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tj444 -> RE: students fined for untied shoelaces (2/21/2012 5:06:13 PM)
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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
tj444, I completely understand what you are saying. But do you think it would really make sense to structure a country's entire school system to be geared towards those who are mavericks? By definition a maverick is someone who has very independent views, or who doesn't fit into the conventional. If you geared all of education to them, I think you would fail society as a whole.
I consider Warren Buffett and Bill Gates to both be entrepreneurs. But they were both disciplined students in grade school. They both graduated from high school. They weren't children who had disciplinary issues when they were growing up. Gates dropped out of Harvard to found Microsoft - not because he couldn't do well at Harvard, but he already had his idea, and wanted to start. Buffett ended up going to Columbia for business school - and it was during his graduate degree that he met his financial mentor. Both these men are considered classic American entrepreneurs. But they were both able to function in a school environment, and, in fact, attend some of the top universities in the country. So again, let us not confuse entrepreneurship with an inability to get through high school. Graduating from high school does not mean someone is only fit to be a cog in a wheel. Is that really what you think of ALL high school graduates? Because the school that we are discussing in this thread is grade school. Not college. I understand you stopped after a year of college. But are you actually suggesting you would be better off if you had dropped out of high school? If you are, then fine. But I think a high school degree (or some other technical equivalent) is tremendously helpful to most people. Even those who seek out technical training after high school usually benefit from their grade school education (some level of reading, mathematics and communication skills really are necessary in the real world).
I had good grades in school too but I had a very different viewpoint as a child.. There were times when I disagreed with the answer to a particular question in a test or assignment,.. there is not always only one right answer, imo.. the system teaches kids to just learn how to answer tests well.. and to not look beyond that one right answer.. I also considered school as a glorified babysitting service.. I sat thru classes asking myself why i had to re-learn things i had just finished learning.. guess the school system thinks kids minds go blank and all is forgotten after a few months of summer break.. Imo, they could have taught twice as much as they did in the same time,.. imo, kids should graduate from high school with a college level education for the time they spend in school.. I also think school fails kids in that they arent taught about real life and how to do well in their personal life (like balancing a check book, budgeting, relationships, etc), not just how to work for someone else.. And some might argue that is stuff parents should teach their kids these things but parents that are poor may not have that or the best knowledge to pass on..
As i said in my first post on this thread, i think a certain level of discipline is good but imo this school takes things too far.. as said by others, for a school to fine to the tune of $190,000 in one year for fines, imo, their motives are just as much about financial profit.. I am not against learning, i am very much for it, but at the same time, I would want any kids of mine to grow up to be free thinkers and not punished by the school system for that..
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