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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 4:51:04 PM   
JanahX


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You put yourself in a situation that was doomed to fail from the beginning and you must of known that. If someone is critical and being verbally abusive (meaning he's calling you names and its causing bad feelings inside of you) - you should of bailed. Instead you kept it going.

Have you never been with someone who made you just want to curl yourself around their finger and keep wanting more and more and more = because you get a personal high when you are around them? If not - then you are selling yourself short.

Dont beat yourself up about it. This kind of shit happens to just about everyone. You went into it and got rejected. Big fucking whoop. In my eyes you should be thanking your lucky stars.

Im not sure what your all parinoid about - fuck him. And if your so worried about him, carry a hammer or a charged tazer on you at all times, and be ready to use it.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 4:59:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX

...you should of bailed.

Note to OP: JanahX isn't stupid either.

K.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 5:21:41 PM   
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I need some advice, or some thoughts because I am kind of freaked out right now.

I met a dominant who had a wife, we met two times going to coffee (all of which I was early for). Everything started out fine, the wife seemed to be not sure about things at all, her husband kept D/s from her. He was starting to tell her.
I really liked his dominant style, but eventually something upset him. Sometimes, I was stupid and wrote "would of" instead of " would have" in text. He told me to change it, and I did, but SOME I missed on accident still, but my grammar was getting a lot better. A LOT better. When I made a mistake he would say " you are either careless or stupid, so which one is it?" He had to keep correcting it, which I know is bad, but I was trying, it's an automatic habit. This was the first red flag though because he was judging everything about me based off of my grammar. He would say " if you can't fix something simple like this, what else can't you do?" I know little things show a lot, but I think other stuff shows a lot also. I worked my whole entire schedule around to get my STD tests in, I went the day he asked me, to ME that shows a lot also. I was on top of things. He kept telling me he wanted me in his life a very long time, he wanted poly. I believed him.

Well, I was going to his house yesterday finally him and his wife and i were all going to just hang out. Well, he was mad at me about the grammar again, he was implying I was dumb, which upsets me he was telling me I had to prove to them I'm not. (Which is dumb because I'm doing a lot in school and the internship I have I could not get if I was dumb). So I was flustered (I was already nervous), and I forgot the papers. I was half way there and told him I forgot them, at first he said we are going to have to reschedule, that I was acting like I really don't want this . I wasn't late to ANY of the coffee dates at all. I told him i am usually never late... and because of the grammar and this he goes " you keep telling us you aren't like this yet that is what you are showing." Anyway, he decides to let me come. We just play pool, it goes well. Then he goes and talks to his wife, he comes out and talks to me, and he says " i want you and her to play together, do you want to?" I'm like... I don't know I feel nervous , i said i'd have to get alcohol to give me that extra push. Well, we ended up drinking, and everything was going great. He told me to play with her... so I did.

Well, when I was fingering her, she started to bleed. I felt really badly, but I don't understand because I've fingered many girls like I did her and they didn't bleed. Anyway, I thought it was still a good night, they were acting like it, they kept going, and I felt bad and wanted to stop. But, also, she was really drunk, and so was I .

Anyway, I leave that morning, I never receive a text. I finally say to tell me even if there is something wrong. He goes " yeah it's not going to work, we feel that where we need you to be would take too much time and we are in the process of moving and it's just too much, we don't have that time. And, my wife is still bleeding, we got her a doctors appointment for tomorrow."

I feel kind of violated, I trusted him, I did what he asked, I played with her.. I feel really badly, I did NOT mean to hurt her. But, I opened myself to him.

Did I do something wrong? Is there a reason I should be feeling so uncomfortable? I feel like if you decide to play with someone, something might happen, you consent to that. Also with drinking you don't know what could happen. He always told me he was smarter than me and more educated, but his thought process isn't very sharp? Why try to get two people to play together the first night we really hang out ? Should of said no to me asking for alcohol, and stuff like that happens, that doesn't mean i'm a bad person.

Can you please tell me your thoughts? As dominants? I feel bad, but I did what he said. And he was really mad I was 20 minutes late, but I was flustered and nervous. I feel they didn't even give me a chance, or was I the one, who really messed it up? Would you guys judge me off of this stuff too?


There are sooooooooo many things here that are fucked up.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 5:44:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lilmisssubmiss

Lol, no he said he wasn't interested this morning.

Because i am too much work. and she is still bleeding.


Wrong.  The REAL story is that he got told to make a decision, and he chose his wife.  Here's my take:

He had been working his butt off keeping his wife convinced.  She wasn't happy about poly in the first place, then she saw you, and you're younger than her and likely prettier.  He figured that his one chance was to get the two of you getting it on, so he pushed.  So he's feeling stressed about getting her on board, she's feeling threatened by the whole thing, and he's getting angry it's not going better.  So the reason you felt something was wrong was her anger and jealousy, and his anger at having the whole situation unraveling before his eyes.

Next day, his wife is blaming him because she's bleeding, she's venting on him because he forced his fantasy on her and it didn't work well.  So he texted you and instead of being honest, he just said that YOU were too much work.  Suffice it to say that you were a helluva lot more accommodating than almost any other unicorn.

He's simply an idiot with a fantasy.  And don't worry about him outing you - his wife is going to yell at him for months about pushing her into something she never wanted.  He's going to be so sick of hearing about you - he's NOT going to be doing anything else.


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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 6:09:15 PM   
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DarkSteven, always the voice of reason. I love reading your posts.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 6:10:51 PM   
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quote:

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DarkSteven, always the voice of reason. I love reading your posts.


(I taught him everything he knows).

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 6:12:54 PM   
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Okay, I just perved your profile (nice primary pic, BTW), and you've listed polyamory as a hard limit. Between that, his apparent dishonesty/deceptions with his wife, and his abusive actions towards you, somewhere in there *you* needed to grasp out that things aren't right for *you*. Yeah, the guy sounds like a complex dickhead, I'll make no apologies for him, but you need to sort out your own red-flags on this. If he didn't meet your base criteria of no-poly, then you shouldn't have let him go past to intimate relations with his wife.

I wish that I could think of a nicer way to say that sort of thing, but sometimes the kindest thing is to be direct. If poly is a hard limit, keep it there. Any honest Dom who agrees to mentor/train/etc will respect that, if he doesn't, keep looking elsewhere, and don't let subfrenzy override your better judgement.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 6:16:38 PM   
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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 6:16:52 PM   
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Look, they just wanted sex from you and not have to worry about getting stds from you. That's all, that's it. They were never looking to you to their poly. You gave them what they wanted and moved on. You should too.

Next time trust your instincts and don't do things you feel uncomfortable with.


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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 6:31:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lilmisssubmiss

Lol, no he said he wasn't interested this morning.

Because i am too much work. and she is still bleeding.


When she began bleeding did she want to continue; or was she too drunk to make an informed decision?
Is it possible her drunkenness masked discomfort or pain?


Was he drunk?
What did he say at that point?

I am not trying to lay fault; I see personal responsibility as being different than blame or fault.

Write down what happened from the beginning and underline all the parts that you had a hand in: all the bits of bad decision making.
We don't learn from our mistakes unless we know what mistakes we made.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 7:40:37 PM   
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Based on your words, to me, he is a douche canoe. You can do better. Don't beat yourself up. They weren't right for you. Someone else is.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 7:42:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: lilmisssubmiss

Can you please tell me your thoughts? As dominants? I feel bad, but I did what he said. And he was really mad I was 20 minutes late, but I was flustered and nervous. I feel they didn't even give me a chance, or was I the one, who really messed it up? Would you guys judge me off of this stuff too?

You didn't do anything wrong. You're NOT stupid. And this so-called "Dom" is an emotionally abusive prick.

Stay the fuck away from him.

K.



And yeah, this.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 8:42:39 PM   
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why does this thread remind me of "the secretary"?

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 9:42:50 PM   
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Thanks for all your help guys.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 9:46:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lilmisssubmiss

Thanks for all your help guys.


You know, there ARE more tangible ways you can show your thankfulness. 


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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 9:54:41 PM   
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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 9:56:14 PM   
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I'm just mad at myself for putting myself in this position anyway. It just didn't even need to happen. I feel so STUPID.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 10:02:00 PM   
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Just move on. Fuck it and forget about it. ( and remember that hammer and charged tazer advice... I bet if he came around and you zapped him right in the nuts you'd feel a lot better about everything. )

quote:

I'm just mad at myself for putting myself in this position anyway. It just didn't even need to happen. I feel so STUPID.


< Message edited by JanahX -- 2/12/2012 10:07:12 PM >


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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 10:05:39 PM   
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I'm just mad at myself for putting myself in this position anyway. It just didn't even need to happen. I feel so STUPID.


There isn't a person on this earth who hasn't done something (sometimes lots of things) they later regretted. Mistakes have a purpose if you learn from them and don't repeat the same one twice (new mistakes are OK and inevitable...that's how we learn.) Now...if you keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome...that would qualify as 'stupid.'

Next time will be better. Now that you've acknowledged where you goofed, let it go. You've suffered enough.

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RE: Freaked out - 2/12/2012 10:08:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: lilmisssubmiss

Lol, no he said he wasn't interested this morning.

Because i am too much work. and she is still bleeding.


Wrong.  The REAL story is that he got told to make a decision, and he chose his wife.  Here's my take:

He had been working his butt off keeping his wife convinced.  She wasn't happy about poly in the first place, then she saw you, and you're younger than her and likely prettier.  He figured that his one chance was to get the two of you getting it on, so he pushed.  So he's feeling stressed about getting her on board, she's feeling threatened by the whole thing, and he's getting angry it's not going better.  So the reason you felt something was wrong was her anger and jealousy, and his anger at having the whole situation unraveling before his eyes.

Next day, his wife is blaming him because she's bleeding, she's venting on him because he forced his fantasy on her and it didn't work well.  So he texted you and instead of being honest, he just said that YOU were too much work.  Suffice it to say that you were a helluva lot more accommodating than almost any other unicorn.

He's simply an idiot with a fantasy.  And don't worry about him outing you - his wife is going to yell at him for months about pushing her into something she never wanted.  He's going to be so sick of hearing about you - he's NOT going to be doing anything else.



Btw, THIS in its entirety!! ^^^^


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