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DesideriScuri -> RE: Georgia Law Could Give Death Penalty for Miscarriages (2/23/2012 9:43:54 AM)
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
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Unless *all* child abuse is sexual abuse, the two are not interchangeable. When you take into consideration that almost all sexual child abuse is child rape, that still does not make all child abuse, child rape. So, going to one of the most heinous examples of child abuse to make your point is ridiculous and over the top.
Such naked hypocrisy.
You are trying to justify State policing of miscarriages on the grounds that some miscarriages are "potentially abusive". Of the (probably) millions of miscarriages that occur annually, only a tiny proportion could, using your criteria, qualify as "potentially abusive". This is the logic on which your entire argument is constructed - using a tiny number of "the most heinous example(s)" to justify your case. Your current claim is that such tactics are "ridiculous and over the top." If this claim has any validity, your entire argument fails by the same logic. Your position is condemned by your own words and logic.
The devious and dishonest argument you present would not arise if abortion was illegal. Everyone knows this proposal was initiated because the anti-abortion crowd won't accept Roe vs Wade. So why can't you admit that instead of presenting false, contradictory and misleading arguments, and then having the sheer gall to try to pass them off as based in morality or genuine concern for children. If and when you do admit that, you might just might be in a position to make judgements about the honesty of others. Until this admission is forthcoming, and the real motives for this vile proposal are openly declared, any judgements coming from people advocating this vicious attack on women are simply further exercises in duplicity and hypocrisy.
tweakabelle, I don't support the requirement to report all miscarriages. I would only support the requirement to report miscarriages that a medical professional considers "un-natural." Miscarriages that are considered to be caused "naturally," would not need to be reported. Just like all injuries to a child do not carry a reporting requirement. Only those injuries that indicate possible child abuse situations are required to be reported.
Further, I've already said that abortions are legal and should be accessible to women. Thus, choosing to abort a pregnancy by getting an abortion in a medical center would not qualify as an un-natural miscarriage caused by potential abuse.
Here's yet another interesting wrinkle. Reporting a potential abuse-induced miscarriage isn't necessarily being blamed on the mother. The miscarriage would be reported (if the health professional believes it may have been caused by abuse), including causative factors, which could include physical attacks on the mother by someone else, car accident, possible poisoning, etc.
It wouldn't be all miscarriages. It wouldn't necessarily include elected abortions, either.
But, do continue to try to nail me down to your rhetoric.
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