them).

(in reply to Owner59)
Profile   Post #: 43
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/10/2012 9:39:09 PM   
TheHeretic


Posts: 19100
Joined: 3/25/2007
From: California, USA
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Implying that hatred forms the basis for so doing is ridiculous.



Well of course it's ridiculous, Steve, but these are the rules in play. Did you see the old lady being run off the cliff in her wheelchair? It's a good rhetorical question, for the audience, and maybe to some of those disillusioned occupists who've gone home, thinking the Democrats are their only hope.

Rand, at least, will acknowledge that he's exaggerating, if you listen to the rest of his speech (the delivery gets better).

I don't think the President hates rich people, but I do think he's completely fine with campaigning on resentment, and quite ok with cheap and easy dramatic rhetoric.

I'm glad I gave it a full listen. Thanks for posting it, Firm






_____________________________

If you lose one sense, your other senses are enhanced.
That's why people with no sense of humor have such an inflated sense of self-importance.


(in reply to DarkSteven)
Profile   Post #: 44
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/10/2012 10:23:14 PM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
" The rules" piffft....

What cons are doing is tying to deflect their responsibility for letting predator capitalists ruin our economy.....


They`re taking righteous anger,concern and scrutiny from Americans who`ve suffered through the great recession and are belittling them with a childish "class warfare" charge and chepening the debate.


Cons seem clueless that what the Mitts and CityBanks were doing was the opposite of capitalism.


Capitalism is a free and open and honest market place, free of insiders and inside deals and secret deals with public money,and secret info that only a few benefit from(read:Mitt Romney)

When there`s 500,000 investors all getting info and all competing above board,capitalism and free markets work.

When a select few operate outside of those rules,like 75% of our big financial houses were,you get something vulture/predator capitalism and the worst financial loss since the great depression.



< Message edited by Owner59 -- 2/10/2012 10:24:27 PM >


_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to TheHeretic)
Profile   Post #: 45
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/10/2012 10:45:35 PM   
FirmhandKY


Posts: 8948
Joined: 9/21/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Implying that hatred forms the basis for so doing is ridiculous.


Well of course it's ridiculous, Steve, but these are the rules in play. Did you see the old lady being run off the cliff in her wheelchair? It's a good rhetorical question, for the audience, and maybe to some of those disillusioned occupists who've gone home, thinking the Democrats are their only hope.

Rand, at least, will acknowledge that he's exaggerating, if you listen to the rest of his speech (the delivery gets better).

I don't think the President hates rich people, but I do think he's completely fine with campaigning on resentment, and quite ok with cheap and easy dramatic rhetoric.

I'm glad I gave it a full listen. Thanks for posting it, Firm

Damn, Rich ... you weren't suppose to actually ... well ... ya know ... listen to it!

You were just suppose to filter the quote out of context, through your own ideology, and then make an all knowing and/snarky comment about Republicans.

Get with the friggin' program, man! 

Firm


_____________________________

Some people are just idiots.

(in reply to TheHeretic)
Profile   Post #: 46
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/10/2012 10:55:06 PM   
FirmhandKY


Posts: 8948
Joined: 9/21/2004
Status: offline
On a more serious note ...

He did speak and deliver well.

Paul only lives about 29 miles or so away from me.

Give him a little more experience.  I think Paul may become a very important man in the future.

I'm kinda glad I'm a Kentucky boy, and back in my home state. 

Firm


_____________________________

Some people are just idiots.

(in reply to TheHeretic)
Profile   Post #: 47
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 7:45:48 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
Rand?


Nope.....he`ll become more of an extremist than he is now.And the DC insider ya`ll pretend to loath.


Maybe that`s the point you were making?

< Message edited by Owner59 -- 2/11/2012 7:46:34 AM >


_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to FirmhandKY)
Profile   Post #: 48
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 7:50:12 AM   
thompsonx


Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline
quote:

Capitalism is a free and open and honest market place, free of insiders and inside deals and secret deals with public money,and secret info that only a few benefit from(read:Mitt Romney)


You have no clue what capitalism is.
Capitalism does not seek competiton it seeks monopoly.

(in reply to Owner59)
Profile   Post #: 49
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 7:51:36 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline
You missed the scarcasm font, Saburo.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to thompsonx)
Profile   Post #: 50
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 7:58:35 AM   
thompsonx


Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline


The following is from a book by edward bellamy called "looking back from the year 2000" It was written in 1887.
Why would anyone hate the rich?


By way of attempting to give the reader some general impression of the way people lived together in those days, and especially of the relations of the rich and poor to one another, perhaps I cannot do better than to compare society as it then was to a prodigious coach which the masses of humanity were harnessed to and dragged toilsomely along a very hilly and sandy road. The driver was hunger, and permitted no lagging, though the pace was necessarily very slow. Despite the difficulty of drawing the coach at all along so hard a road, the top was covered with passengers who never got down, even at the steepest ascents. These seats on top were very breezy and comfortable. Well up out of the dust, their occupants could enjoy the scenery at their leisure, or critically discuss the merits of the straining team. Naturally such places were in great demand and the competition for them was keen, every one seeking as the first end in life to secure a seat on the coach for himself and to leave it to his child after him. By the rule of the coach a man could leave his seat to whom he wished, but on the other hand there were many accidents by which it might at any time be wholly lost. For all that they were so easy, the seats were very insecure, and at every sudden jolt of the coach persons were slipping out of them and falling to the ground, where they were instantly compelled to take hold of the rope and help to drag the coach on which they had before ridden so pleasantly. It was naturally regarded as a terrible misfortune to lose one's seat, and the apprehension that this might happen to them or their friends was a constant cloud upon the happiness of those who rode.

But did they think only of themselves? you ask. Was not their very luxury rendered intolerable to them by comparison with the lot of their brothers and sisters in the harness, and the knowledge that their own weight added to their toil? Had they no compassion for fellow beings from whom fortune only distinguished them? Oh, yes; commiseration was frequently expressed by those who rode for those who had to pull the coach, especially when the vehicle came to a bad place in the road, as it was constantly doing, or to a particularly steep hill. At such times, the desperate straining of the team, their agonized leaping and plunging under the pitiless lashing of hunger, the many who fainted at the rope and were trampled in the mire, made a very distressing spectacle, which often called forth highly creditable displays of feeling on the top of the coach. At such times the passengers would call down encouragingly to the toilers of the rope, exhorting them to patience, and holding out hopes of possible compensation in another world for the hardness of their lot, while others contributed to buy salves and liniments for the crippled and injured. It was agreed that it was a great pity that the coach should be so hard to pull, and there was a sense of general relief when the specially bad piece of road was gotten over. This relief was not, indeed, wholly on account of the team, for there was always some danger at these bad places of a general overturn in which all would lose their seats.

It must in truth be admitted that the main effect of the spectacle of the misery of the toilers at the rope was to enhance the passengers' sense of the value of their seats upon the coach, and to cause them to hold on to them more desperately than before. If the passengers could only have felt assured that neither they nor their friends would ever fall from the top, it is probable that, beyond contributing to the funds for liniments and bandages, they would have troubled themselves extremely little about those who dragged the coach.

I am well aware that this will appear to the men and women of the twentieth century an incredible inhumanity, but there are two facts, both very curious, which partly explain it. In the first place, it was firmly and sincerely believed that there was no other way in which Society could get along, except the many pulled at the rope and the few rode, and not only this, but that no very radical improvement even was possible, either in the harness, the coach, the roadway, or the distribution of the toil. It had always been as it was, and it always would be so. It was a pity, but it could not be helped, and philosophy forbade wasting compassion on what was beyond remedy.

The other fact is yet more curious, consisting in a singular hallucination which those on the top of the coach generally shared, that they were not exactly like their brothers and sisters who pulled at the rope, but of finer clay, in some way belonging to a higher order of beings who might justly expect to be drawn. This seems unaccountable, but, as I once rode on this very coach and shared that very hallucination, I ought to be believed. The strangest thing about the hallucination was that those who had but just climbed up from the ground, before they had outgrown the marks of the rope upon their hands, began to fall under its influence. As for those whose parents and grand-parents before them had been so fortunate as to keep their seats on the top, the conviction they cherished of the essential difference between their sort of humanity and the common article was absolute. The effect of such a delusion in moderating fellow feeling for the sufferings of the mass of men into a distant and philosophical compassion is obvious. To it I refer as the only extenuation I can offer for the indifference which, at the period I write of, marked my own attitude toward the misery of my brothers.


(in reply to FirmhandKY)
Profile   Post #: 51
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 8:06:46 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
So could get we a description/accounting of how it is rich people are victims,put upon and treated unfairly?


All this talk about class warfare and I`m not seeing the wealthy victims here.

Plenty of middle class and "once middle-class, hoping to be again" victims.Real damage and real loss.

The folks who lost their savings,retirement,investments and pensions,etc. at the hands of the one%.The ones who had to pony up even more money(tarp) and give it to the thieves who just fucked us.

Please,list all the outrages and perils the uptrodden wealthy have had to endure so stoically?



< Message edited by Owner59 -- 2/11/2012 8:08:05 AM >


_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 52
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 8:51:49 AM   
MrBukani


Posts: 1920
Joined: 4/18/2010
Status: offline
The filthy few.

(in reply to Owner59)
Profile   Post #: 53
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 10:40:50 AM   
popeye1250


Posts: 18104
Joined: 1/27/2006
From: New Hampshire
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I don't hate rich people per se but I do "hate" it when they influence our govt. and laws using their riches like for all those rotten "free-trade" deals.



You do realize that wealthy people, mostly men, have been 'influencing' our government since our country's inception don't you?



Tigresse, so that makes stealing and corruption right?
You have to wonder why prosecutors are so reluctant to go after people with large bank accounts.
I thought it was "Of, by, and for The People." Silly me.

_____________________________

"But Your Honor, this is not a Jury of my Peers, these people are all decent, honest, law-abiding citizens!"

(in reply to LaTigresse)
Profile   Post #: 54
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/11/2012 5:54:12 PM   
MasterJaguar01


Posts: 2425
Joined: 12/2/2006
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


Rand Paul To Obama:

"I have a question, a question for the president: Do you hate all rich people, or just rich people who don't contribute to your campaign?" Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said at CPAC today.

Does anyone serious doubt the answer to that question?

Firm




Seriously? You need to watch something besides FOX news...

What has Obama EVER said that would lead you to believe he hates rich people??? He IS a rich person.


The realization that rich people are not job creators != hatred of rich people.

(in reply to FirmhandKY)
Profile   Post #: 55
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/13/2012 1:22:51 PM   
SternSkipper


Posts: 7546
Joined: 3/7/2004
Status: offline
quote:

And, I especially hate rich people like Jay-Z who prints and sell "Occupy" T-shirts without donating any of the profits to the people he claims to represent.


How do you feel about rich people like Jamie Diman who write a check for $4mil to the NYPD right after a bunch of protesters show up on 'your street'?
Just wondering.


_____________________________

Looking forward to The Dead Singing The National Anthem At The World Series.




Tinfoilers Swallow


(in reply to gman992)
Profile   Post #: 56
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/13/2012 1:28:43 PM   
SternSkipper


Posts: 7546
Joined: 3/7/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ETA: List of charities that Jay Z is involved in on a regular basis:

Artists for Peace and Justice
Boys' and Girls' Clubs of America
Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS
Grammy Foundation
Music for Relief
PlayPumps
Red Cross: made a $1 Million donation to victims of hurricane Katrina. Yeah...he really hates poor people.


Miss A... you'll be happy to know that Jay Z IS actually helping the Occupy folks with housing costs over the winter. And it's my understanding that the t-shirts were selling like shit anyway.
And it's not as if he's running for President on the record of having founded one of the firms that CREATED the concept of Vulture Capitalism and makes the Claim of being a "Job Creator"


_____________________________

Looking forward to The Dead Singing The National Anthem At The World Series.




Tinfoilers Swallow


(in reply to MissAsylum)
Profile   Post #: 57
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/14/2012 5:57:43 AM   
DomYngBlk


Posts: 3316
Joined: 3/27/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Throat4U

As much as i hate to admit it...I do...I guess its coz how they want to flaunt there money and squander it .. when there's so many in this country in dire straights that needs just a little help.


There but by the grace of......but no. MOST of us are in the life situations we are in because of the choices we've made.

I don't envy or hate those that made good choices that led to their riches and I don't often feel sorry for those that made poor choices that led to them being in dire straights.

And exactly what is 'flaunting it' to you?



You have any evidence to back up the MOST of us are where we are because of our choices?


Just a load of shit fed to us by the wealthy so they can feel better about themselves.....while keeping the rest of us in our place.....

(in reply to LaTigresse)
Profile   Post #: 58
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/14/2012 6:37:36 AM   
SternSkipper


Posts: 7546
Joined: 3/7/2004
Status: offline
quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Implying that hatred forms the basis for so doing is ridiculous.



Well of course it's ridiculous, Steve, but these are the rules in play. Did you see the old lady being run off the cliff in her wheelchair? It's a good rhetorical question, for the audience, and maybe to some of those disillusioned occupists who've gone home, thinking the Democrats are their only hope.

Rand, at least, will acknowledge that he's exaggerating, if you listen to the rest of his speech (the delivery gets better).

I don't think the President hates rich people, but I do think he's completely fine with campaigning on resentment, and quite ok with cheap and easy dramatic rhetoric.

I'm glad I gave it a full listen. Thanks for posting it, Firm


Damn, Rich ... you weren't suppose to actually ... well ... ya know ... listen to it!

You were just suppose to filter the quote out of context, through your own ideology, and then make an all knowing and/snarky comment about Republicans.

Get with the friggin' program, man!

Firm


Hahahahahaha ... you call this political capital???? A 2 year old ad from a PAC?

God, I guess that puts Nixon and Spiro Agnew, and Joe McCarthy on the table for Christ's sake try to stay at least in the same year if you want to sound relevant.


_____________________________

Looking forward to The Dead Singing The National Anthem At The World Series.




Tinfoilers Swallow


(in reply to FirmhandKY)
Profile   Post #: 59
RE: Do you hate rich people? - 2/14/2012 6:45:09 AM   
thishereboi


Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


Rand Paul To Obama:

"I have a question, a question for the president: Do you hate all rich people, or just rich people who don't contribute to your campaign?" Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said at CPAC today.

Does anyone serious doubt the answer to that question?

Firm




Seriously? You need to watch something besides FOX news...
According to his posts, he rarely watches Fox, but don't let the facts get in your way.

What has Obama EVER said that would lead you to believe he hates rich people??? He IS a rich person.
What does being rich have to do with hating the rich. Haven't you been listening to the stars going on about the 1% while sitting in their mansions sipping champagne. note: I didn't say he hated the rich, I was just faulting the logic shown here


The realization that rich people are not job creators != hatred of rich people.
???



_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert


This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi


(in reply to MasterJaguar01)
Profile   Post #: 60
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Do you hate rich people? Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.125