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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/24/2012 2:50:21 PM   
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Perhaps you weren't paying attention KoM. She has already told us Doms what opinion we were to have. I'm afraid your input here is non-constructive.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/24/2012 3:06:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: girlbri

i NEVER asked anyone to condemn anyone...i was asking opinions of the Dominants. Could someone please tell me how to stop this thread? i'm not going to be attacked and told i'm just wanting sympathy.




You did get a lot of opinions, although I'm not sure how another Dominant man's opinion would matter in this situation. Either you're ok with things or you're not. It sounds as though you're not, why would you need reassurance from a Dom who isn't you if you already know how you feel?

For the record, 24 people said they would have been there or wanted their partner there. 8 needed more information or said it's not a question of whether or not he was wrong, but maybe more a question of he and you were matching up as a couple. 2 people said to suck it up.

How can you imagine with those numbers that people are being mean and attacking you? Are you that fragile that you honestly can't bear 2 people taking his side? I mean this board does contain the general public where people have many differing opinions, how could there not be an opposing view...right? For the record I'm not even harboring a mean thought in my head while writing this, but rather wondering if you and I are reading the same thread first of all, and wondering if you should even be on the internet in your emotionally fragile state second of all.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/25/2012 6:15:41 AM   
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During the other times you have been in hospital, has he arrived early when you have been there? What has his previous hospital behaviour been like in regards to your hospital visits?

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/25/2012 8:27:44 AM   
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Would I want someone in the ER with me? Meh. I guess it depends. For the more serious, scary stuff (Possible meningitis, car crash injuries, etc.), I would definitely want my significant other there, and would be furious if he didn't drop everything to be with me. But for the more minor stuff? Maybe a broken collarbone or a broken nose? Nah. It would be nice to have him there, just because the emergency room is boring as hell and with a more minor injury, you could be waiting over seven hours to see a doctor (I volunteer in the emergency room). But he's got stuff to. He has a job, other commitments, etc. I am a big girl, and I can handle that stuff alone if I need to.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/25/2012 9:12:40 AM   
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Not read the other replies, but since I have had some serious hospital emergency situations and one really big issue a few years ago where my EX did not support me in any way that would demonstrate he cared, I have to say that any man who does not show up to help or just be there is a complete ass and should be kicked to the curb.

There is NO EXCUSE for not being there for someone experiencing medical issues. And yes, I am a strong woman who can take of herself but guess what? We all need support during those scary times.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/26/2012 12:29:34 AM   
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I stand by my earlier reply, and I do share sexyred's feelings that not matching up well on this issue with a prospective s-type, would be a deal-breaker for me.

I'm just the kind of control-freak (and educated, certified, experienced medical professional) who will always want to be intimately involved in every aspect of my slave's health and medical care- and I want him equally closely involved in mine, as well.

....Because sick and injured people are often not their own best advocates- by virtue of the illnesses and injuries themselves. Its hard enough to advocate well for your own proper care, by others when you are ill and injured.

You may be in no shape to be able to get much done, for yourself - because of the compromised physical state you are in- and the fear, confusion, fatigue, pain, shock, etc. that you are going through. So its often a smart, meaningful choice to have someone there for you, by your bedside, who can see things from a point of view that's different from yours, or the doctors. In short, such a person may be able to help you get things done, that you need done- either better, faster, or at all- than you would if it were just you all alone in your hospital bed.

Such an advocate can help make sure that vital information about you or your care, gets passed along properly at shift-change, for example. Another example: if you are really out of it or in a lot of pain, or sleeping, and a tech comes to do a procedure (one that won't help your pain) the advocate can see if maybe its time for your pain meds, or for the dossage to be increased- and the procedure can wait until the meds provide some relief. Or if you're just sleeping, its possible your advocate can delay the tech's procedure for a little while so you can rest.

Having someone with you who is mentally alert can be a big help in the kinds of situations where pain, fear, confusion, blood loss, shock, fatigue, etc. has compomised your ability to think straight. Your advocate will be able to help you and your medical professionals make sense to one another, by serving as a go-between: teasing out needed information for you, and helping make sure your agenda for your care is properly addressed with each interaction.

In summation, it may not be a deal-breaker for others if their significant other won't accompany them to medical appointments- maybe that's just not their thing. And if a patient has a close friend or relative who can perform the duties, who has the time and wants to: they may be a much better choice.

For example: Janie's boyfriend Jon-Jon is a big, dull beefalo who isn't smart, doesn't have very good interpersonal skills, and hates hospitals. He loves Janie, and treats her well, but he hates to see her so ill, or so injured- because its hard for him to see her suffer that way. So he doesn't come to see her much while she's in the hospital because him being so upset, only makes her more upset at a time she needs to stay calm, relax and rest. But Janie's (mother, best friend, sister -whatever- you fill in the blank________) is a medical professional, or knows a lot about medicine and has great communication, and people skills and would love to be there for her during her time of need. She'd consider it a privilege to be allowed to proactively help Janie through this time, spending long hours at her side, helping her get her needs met and be as comfortable, and get as much rest as she can.....

Obviously THAT is who should be helping Janie in her time of need- not Jon-Jon. So in this sort of situation, I'd say go ahead and keep Jon-Jon in your life as long as you want, Janie- but make sure your willing medical advocate (whether its your mother, sister, friend- whatever) is one who is comfortable and happy in that role- and that you do have one, for those times you're in need.

So, OP: got anyone else living nearby, who loves you and might happily fulfill the role of medical advocate for you?

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/26/2012 5:24:19 AM   
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quote:

You are not looking for actual answers to your question.
You are looking for sympathy and pats on the back that scream 'you poor poor thing'


While there is a really good chance you are right. Is that so terrible? Personally I think everyone needs a little sympathy and a pat on the back once in a while.

to the op... I would never let my partner go to the hospital alone unless there was no way for me to be there. And in that case I would do everything I could to make sure someone else could go in my place.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 1:10:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

I stand by my earlier reply, and I do share sexyred's feelings that not matching up well on this issue with a prospective s-type, would be a deal-breaker for me.

I'm just the kind of control-freak (and educated, certified, experienced medical professional) who will always want to be intimately involved in every aspect of my slave's health and medical care- and I want him equally closely involved in mine, as well.

....Because sick and injured people are often not their own best advocates- by virtue of the illnesses and injuries themselves. Its hard enough to advocate well for your own proper care, by others when you are ill and injured.

You may be in no shape to be able to get much done, for yourself - because of the compromised physical state you are in- and the fear, confusion, fatigue, pain, shock, etc. that you are going through. So its often a smart, meaningful choice to have someone there for you, by your bedside, who can see things from a point of view that's different from yours, or the doctors. In short, such a person may be able to help you get things done, that you need done- either better, faster, or at all- than you would if it were just you all alone in your hospital bed.

Such an advocate can help make sure that vital information about you or your care, gets passed along properly at shift-change, for example. Another example: if you are really out of it or in a lot of pain, or sleeping, and a tech comes to do a procedure (one that won't help your pain) the advocate can see if maybe its time for your pain meds, or for the dossage to be increased- and the procedure can wait until the meds provide some relief. Or if you're just sleeping, its possible your advocate can delay the tech's procedure for a little while so you can rest.

Having someone with you who is mentally alert can be a big help in the kinds of situations where pain, fear, confusion, blood loss, shock, fatigue, etc. has compomised your ability to think straight. Your advocate will be able to help you and your medical professionals make sense to one another, by serving as a go-between: teasing out needed information for you, and helping make sure your agenda for your care is properly addressed with each interaction.

In summation, it may not be a deal-breaker for others if their significant other won't accompany them to medical appointments- maybe that's just not their thing. And if a patient has a close friend or relative who can perform the duties, who has the time and wants to: they may be a much better choice.

For example: Janie's boyfriend Jon-Jon is a big, dull beefalo who isn't smart, doesn't have very good interpersonal skills, and hates hospitals. He loves Janie, and treats her well, but he hates to see her so ill, or so injured- because its hard for him to see her suffer that way. So he doesn't come to see her much while she's in the hospital because him being so upset, only makes her more upset at a time she needs to stay calm, relax and rest. But Janie's (mother, best friend, sister -whatever- you fill in the blank________) is a medical professional, or knows a lot about medicine and has great communication, and people skills and would love to be there for her during her time of need. She'd consider it a privilege to be allowed to proactively help Janie through this time, spending long hours at her side, helping her get her needs met and be as comfortable, and get as much rest as she can.....

Obviously THAT is who should be helping Janie in her time of need- not Jon-Jon. So in this sort of situation, I'd say go ahead and keep Jon-Jon in your life as long as you want, Janie- but make sure your willing medical advocate (whether its your mother, sister, friend- whatever) is one who is comfortable and happy in that role- and that you do have one, for those times you're in need.

So, OP: got anyone else living nearby, who loves you and might happily fulfill the role of medical advocate for you?


I agree with you. However this was not the case she was having a procedure done that she had many times before. She didn't need a advocate she wanted her hand held. Furthermore he showed up. The OP is a drama queen

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 3:52:22 PM   
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Hi girlbri. Of course the Master should be more concerned with his subs' well being. After all, she is his responsibility.
But.....is this really a M/s relationship? I only ask because you say "Masters/boyfriend". M/s is not boyfriend/girlfriend.
It's much more involved and loving than a bf/gf relationship ever could be.
I can see a bf not showing up, I can see a Dom not showing up. But a Master should be more concerned.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 4:03:39 PM   
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Hi girlbri. Of course the Master should be more concerned with his subs' well being. After all, she is his responsibility.
But.....is this really a M/s relationship? I only ask because you say "Masters/boyfriend". M/s is not boyfriend/girlfriend.
It's much more involved and loving than a bf/gf relationship ever could be.
I can see a bf not showing up, I can see a Dom not showing up. But a Master should be more concerned.



Um... no, not in my opinion. What says that a master is or should be better than a dom or a boyfriend? I think they all should be amazing. There is no higher/better than or anything else to it. If you care about someone, you do what a caring person would. Whether that be show up at a hospital or teach her something in not showing up or coming in late. To basically say that a relationship of bf/gf isn't as involved as a master/slave relationship is discriminatory, lacking in good judgment in my opinion and sounds like some real ego has far too much of a place.

WTF... is with the degrading others to make someone else higher/better or anything else?


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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 5:04:15 PM   
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Hi girlbri. Of course the Master should be more concerned with his subs' well being. After all, she is his responsibility.
But.....is this really a M/s relationship? I only ask because you say "Masters/boyfriend". M/s is not boyfriend/girlfriend.
It's much more involved and loving than a bf/gf relationship ever could be.
I can see a bf not showing up, I can see a Dom not showing up. But a Master should be more concerned.



While I see your point, I think there is also an issue of different folks using different words. Had a hilarious discussion with a young lady about "daddy-doms," where she thought it just meant master but nicer, then I told her about diaper play...
LOL

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 5:10:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NtwoU

Hi girlbri. Of course the Master should be more concerned with his subs' well being. After all, she is his responsibility.
But.....is this really a M/s relationship? I only ask because you say "Masters/boyfriend". M/s is not boyfriend/girlfriend.
It's much more involved and loving than a bf/gf relationship ever could be.
I can see a bf not showing up, I can see a Dom not showing up. But a Master should be more concerned.



This is incredibly ignorant. Why do you think every person has to conform to what your view of these concepts are? Um, sure, there are bf/gf's out there that are Master and slave. Why would a Master and slave be more 'loving' and involved than a bf/gf relationship? What a load of crap. The statement of bf's, Dom's, and Master's showing up or not is more ignorance.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 5:13:58 PM   
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While I see your point, I think there is also an issue of different folks using different words. Had a hilarious discussion with a young lady about "daddy-doms," where she thought it just meant master but nicer, then I told her about diaper play...
LOL


To some people Daddy Doms are nicer Masters. There are a whole bunch of people out there who interpret Daddy Dom according to what fits them and diapers have nothing to do with it. It's not just different folks using different words, it's interpreting the words to reflect yourself.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 5:15:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

While I see your point, I think there is also an issue of different folks using different words. Had a hilarious discussion with a young lady about "daddy-doms," where she thought it just meant master but nicer, then I told her about diaper play...
LOL


To some people Daddy Doms are nicer Masters. There are a whole bunch of people out there who interpret Daddy Dom according to what fits them and diapers have nothing to do with it. It's not just different folks using different words, it's interpreting the words to reflect yourself.


No, I agree with you...
Actually, that was my point...

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 5:18:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

While I see your point, I think there is also an issue of different folks using different words. Had a hilarious discussion with a young lady about "daddy-doms," where she thought it just meant master but nicer, then I told her about diaper play...
LOL


To some people Daddy Doms are nicer Masters. There are a whole bunch of people out there who interpret Daddy Dom according to what fits them and diapers have nothing to do with it. It's not just different folks using different words, it's interpreting the words to reflect yourself.


No, I agree with you...
Actually, that was my point...


Oh, ok, I guess I still don't get that from your post - I must have missed something then.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 5:26:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: girlbri

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and opinion..i really do appreciate it :) i'm just hurt and wanted to see if my feelings were valid..not to stir up controversy.


Every feeling is valid. Every emotional response that everyone gets is true and real. The point of contention is what you choose to do about it, and how the people around you choose to react to it.

What it comes down to is clearly you and him have different values, as people often do. To you the situation may have rated a 9 and he might have thought it was a 4. The real question is what do you do about it? Can you accept that he views these situations as a 4? Do you need him to consider them a 9? Or should you both compromise and look at it as a 7?

My personal perspective as a Domme with people in my life that I care about frequenting the ER, hospitals are boring and one of the best environments to make someone like me feel useless. I see little point in cluttering up the ER if I cannot be of direct help, this regardless of whether or not I want to be there, is the basis on which I form my decision of when to go and how long to stay. I don't generally turn up to the ER unless I'm taking people in, dropping them off, or they're going to be there more than 6 hours: I've learnt from experience with hospitals in my local area that if they can kick you out in less than 6 hours you're not in immediate medical danger and I'm just going to be in the nurses' way (it used to be 4 where I used to live, so adjust accordingly). Of course if they admit you to the wards, that's different.

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 2/28/2012 7:00:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

While I see your point, I think there is also an issue of different folks using different words. Had a hilarious discussion with a young lady about "daddy-doms," where she thought it just meant master but nicer, then I told her about diaper play...
LOL


To some people Daddy Doms are nicer Masters. There are a whole bunch of people out there who interpret Daddy Dom according to what fits them and diapers have nothing to do with it. It's not just different folks using different words, it's interpreting the words to reflect yourself.


No, I agree with you...
Actually, that was my point...


Oh, ok, I guess I still don't get that from your post - I must have missed something then.


Yeah, looking back at it I can see I was unclear.
I was trying to point out that she had one experience with someone who called himself a "Daddy-Dom," and I had a different experience with a young woman who was looking for a "Daddy-Dom." Both were very different. I did not intend for my original post to seem like I thought the other person was wrong. The part that was hilarious was that it was her first exposure to diaper play. Still laugh at her reaction...
(which was also not wrong, just funny as heck).

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 3/9/2012 4:16:14 PM   
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It would depend on the nature of the relationship.....a serious LTR with emotional ties, makes all the difference.....if your partner, is in all other aspects of your life, then he should be there, as physical, emotional (and as a Dom to) support you when you may be at your most vulnerable state...someone else making serious decisions for you when your not quite sure how to defend yourself........I beleive a "Good" Dom would be there,

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RE: slave needing Dominants POV - 3/9/2012 6:58:54 PM   
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People rarely talk about the responsibilities of Masters/Doms. Mostly you hear, "It's my way or the highway." However this is a situation where it most certainly is his responsibility.

TANSTAAFL. This is what all those backrubs, blowjobs and sammiches cost.

Protecting his slave, even if it's just from her own fears of a routine procedure, is absolutely his job.

Please notice that that last sentence had a period at the end, not a question mark.

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