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TheBigDog -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 12:58:43 PM)

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Could we take it from this, then, that you would be in favor of relieving your bio-engineered industrial farming family and friends of such onerous government intervention in the form of  subsidies and price supports, so that they could just learn to live their own damn lives without begging for more and more? 


Farmers made this country great, boy, and I suggest you watch you're smartass tone and just stick to the facts of the argument. The fact is this nation relies on farmers and big business and people who want to attack both all the time are doing nothing but weakening this nation even more then the politicians are already doing.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 1:34:24 PM)

Jesus, Dog, you "suggest" he watch his "smartass" tone?  You gonna make him?
The agricultural industry is the biggest suckler at the public tit around.  Most of these industrialized farms could not stay in business if they didn't have subsidized water, next to free leases on public land, and outright cash subsidies.  Apparently you didn't know that, despite all those friends and family members you have that are farmers.

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ORIGINAL: TheBigDog

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Could we take it from this, then, that you would be in favor of relieving your bio-engineered industrial farming family and friends of such onerous government intervention in the form of  subsidies and price supports, so that they could just learn to live their own damn lives without begging for more and more? 


Farmers made this country great, boy, and I suggest you watch you're smartass tone and just stick to the facts of the argument. The fact is this nation relies on farmers and big business and people who want to attack both all the time are doing nothing but weakening this nation even more then the politicians are already doing.




Edwynn -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 1:41:54 PM)


The health concerns are one issue of bio-engineered foods, a very important one, but the purpose of this engineering involves something possibly even more odious in the economic realm, that being one of monopoly/hegemony over almost all staple crops in the world.

This has been a work in progress for a long time, and Monsanto is nothing if not relentless in their quest. The recent 'food safety act' in the US that nearly outlawed all but bio-engineered food (including, rather I should say, especially organically/biodynamically grown and raised food) was essentially written by Monsanto's Michael Taylor, Obama's 'Food Safety Czar' at the time.

A couple of examples of what that busy man has been up to:

http://www.foodfirst.org/en/node/2515

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In (Monsanto's Michael) Taylor’s 2003 paper “American Patent Policy, Biotechnology, and African Agriculture: The Case for Policy Change,” he states: “The Green Revolution largely bypassed sub-Saharan Africa…African farmers often face difficult growing conditions, and better access to the basic Green Revolution tools of fertilizer, pesticides, improved seeds, and irrigation certainly can play an important role in improving their productivity."

(-who want's to guess just which company's fertilizer, pesticides, and 'improved' seeds Mr. Taylor might have in mind for this noble purpose?-)

Yet as (Paula) Crossfield (in Huffington Post) points out, “There are very good reasons why we have never introduced a Green Revolution into Africa, namely because there is broad consensus that the Green Revolution in India has been a failure, with Indian farmers in debt, bound to paying high costs for seed and pesticides, committing suicide at much higher rates, and resulting in a depleted water table and a poisoned environment, and by extension, higher rates of cancer. If President Obama is lacking this information, it is his cabinet that is to blame.”

While AGRA may not benefit African farmers, it will certainly benefit Monsanto. Some estimate that Monsanto controls 90 percent of the global market for GM seeds. In Brazil, 54 percent of all soybeans are produced with Monsanto’s GM Roundup Ready© seeds, and in 2008, the country began spraying more pesticides and herbicides than the U.S. There is evidence that in 2003, Monsanto sold a Brazilian senator a farm for one-third of its market value in exchange for his help to legalize the herbicide glyphosate (the world’s most widely used herbicide), sold by the corporation as Roundup©. In 2008, Monsanto controlled 80% of the Brazilian market for glyphosate, having elevated the price by 50% since its legalization." (emphasis added)

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And a recent item regarding India:

http://www.ecoag.org.au/www/index.php?option=com_acymailing&ctrl=archive&task=view&listid=1-mailing_list&mailid=25-eaaa-ecological-agriculture-australia-association-newsletter-december-2011&Itemid=35

The Prime Minister’s Office in India has cancelled Monsanto's seed MOU (memorandum of understanding) with Rajasthan Agricultural Universities. While what was being undertaken was a great seed robbery under the supervision of the State, it was being called PPP - Private Public Partnership. The MOU with Monsanto focused on Maize, Cotton, and vegetables (hot pepper, tomato, cabbage, cucumber, cauliflower, water melon). Monsanto controls the cotton seed market in India and globally. Monsanto controls 97% of the worldwide maize market, and 63.5% of the GM cotton market. And DuPont has had to initiate anti-trust investigations in U.S because of Monsanto's growing seed monopoly. Thus the MOU would have deepened Monsanto's monopoly over seed supply. The MOU violated farmers’ rights by handing over the genetic wealth of farmers to corporations without the consent of farmers, the MOU's were one sided and biased in favour of corporate intellectual property rights. While public resources would have been freely given away to Monsanto as a subsidy, Monsanto's IPR monopolies would have been protected. This was an MOU for "Monsanto takes all, the public system gives all". It was clearly an MOU for privatisation of our seed and genetic wealth, our knowledge and a violation of farmers’ rights. The seed supplies that the agriculture universities were handing over to Monsanto were not the property of the state, nor of Monsanto. They were the common property of farming communities. For further reading or to contact the source, Dr. Vandana Shiva (Founder Director, Navdanya Trust). (emphasis added)

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If Monsanto is allowed to continue on this track and obtain effective control over all the essential staple crops (such control obviously having been obtained over the US government, let's not overlook), then beyond that they can extract more subsidy funds from other governments, the poorer of whom will soon need some bailout from the IMF as consequence. There would also exist the condition where concerns of human and environmental health would slide ever lower in priorities, the stance of "take it or leave it; it's our food or no food" being realistically  available to Monsanto at that point.


That is not paranoia folks, look how close they came to outlawing organic and nearly even home grown food in the US just recently.








drummer687 -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 2:18:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Conflicts of Interest: Why the ACS stresses treatment and screening over prevention

So what are the American Cancer Society's strategies for fighting cancer? Innocent Casualties author Elaine Feuer comments that the ACS is more intent on developing cancer treatments than preventing the disease. Feuer argues, "Instead of allotting money towards the prevention of cancer, the medical establishment prescribes chemotherapy and radiation (which can be very expensive and even toxic)."

Also contentious is the agency's emphasis on screening. Samuel S. Epstein, author of The Politics of Cancer, argues that the society's "priorities remain fixated on damage control -- screening, diagnosis, and treatment." Sure enough, the ACS' 2005 Cancer Prevention and Early Detection Facts and Figures report focuses primarily on screening. While screenings are valuable in helping people fight cancer, they do not prevent the disease. If decreasing the number of cancer fatalities is the first priority, why not prevent the disease before it starts?

Many critics of the American Cancer Society are quick to suggest its "vested interest" in the cancer industry, especially in chemotherapy and pharmaceutical treatments. Dr. Samuel Epstein, former head of a Congressional committee on cancer, has accused the ACS of foul play for years. Epstein claims that the ACS' "longstanding conflicts of interest with a wide range of industries, coupled with a systematic discrediting of evidence of avoidable causes of cancer" preclude many powerful life-saving initiatives.

In a debate this year, Dr. Michael Thun of the American Cancer Society did not deny the agency's connection to corporate interests. “The American Cancer Society views relationships with corporations as a source of revenue for cancer prevention,” said Dr. Thun. “That can be construed as an inherent conflict of interest, or it can be construed as a pragmatic way to get funding to support cancer control.”

So it is in fact true that the ACS' 22-member board was created in 1990 to solicit corporate contributions. It's also true that board members include Gordon Binder, who is the CEO of Amgen, a biotechnology company that sells chemotherapy products. Another board member, David R. Bethune, is president of Lederle Laboratories, a multinational pharmaceutical company and a division of American Cyanamid Company. In fact, many board members seemingly stand to make more money by treating cancer than preventing it.

But as Thun said, these relationships are "pragmatic" ways to garner funding. Money, according to The Chronicle of Philanthropy, is the name of the ACS' game. The Chronicle of Philanthropy is a watchdog organization that monitors major charities. After analyzing the ACS' budgets and programs, they concluded the agency is "more interested in accumulating wealth than saving lives."

Epstein argues that the ACS's financial ties with industry also skew its policies pertaining to environmental causes of cancer. In his new book, Cancer-Gate: How to Win the Losing War Against Cancer, Epstein claims the agency is willfully suppressing information about the environmental causes of cancer. Carcinogens can be found in pesticides, industrial pollution, materials used in plastic or reconstructive surgery, the water supply and many other everyday materials.

Corporations – some of which contribute to the American Cancer Society – profit handsomely while they pollute the air, water, and food with a wide range of carcinogens, endangering the lives of millions of people. Why is the ACS silent? Epstein says they are more interested in inflating their budget than waging war against industrial pollution.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/010244.html#ixzz1mTvdSOaL



I'm sorry but that didn't address the scientific statements from ACS at all. Impugning the source is a logical fallacy. If BGH is dangerous for humans, I'd like to know why and the research behind the claim.

People are making unsubstantiated claims about early puberty (while there's still no scientific consensus that it's even happening), "hormones" and more, all weaved together with anecdotes, conspiracy theories and logical fallacies.

Regarding conspiracies about "big business", I'm told that they'll never let any science out that will expose that they're intentionally killing their customers (seems bad for business to me) but on the other hand, there's supposedly a mountain of scientific studies to back all of this up.

I try to stay informed by constantly reading. If others are interested in science an reason, you may want to read Mendel in the Kitchen by geneticist Nina Federoff and Marie Brown. The authors do an excellent job of describing just what "genetically modified" means.





kitkat105 -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 2:19:32 PM)

Genetically modified food scares the crap out of me. Signed!




Edwynn -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 2:37:36 PM)



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ORIGINAL: drummer687

Here's a list of the synthetic compounds allowed in U.S. "organic" farming:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=f1312ca30770a8e585290633a1216a75&rgn=div8&view=text&node=7:3.1.1.9.32.7.354.2&idno=7




You DO realize that this publication from the Federal Register was supplied by the USDA, right? The agency that acts as enforcer for the agro-chem industry?

Yes, in fact the same agency that proposed use of toxic sludge and GMOs as 'organic' farming.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/bytes/ob214.htm

"As Under Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs at President Clinton's USDA, (Monsanto lobbyist) Siddiqui oversaw the release of the first-ever proposed federal standards for organics, an accomplishment the Obama White House has cited in support of his nomination. However, these rules created an uproar when USDA overruled recommendations of the National Organic Standards Board (NOSB) and recommended the use of GMOs, irradiation and toxic sludge under the organic label. After a nationwide coalition including the OCA and the National Campaign for Sustainable Agriculture Organic Committee deluged the USDA with 275,000 irate letters and emails, Siddiqui, Monsanto, and the USDA backed off."


Most people who are actually interested in organic produce are aware of this and have as little use for anything the USDA has to say about it as they would for what a used car dealer has to say about it.








kalikshama -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:01:15 PM)

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I'm sorry but that didn't address the scientific statements from ACS at all. Impugning the source is a logical fallacy. If BGH is dangerous for humans, I'd like to know why and the research behind the claim.


I was agreeing with TJ's position, not refuting your statement. For me, the "(in reply to..." will be accurate and I will use FR if I am fast replying to no one in general.




drummer687 -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:19:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

Genetically modified food scares the crap out of me. Signed!


Almost everything you eat has been "genetically modified" by humans at some point. Modern wheat and corn wouldn't exist or survive without human intervention. Apples are "unnatural" as well. Seedless fruit? All modified. The list is VERY long.

For the life of me, I don't understand why people think that laboratory modifications are more "dangerous" than other modifications. An altered gene is an altered gene. It will typically produce a modified or completely different protein for some desired trait. If not, it gets scrapped.

Examples: pest resistance so farmers can use less pesticide. Or higher nutrition or higher yield to feed more people on the same amount of land (more sustainable). Or to create hardier plants so people with less than ideal conditions can grow more food - locally.

These things are all tested - like many other things we eat plus all of the "genetically modified" things we consume like medicine. Insulin for diabetics? We get it from GMO!

We consume all kinds of chemicals everyday...how many in coffee and cigarettes? Or your favorite snack or fast food or ? We don't know "all possible chemical reactions" for any of these things so the "precautionary principle" is being applied very selectively.

I recently debated this topic with someone...while she sat drinking and smoking her cigarettes...LMFAO!







kalikshama -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:24:34 PM)

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I try to stay informed by constantly reading. If others are interested in science an reason, you may want to read Mendel in the Kitchen by geneticist Nina Federoff and Marie Brown. The authors do an excellent job of describing just what "genetically modified" means.


Mendel did not put fish genes in tomatoes! I have no problem with Mendel type hybridization but am not convinced of the safety of gene splicing.

Have you read Playing God in the Garden by Michael Pollan?




kalikshama -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:30:15 PM)

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fast food


Have not eaten since watching "Food, Inc." a few years back.




tj4444 -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:34:45 PM)

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tj444 -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:37:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: drummer687

While I'm not against "organic" food, I think there's some confusion regarding "organic" vs. "synthetic". Organic things (e.g. snake venom or poisonous plants) can be very "bad" for you too. And "organic" farming does use "synthetic" chemicals. I'd spend the money if I thought it was worth it but so far, I'm not sold.

Here's a list of the synthetic compounds allowed in U.S. "organic" farming:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=f1312ca30770a8e585290633a1216a75&rgn=div8&view=text&node=7:3.1.1.9.32.7.354.2&idno=7

umm,... I dont see rBGH on that list.. so to me a food that does not have rBGH in it is better than one that doesnt.. not that i trust the govt & usda any further than i can throw em..

have you ever heard of the dirty dozen? I juice veggies and i buy organic for that especially.. so while i will spend a little extra for the organic veggies i do buy, you can eat all the dirty and pesticide doused food you wish, its a free world.. [:-]

I still prefer to grow my own when i am able to, which has always been my position on food, but when i cant, then organic is still healthier to me than pesticide doused veggies and fruit.. One cant eliminate all the contaminants, but i would rather do my best to reduce them as much as possible rather than gobble up whatever agribiz & food mfrs shove out on the public as "food" and glow in the dark as a result..




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:43:07 PM)

Well, I am not sitting here drinking and smoking, and I don't have any trouble telling you that you are all wet.  Genetic modification, as used in this context means:

Genetic engineering, also called genetic modification, is the direct human manipulation of an organism's genome using modern DNA technology. It involves the introduction of foreign DNA or synthetic genes into the organism of interest. The introduction of new DNA does not require the use of classical genetic methods, however traditional breeding methods are typically used for the propagation of recombinant organisms. An organism that is generated through the introduction of recombinant DNA is considered to be a genetically modified organism. The first organisms genetically engineered were bacteria in 1973 and then mice in 1974. Insulin-producing bacteria were commercialized in 1982 and genetically modified food has been sold since 1994. The most common form of genetic engineering involves the insertion of new genetic material at an unspecified location in the host genome. This is accomplished by isolating and copying the genetic material of interest using molecular cloning methods to generate a DNA sequence containing the required genetic elements for expression, and then inserting this construct into the host organism. Other forms of genetic engineering include gene targeting and knocking out specific genes via engineered nucleases such as zinc finger nucleases or engineered homing endonucleases. Genetic engineering techniques have been applied in numerous fields including research, biotechnology, and medicine. Medicines such as insulin and human growth hormone are now produced in bacteria, experimental mice such as the oncomouse and the knockout mouse are being used for research purposes and insect resistant and/or herbicide tolerant crops have been commercialized. Genetically engineered plants and animals capable of producing biotechnology drugs more cheaply than current methods (called pharming) are also being developed and in 2009 the FDA approved the sale of the pharmaceutical protein antithrombin produced in the milk of genetically engineered goats.  
It is simply not true that everything we eat has been "genetically modified" at some point.  Certainly, humans have used selective breeding and hybridization for 1000s of years.  Not the same thing drummer.
You have made some intelligent points in this thread so far, but you certainly have lost me with this last groaner.  I am guessing the chick with the cigs and a drink in her hand won that particular debate?  You don't even seem to be clear about what you are debating about.

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ORIGINAL: drummer687


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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

Genetically modified food scares the crap out of me. Signed!


Almost everything you eat has been "genetically modified" by humans at some point. Modern wheat and corn wouldn't exist or survive without human intervention. Apples are "unnatural" as well. Seedless fruit? All modified. The list is VERY long.

For the life of me, I don't understand why people think that laboratory modifications are more "dangerous" than other modifications. An altered gene is an altered gene. It will typically produce a modified or completely different protein for some desired trait. If not, it gets scrapped.

Examples: pest resistance so farmers can use less pesticide. Or higher nutrition or higher yield to feed more people on the same amount of land (more sustainable). Or to create hardier plants so people with less than ideal conditions can grow more food - locally.

These things are all tested - like many other things we eat plus all of the "genetically modified" things we consume like medicine. Insulin for diabetics? We get it from GMO!

We consume all kinds of chemicals everyday...how many in coffee and cigarettes? Or your favorite snack or fast food or ? We don't know "all possible chemical reactions" for any of these things so the "precautionary principle" is being applied very selectively.

I recently debated this topic with someone...while she sat drinking and smoking her cigarettes...LMFAO!








drummer687 -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 3:57:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwynn



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ORIGINAL: drummer687

Here's a list of the synthetic compounds allowed in U.S. "organic" farming:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=f1312ca30770a8e585290633a1216a75&rgn=div8&view=text&node=7:3.1.1.9.32.7.354.2&idno=7




You DO realize that this publication from the Federal Register was supplied by the USDA, right? The agency that acts as enforcer for the agro-chem industry?

Yes, in fact the same agency that proposed use of toxic sludge and GMOs as 'organic' farming.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/bytes/ob214.htm

"As Under Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs at President Clinton's USDA, (Monsanto lobbyist) Siddiqui oversaw the release of the first-ever proposed federal standards for organics, an accomplishment the Obama White House has cited in support of his nomination. However, these rules created an uproar when USDA overruled recommendations of the National Organic Standards Board (NOSB) and recommended the use of GMOs, irradiation and toxic sludge under the organic label. After a nationwide coalition including the OCA and the National Campaign for Sustainable Agriculture Organic Committee deluged the USDA with 275,000 irate letters and emails, Siddiqui, Monsanto, and the USDA backed off."


Most people who are actually interested in organic produce are aware of this and have as little use for anything the USDA has to say about it as they would for what a used car dealer has to say about it.



Yes, I am familiar with the situation but opinions vary on what constitutes "organic" and standards vary by country. The standards initially proposed were obviously revised.

Once again, the post doesn't address the topic: the fact that "organic" farming uses "synthetic" chemicals. And once again, we have the fallacy of impugning the source.

And "enforcer for the agro-chem industry" = conspiracy theory
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If you want insight into the fascinating history of environmental hysteria and fear mongering read:

Confessions of a Green Peace Dropout by Patrick Moore, a founding member of Green Peace. (who'll undoubtedly immediately come under ad hominem attack). He's a scientist and an environmentalist.

You should also read The Skeptical Environmentalist and The Deniers, also written by an environmentalist.

The four books I've referenced stand on their own and there's nothing more I can say. But the books are great and offer tons of good info for the curious.




Edwynn -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 4:41:04 PM)



Reading about actual events as they transpired, given herewith, is also an excellent way to avoid hysteria, though not necessarily effective against stubborn willful ignorance.


Did you read who proposed the USDA rules? A Monsanto lobbyist. Do you know that Michael Taylor has worked for Monsanto and the FDA and has been back and forth between his employer and his government positions his whole career?

http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/ayurveda-health-wellbeing/967823-lies-deception-how-fda-does-not-protect-your-best-interests.html

Monsanto was required to submit a scientific
report on rBGH to the FDA so the agency could determine the growth hormone's
safety. Margaret Miller put the report together, and in 1989 shortly before she
submitted the report, Miller left Monsanto to work for the FDA. Guess what her
first job was? Strangely enough, to determine whether or not to approve the
report she wrote for Monsanto! The bottom line is that Monsanto approved its
own report. Miller was assisted by another former Monsanto researcher, Susan
Sechen.

... 

And as though the FDA
didn't already exhibit enough audacity it handed Michael Taylor the
responsibility to make the decision as to whether or not rBGH-derived milk
should be labeled. (At the time, Michael Taylor, who had previously worked as a
lawyer for Monsanto, was executive assistant to the Commissioner of the FDA.)In
1994, Taylor ended up writing the rBGH labeling guidelines that prohibit the
dairy industry from stating that their products either contain
or are free from rBGH. Even worse, to keep rBGH-milk from being "stigmatized"
in the marketplace, the FDA ruled that the labels of non-rBGH products must
state that there is no difference between rBGH and the natural
hormone. According to journalist Jennifer Ferraro, " while working for
Monsanto,Taylor had prepared a memo for the company as to whether or not it
would be constitutional for states to erect labeling laws concerning rBGH dairy
products. In other words, Taylor helped Monsanto figure out whether or not the
corporation could sue states or companies that wanted to tell the public that
their products were free of Monsanto's drug. "The current situationMonsanto is
suing Maine-based Oakhurst Dairy for labeling their milk " Our Farmers' Pledge:
No Artificial Growth Hormones. " According to Monsanto, Oakhurst Dairy does not
have the right to let its customers know whether its milk contains genetically
engineered hormones.

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So then, what 'conspiracy'? it's there in plain sight. Other than to the ideologically blind, that is. So then impugning the source constitutes a 'fallacy' in your book. Right. Not sure what adventuresome logic left you with that one.

No there is not perfect agreement as to the standards of organic farming, but there is near universal agreement by those considering these standards that, based on examples like the above, the USDA is essentially the mouthpiece of Monsanto and hardly qualified to be involved in the discussion.








DomKen -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 4:44:18 PM)

FR

The fact is that no matter where a gene comes from all it does is make a protein. If that protein is non toxic in one organism its non toxic in the new one too.

Very few foods we eat are not the result of extensive genetic modification. For instance cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, collards and brussel sprouts are all derived from the same ancestral plant.





Edwynn -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 4:56:41 PM)


Fine then. If it's all so safe then why all the deception and chicanery and insinuating themselves in every government position concerning the question by Monsanto?

That said, there is more to a substance than simple toxicity. As far as I am aware, a good number of things known to cause cancer, heart disease, birth defects and other maladies are not toxic.


I wonder who feels all warm and fuzzy about Monsanto's contribution to the food supply after reading this:

http://zeeinformation.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/monsanto-should-not-have-to-vouchsafe-the-safety-of-biotech-food-our-interest-is-in-selling-as-much-of-it-as-possible-assuring-its-safety-is-the-fdas-job/

“Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food…. Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the FDA’s job” —Phil Angell, Director of Corporate Communications, Monsanto, quoted in New York Times Magazine, October 25, 1998

Yes, and Margaret Miller's and Michael Taylor's FDA certainly did the job!


Sorry you didn't get the memo Phil, but your bosses actually have themselves well in position to do both jobs, TVM.










kalikshama -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 6:03:24 PM)

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kalikshama -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 6:13:52 PM)

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Eat your fruits and vegetables! The health benefits of a diet rich in fruits and vegetables outweigh the risks of pesticide exposure. Use EWG's Shopper's Guide to Pesticides to reduce your exposures as much as possible, but eating conventionally-grown produce is far better than not eating fruits and vegetables at all. The Shopper's Guide to Pesticide in Produce will help you determine which fruits and vegetables have the most pesticide residues and are the most important to buy organic. You can lower your pesticide intake substantially by avoiding the 12 most contaminated fruits and vegetables and eating the least contaminated produce.

Commodity crop corn used for animal feed and biofuels is almost all produced with genetically modified (GMO) seeds, as is some sweet corn sold for human consumption. Since GMO sweet corn is not labeled as such in US stores, EWG advises those who have concerns about GMOs to buy organic sweet corn.

The Dirty Dozen

Of the 12 most contaminated foods, 6 are fruits: apples, strawberries, peaches, domestic nectarines, imported grapes and domestic blueberries. Notable findings:

* Every sample of imported nectarines tested positive for pesticides, followed by apples (97.8 percent) and imported plums (97.2 percent).
* 92 percent of apples contained 2 or more pesticide residues‚ followed by imported nectarines (90.8 percent) and peaches (85.6 percent).
* Imported grapes had 14 pesticides detected on a single sample. Strawberries, domestic grapes both had 13 different pesticides detected on a single sample.
* As a category. peaches have been treated with more pesticides than any other produce, registering combinations of up to 57 different chemicals. Apples were next, with 56 pesticides and raspberries with 51.

Celery, spinach, sweet bell peppers, potatoes, lettuce and greens (kale and collards) are the vegetables most likely to retain pesticide contamination:

* Some 96 percent all celery samples tested positive for pesticides, followed by cilantro (92.9 percent) and potatoes (91.4 percent).
* Nearly 90 percent of celery samples contained multiple pesticides, followed by cilantro (70.1 percent) and sweet bell peppers (69.4 percent).
* A single celery sample was contaminated with 13 different chemicals, followed by a single sample of sweet bell peppers (11), and greens (10).
* Hot peppers had been treated with as many as 97 pesticides, followed by cucumbers (68) and greens (66).




Edwynn -> RE: Petition: mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (2/15/2012 6:15:48 PM)



Good one, kali! (commenting on the first chart). Quite extensive involvement there, well displayed all the jobs and positions of each player.

And that's just one industry.






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