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DesideriScuri -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 4:20:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

which is why I wont argue semantic stuff about his"intent", its a coulda, woulda shoulda argument, Pffffft at that.
Derailing the topic is not gonna be furthered.
It belittles the issue of womens rights an people like Santorum


Sure, you won't argue semantics, you'll just blast away. Fuck his intent. Just interpret the way you want and let 'er rip! Therein lies the problem. I wonder what will happen when one of your comments gets taken out of context. I assume you'll not challenge the misinterpretation to set the record straight. Otherwise, that would be arguing about semantics.

And that would be hypocritical (on topic now! lol).





Lucylastic -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 9:53:50 AM)

Blast away????, you dont get out much do you, is that like me "hating" ...boyoh boy... , do you over compensate much?
you are responsible for YOUR comments, no one else.....its simple, if you make a mistake apologise, I do..theres nothing wimpy about apologising.Truly.
You can make a lot of assumptions about me and others... but Ive yet to see a correct one in your postings so far.
[8|]




DesideriScuri -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 11:17:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Blast away????, you dont get out much do you, is that like me "hating" ...boyoh boy... , do you over compensate much?
you are responsible for YOUR comments, no one else.....its simple, if you make a mistake apologise, I do..theres nothing wimpy about apologising.Truly.
You can make a lot of assumptions about me and others... but Ive yet to see a correct one in your postings so far.
[8|]


I do apologize when I am wrong. If the only person responsible for what Santorum says, is Santorum, are you going to give him his opportunity to respond? Of course not. That would only hinder your ability to gripe about him. Barring his showing up on this board, you are essentially stating that no one is allowed to defend his intent while you are allowed to denigrate it (without truly knowing what his intent was).




Moonhead -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 1:25:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I do apologize when I am wrong.

Not on here you don't.




BenevolentM -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 1:46:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

In the absence of a moral theory that explains everything without contradiction, any attempt to be moral entails hypocrisy. In the absence of such a theory, the rejection of hypocrisy with solidarity is to reject morality in its entirety.


I made a powerful statement here. The point is a puritanical rejection of hypocrisy is clearly illegitimate. What can legitimately be claimed is that it is excessive as in deviates substantially from what can be realistically achieved all things considered. In other words, it is a legitimate accusation to say that realistically all things considered that an individual or institution is lazy and the quality of their workmanship could improve.

Needless to say I am a philosopher.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 2:27:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Blast away????, you dont get out much do you, is that like me "hating" ...boyoh boy... , do you over compensate much?
you are responsible for YOUR comments, no one else.....its simple, if you make a mistake apologise, I do..theres nothing wimpy about apologising.Truly.
You can make a lot of assumptions about me and others... but Ive yet to see a correct one in your postings so far.
[8|]


I do apologize when I am wrong. If the only person responsible for what Santorum says, is Santorum, are you going to give him his opportunity to respond? Of course not. That would only hinder your ability to gripe about him. Barring his showing up on this board, you are essentially stating that no one is allowed to defend his intent while you are allowed to denigrate it (without truly knowing what his intent was).

my ability to gripe about him does not depend on him coming on to this board, Oh the beauty of free speech....but when its on a message board, you dont get to determine what I would say were I able to. What a Strange concept, having to give someone the benefit of doubt on what someone else swears he meant.
Im disagreeing with YOUR attempt to denigrate me. That I can respond to and disregard. I didnt state anything of the kind.. truly you are dreaming and dramatic.

Get over it...or not...




SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 7:19:31 PM)

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No, what I'm saying is: Einstein was an embarrassment; how many times must you be embarrassed before you learn your lesson?


I have a feeling you're keeping track of these alleged 'embarrassing moments" so why should I worry?
   BTW ... be sure to let us know when you fill that convertible with chicks. I mean the non-inflatable ones of course.
Lemme know if you need a lnk to a Barry White torrent or two[:D]




SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 7:23:35 PM)

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In the absence of a moral theory that explains everything without contradiction, any attempt to be moral entails hypocrisy. In the absence of such a theory, the rejection of hypocrisy with solidarity is to reject morality in its entirety.


The late great Philosopher Bill Janek had a saying about statements like this "Dude, get a grip. You're talking chickens and spaghetti at everybody"





SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 7:26:15 PM)

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Feeling more generous now. Hellraiser is a series of films. The regularity of the pins is obviously due to aesthetic considerations. A random pattern would suggest lack of design or intention. You flog a subbie, for example, to help get him or her off. It is a controlled, goal oriented activity. The activity is often if not usually governed by aesthetic considerations. You will often see, for example, subbies exhibiting photos of their wounds that depict a regular pattern.


Yep a bunch of screamers inside a house that acts like a rubic's cube with sharp edges forced to riddle with a dude with a head fuill of pins at some point in each installment ... lemme know if there was an actual point.





SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 7:30:19 PM)

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You're going to get on me to stay on topic? This thread would be halfway down it's first page if all the off-topic posts were deleted.

The post quoted above, however, IS on topic, as you, too, could be cited for failing to stay on topic.


Call a cop then... my posts are largely back and forth with the OP you're out accosting women about Rick Santorum... So forgive me for being nonplussed.





BenevolentM -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 7:33:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

BTW ... be sure to let us know when you fill that convertible with chicks. I mean the non-inflatable ones of course.

Lemme know if you need a lnk to a Barry White torrent or two[:D]


Do you have any idea how many women Einstein got? It is something to contemplate.

M = Fc^2

M equals F c squared.




SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 7:34:35 PM)

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Needless to say I am a philosopher.


That's one theory anyway




SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 7:43:44 PM)

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Do you have any idea how many women Einstein got? It is something to contemplate.
M = Fc^2
M equals F c squared.


Oooh lookie ... make-believe equations cute ....
ie - Einstein
Not really many for a guy who stunned the world. You wanna get lucky with physics blather you're better off hitting up Michio Kaku for tips ... when he comes to Cambridge he hangs with my homie Jonathan, who says the guy scores "like a fisherman with dynamite".





DesideriScuri -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 8:10:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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You're going to get on me to stay on topic? This thread would be halfway down it's first page if all the off-topic posts were deleted.

The post quoted above, however, IS on topic, as you, too, could be cited for failing to stay on topic.


Call a cop then... my posts are largely back and forth with the OP you're out accosting women about Rick Santorum... So forgive me for being nonplussed.




So, it matters only that you're going back and forth with the OP, not if the topic of discussion has anything to do with the original post. Gotcha.

Btw, that's hypocrisy in it's purest form. I have yet to accost anyone on here. I presented an alternative to her narrative, and it has gone on and on. I would enjoy knowing, however, how Hellraiser has anything to do with the OP's original post. Since Hellraiser is one of my favorite movies, I am quite interested in reading your response.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 8:18:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Blast away????, you dont get out much do you, is that like me "hating" ...boyoh boy... , do you over compensate much?
you are responsible for YOUR comments, no one else.....its simple, if you make a mistake apologise, I do..theres nothing wimpy about apologising.Truly.
You can make a lot of assumptions about me and others... but Ive yet to see a correct one in your postings so far.
[8|]


I do apologize when I am wrong. If the only person responsible for what Santorum says, is Santorum, are you going to give him his opportunity to respond? Of course not. That would only hinder your ability to gripe about him. Barring his showing up on this board, you are essentially stating that no one is allowed to defend his intent while you are allowed to denigrate it (without truly knowing what his intent was).

my ability to gripe about him does not depend on him coming on to this board, Oh the beauty of free speech....but when its on a message board, you dont get to determine what I would say were I able to. What a Strange concept, having to give someone the benefit of doubt on what someone else swears he meant.
Im disagreeing with YOUR attempt to denigrate me. That I can respond to and disregard. I didnt state anything of the kind.. truly you are dreaming and dramatic.

Get over it...or not...


I see, now. You want free speech, but you don't want someone who give an possible alternative to have free speech. Got it. Hypocrisy in action. Plus, at no time have I sworn that Santorum meant "man" as in Mankind." I merely pointed out that he could have meant it in that manner and whatever source you quoted may have made the mistake in not capitalizing the 'M' to point to that meaning. Are you going to tell me that there is no way that Santorum meant man as in human beings, but man as males of the species? Is that what you really think?

How my offering an alternative explanation denigrates you, I have no idea. Perhaps I am supposed to simply accept your analysis and skip down bubblegum lane lined with lollipops and cotton candy. I think you are getting to know me well enough to know that I don't do that.

Even if I was to denigrate you, how is it that I don't have free speech rights to do so?




SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 9:03:19 PM)

Wish I knew where I said I gave a shit if you "got me".
Oh, wait I didn't, did I?

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Btw, that's hypocrisy in it's purest form. I have yet to accost anyone on here. I presented an alternative to her narrative, and it has gone on and on. I would enjoy knowing, however, how Hellraiser has anything to do with the OP's original post. Since Hellraiser is one of my favorite movies, I am quite interested in reading your response.


Ummmmm this thread is in fact being led topically by an author who's claim is of expertise as a hypocrite.
   However that doesn't excuse your poor interpretation of the whole hellraiser subtopic in this thread. Before you go caterwauling about who's more wrong than yourself as an inadequate defense, perhaps you should have read and comprhended the entire thread.
   Woulda helped. Frankly, there have been a number of times I have gone way off topic here and when I realize it, I apologize instead of indicting others.





Lucylastic -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 9:23:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

I see, now. You want free speech, but you don't want someone who give an possible alternative to have free speech. Got it. Hypocrisy in action. Plus, at no time have I sworn that Santorum meant "man" as in Mankind." I merely pointed out that he could have meant it in that manner and whatever source you quoted may have made the mistake in not capitalizing the 'M' to point to that meaning. Are you going to tell me that there is no way that Santorum meant man as in human beings, but man as males of the species? Is that what you really think?

How my offering an alternative explanation denigrates you, I have no idea. Perhaps I am supposed to simply accept your analysis and skip down bubblegum lane lined with lollipops and cotton candy. I think you are getting to know me well enough to know that I don't do that.

Even if I was to denigrate you, how is it that I don't have free speech rights to do so?

YOU are the one conflating the issue, blasting me for misogyny, hate, and a few other things, you have made this into a huge thing... you are the issue, and with more than a few so far, and for much the same reason.
I have not said "sworn" or any number of words. Yet you continue to assume a great deal, based on YOUR words, that I havent even alluded to. If I want something said on my behalf, I WILL do it.. I will not continue this with you.
As I said, get over it..or not.




BenevolentM -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 9:24:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Needless to say I am a philosopher.


That's one theory anyway


It doesn't matter really. The proof is in the pudding. That said, you do seem a tad uncivil. Maybe it is because you are hyper and were the class clown. Like a monkey whose irriting, but adorable because he or she is so willing to apologize.

Do you realize the BS people often have to go through to get recognized? I'm been looking at some biographies. Once you are successful it gets to be a suck ass festival to put it rudely. Oh, I'll accept these honors from you when all you want to tell them is to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Shove that honor up your ass! Magic words moment. It's so hypocritical! Can't they be nicer? Were they abused as children or something? It would be nice to be in a position where I can influence public policy.


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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

... when he comes to Cambridge he hangs with my homie Jonathan, who says the guy scores "like a fisherman with dynamite".


I didn't know that. That's way cool. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. It is the dreams that keep you going til old age, then you get Viagra. I'm not sure I would know what to do with a female, but I do suppose that it isn't much different from riding a bicycle and if I did really forget I figure she could show me what to do.




SternSkipper -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/21/2012 9:35:18 PM)

You make some good points... though I've got to get some sleep. I will definitely respond to two points you're making tomorrow.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Hypocrisy or Obsession (2/22/2012 5:28:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

I see, now. You want free speech, but you don't want someone who give an possible alternative to have free speech. Got it. Hypocrisy in action. Plus, at no time have I sworn that Santorum meant "man" as in Mankind." I merely pointed out that he could have meant it in that manner and whatever source you quoted may have made the mistake in not capitalizing the 'M' to point to that meaning. Are you going to tell me that there is no way that Santorum meant man as in human beings, but man as males of the species? Is that what you really think?

How my offering an alternative explanation denigrates you, I have no idea. Perhaps I am supposed to simply accept your analysis and skip down bubblegum lane lined with lollipops and cotton candy. I think you are getting to know me well enough to know that I don't do that.

Even if I was to denigrate you, how is it that I don't have free speech rights to do so?

YOU are the one conflating the issue, blasting me for misogyny, hate, and a few other things, you have made this into a huge thing... you are the issue, and with more than a few so far, and for much the same reason.
I have not said "sworn" or any number of words. Yet you continue to assume a great deal, based on YOUR words, that I havent even alluded to. If I want something said on my behalf, I WILL do it.. I will not continue this with you.
As I said, get over it..or not.


I refer you to post#66, where you said this:

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What a Strange concept, having to give someone the benefit of doubt on what someone else swears he meant.


While technically, you did not say "sworn," you did state that I swore on what Santorum meant.

You can decide to take your ball gag and go home, ignore me, or, perish the thought, actually address my statements instead of browbeating me for having the audacity to offer a contrary option.




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