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When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 4:23:38 PM   
curious23


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Specifically when you're not interested. I've ignored messages from guys I knew I wouldn't be interested in but I often just get re-messaged because they think I'm afk or not paying attention. So 1 of two things happen:
After ignoring a few messages, I finally respond telling him I'm not interested and then he usually says "Well you could have told me instead of ignoring my messages. I thought my messages weren't getting through."

Or

If I answer right away, saying I'm not interested, they say, "Well why the hell did you respond then?"

The only reason this is somewhat important to me is because there seems to be a lot of cynical/Jaded/angry men on here (especially older). This is already a lifestyle that includes a lot of vulnerability, especially from the subs. The last thing it needs is a Dom who is evil to them because of bad experiences.

Maybe someone has something they say that's short and sweet that does not offend if you aren't interested.
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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 4:26:41 PM   
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My advice?

Go with "Thanks but no thanks." and leave it at that. Some people will get the non-hint and move on. Some people are just born to be offended... they're good for block/ignore/whatever. The biggest thing, by far, is not to allow what you perceive as "cynical/jaded/angry" men to ruin your day. Honestly, one of the biggest red flags I have is women who feel the need to have 40 pages of disclaimer at the beginning of their profile. So whatever you do, try to be relaxed about it and remember that it's only some guys -- probably the ones that leave an impression.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 4:28:39 PM   
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Hey where you been!!!!  Hiding under a new profile.  Whats that now JeffBigCock?

LOL, Good to see ya.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 4:28:40 PM   
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Whether or not someone gets offended is out of your control and there is no one answer that will placate everyone, but a simple "Thank you, but I'm not interested." usually works.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 4:35:19 PM   
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You've stumbled upon one of the great dichotomies of this site. The guys say they want a reply and then they sabotage it when they get one. No reply is a reply, do they all answer everything that comes into their inbox or mailbox? That goes for junk mail or sale papers- there are places out there offering something these guys simply aren't interested in right? How about the obvious scams....do they answer those emails? Well why do women have to then answer emails that they are simply not interested in?

Sometimes I answer, sometimes I don't. Depends on how I feel. Sometimes I get a nice note in return, sometimes nothing, something abuse.

Once I got an introduction email, I wrote back to say no thank you and then the guy writes back and says could I trouble you to ask why you rejected me so quickly? I should have paid attention to a little voice then but I wrote back and said "You are 23 years older than I am and that won't work for me, my preferences are for a man closer to my own age." He proceeded to berate me and opened up another account with a name very similar to my own that wrote in the first person about how "I" would make men invest their time in me and then stomp on their feelings...etc. How I rejected people on trivial things. All after one stupid email.

You can't please everyone, just choose to do what makes you happy at the time.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 4:41:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Hey where you been!!!!  Hiding under a new profile.  Whats that now JeffBigCock?

Well, not exactly "hiding" seeing as it says so in my sig. I was just taking some time out to maximize my number of blowjobs in the real world. Carol got chapped lips though so I'm back to posting for a while till they heal up.


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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 4:43:02 PM   
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I dont read siglines.............but glad to see you. 

See how appropriate those messages were?  Folks?  a little back and forth.........no real harm...

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 5:19:39 PM   
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quote:


Maybe someone has something they say that's short and sweet that does not offend if you aren't interested.


Previously, there was a "canned" list of "instant replies" to do just that. I am not sure where that button went. But it does still show up when I view the site through an android device. The list had some less than steller replies, but whenever I got one, I knew it was a polite declination to Our letter.
I don't know if there is a one size fits all other than "no thanks". And even that will set some folks off. It is a no win situation. Don't fret about it too much.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 5:59:36 PM   
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Doesn't matter what you do, some guys can't get a clue if hit with a two by four.

In general, if you don't respond saying no thanks, you get less nasty comments.

I suggest setting up your bulk mail filter so guys who don't fit your age limits, distance requirements etc go straight to bulk mail and you won't even see them. You also can just hover over the mail and see the first line. If it's enough to let you know you don't want to talk to them, then delete it immediately. They can see that you didn't even read it.


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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 6:10:34 PM   
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It's appropriate to message back when you want to message back.

Only you can control what you do, but as you've found, you can't control whether the responses you get back make you feel good or not.

So if you do decide as a rule to respond "thanks, but no thanks", you could resolve not to open any further messages and know at least that you did respond. Continuing a conversation you don't want is all within your control.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 6:54:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomMeinCT

It's appropriate to message back when you want to message back.

Only you can control what you do, but as you've found, you can't control whether the responses you get back make you feel good or not.

So if you do decide as a rule to respond "thanks, but no thanks", you could resolve not to open any further messages and know at least that you did respond. Continuing a conversation you don't want is all within your control.


There is no rule that says you have message them at all. Hell, you don't even have to read the bloody things. You can delete them without even bothering to open them. It's YOUR email inbox. You don't owe any of these yahoos anything.


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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 7:26:13 PM   
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Welcome to the message board, curious!
As you have found, it's often a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
For those you would like to respond to, I find a polite "thank you for your message, but I
am not interested. Best of luck in your search
" works well. If they choose to be bothered by
that, take comfort in knowing they truly weren't right for you, and carry on.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 7:47:14 PM   
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Do whatever you wish at the time.

I usually say, "Thank you, I'll have to pass. Good luck in your search." Anything further from them...block/delete/no further reply.

There have been a few loony toons like Risktaker's above where they make another profile to harass. 'Deleted unread' has gotten rid of them every time.

After a while here, you'll find the formula that works best for you.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 7:51:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: curious23

Specifically when you're not interested. I've ignored messages from guys I knew I wouldn't be interested in but I often just get re-messaged because they think I'm afk or not paying attention. So 1 of two things happen:
After ignoring a few messages, I finally respond telling him I'm not interested and then he usually says "Well you could have told me instead of ignoring my messages. I thought my messages weren't getting through."

Or

If I answer right away, saying I'm not interested, they say, "Well why the hell did you respond then?"

The only reason this is somewhat important to me is because there seems to be a lot of cynical/Jaded/angry men on here (especially older). This is already a lifestyle that includes a lot of vulnerability, especially from the subs. The last thing it needs is a Dom who is evil to them because of bad experiences.

Maybe someone has something they say that's short and sweet that does not offend if you aren't interested.


I say, tell them you just discovered that you have terminal leprosy, but you're very interested in them....they appear to be exactly the kind of guy you're looking for....then tell them your ear just fell off "be right back....just a second".....then send them one more message "hey....where'd you go?"

(Something tells me they'll quit bothering you).

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 8:07:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomMeinCT

It's appropriate to message back when you want to message back.

Only you can control what you do, but as you've found, you can't control whether the responses you get back make you feel good or not.

So if you do decide as a rule to respond "thanks, but no thanks", you could resolve not to open any further messages and know at least that you did respond. Continuing a conversation you don't want is all within your control.


There is no rule that says you have message them at all. Hell, you don't even have to read the bloody things. You can delete them without even bothering to open them. It's YOUR email inbox. You don't owe any of these yahoos anything.



I agree and perhaps I should have said if you want to message back. She did seem to show the propensity to want to respond to messages.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/16/2012 9:39:06 PM   
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First, let me admit that this is coming from the perspective of a man getting messages from other men. So, that said, I completely understand that things may be different for women.

But, all of that aside, even when I was on more vanilla personals sites I always answered every email I got. I did that for two reasons. Primarily, I did it because I didn't like the feeling of being ignored when I was the one putting myself out there to make contact with someone. To me, being ignored was a cheap way out for other person.

Which, leads me to the second reason I always replied. It is a cheap way out because when you ignore an email, you don't have to deal with the fact that there is a real, living, feeling person on the other end. Sure, some of those people might be psychos who will just send a hateful reply when you say you aren't interested. But, for each one of those, I have found that there is another out there who will take a polite rejection quite well, and for whom being ignored is painful. I would rather ignore the hateful messages from the psychos, who would likely get mad anyway for not being taken up on their offers, than to potentially hurt the nice people who simply want their presence acknowledged.

When I left the other sites and joined CM, I brought that mentality with me. Though I haven't been here long, I have found it has worked quite well for me.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/17/2012 12:44:06 AM   
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I've tried it both ways, and both end precisely the same - the person disappears with no further message. Perhaps I'm not worth as much trouble as all that lol.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/17/2012 2:20:33 AM   
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As long as it remain respectful I will answer. Once it seems like a waste of my time I don't. they will keep sending to try to get a response but after awhile they get the idea. Delete all the messages and on to the next one.

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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/17/2012 6:24:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MDomCouple
But, for each one of those, I have found that there is another out there who will take a polite rejection quite well, and for whom being ignored is painful.


I have never gotten a polite response to rejection. So your experience and mine are very different.

What I have gotten after rejecting someone are numerous emails filled with vitriol, the nicest of which was 'your (sic) too fat to fuck' and the worst of which was a detailed account of how he proposed to kill me. The creepiest was a guy who sent email after email, all delusion based.

I have never gotten any of that when I haven't responded.

The other thing that men miss is that women have to listen to their instincts very carefully in this world to avoid rape. If I politely reject some guy in a bar who sends me over a drink, I will have him hassle me all night long. If I tell the bartender to please get rid of him for me, that won't happen and then I don't have to worry about being jumped after I leave.

These instincts, The Gift of Fear is a book that covers this, don't disappear just because we're online. The same guy who commits rape in the real world becomes an online stalker. They don't deserve politeness just because we're online.


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RE: When is it appropriate to message back? - 2/17/2012 8:03:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MDomCouple

First, let me admit that this is coming from the perspective of a man getting messages from other men. So, that said, I completely understand that things may be different for women.

But, all of that aside, even when I was on more vanilla personals sites I always answered every email I got. I did that for two reasons. Primarily, I did it because I didn't like the feeling of being ignored when I was the one putting myself out there to make contact with someone. To me, being ignored was a cheap way out for other person.

Which, leads me to the second reason I always replied. It is a cheap way out because when you ignore an email, you don't have to deal with the fact that there is a real, living, feeling person on the other end. Sure, some of those people might be psychos who will just send a hateful reply when you say you aren't interested. But, for each one of those, I have found that there is another out there who will take a polite rejection quite well, and for whom being ignored is painful. I would rather ignore the hateful messages from the psychos, who would likely get mad anyway for not being taken up on their offers, than to potentially hurt the nice people who simply want their presence acknowledged.

When I left the other sites and joined CM, I brought that mentality with me. Though I haven't been here long, I have found it has worked quite well for me.


I used to feel this way, that there was another person out there who deigned to take time out of their day to send me a message and then time, volume, and attitude wore me down from responding on a regular basis. Men may not understand what the sheer volume of mail is like for a woman on an adult site. Men outnumber women by a large margin on that type of site and they are generally not as specific about what they're looking for. So Mr. Iwantarelationship may have a LT relationship as his goal, but he'll take any casual encounters that come his way too. Women are generally more discriminating and look more for something LT. This has the effect that even if the gender numbers were balanced, there would be a much larger volume of mail going out from the men.

As a woman, getting the bazillion letters saying "Hi, how are you?" and then answering them, and always finding out at some point that you are being contacted solely for sex has made me very jaded about receiving mail here. Anytime now that a man contacts me outside of the forums I will almost assume it's for sex and I'm pretty much always right. Therefore I ignore email at times. Men get very testy and purport that the "Hi, how are you?" emails are just trying to 'get to know' a woman here, but really they want sex and that comes out. Forgive me if I don't feel like 'getting to know you' when I know you want something from me I'm not prepared to give. A caveat, this does not apply to the men I've had contact with from the forums- they generally are about getting to know me.

This hasn't even included the nasty responses to "No thank you," yet and boy do those suck. You can brush off a couple of them and with time and sheer number it gets really disheartening to be told nasty things over and over. As the recipient of the unasked for emails you become very wary of saying anything at all because you'll just get more abuse in return. We've done threads on the forums before on this subject and it seems to happen across the board to the women much more then the men ever think it does. I suppose the men get tired of being rejected, Im sure the uneven gender ratio comes into play here, and they lash out from their frustration.

In the end OP do what you like as you'll never win - so please yourself. There will always be those who say it's bad manners not to reply and they are not really familiar with what happens negatively when you do. There were times when I was looking that I elected to hide my profile because I just couldn't stand the vitriol being launched at me anymore. I did usually elect to respond to my emails then and now with many fewer of them I still generally elect to respond with the no thanks, but there are times I'm just tired of feeling like a punching bag and I delete unread or say nothing.

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