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LaTigresse -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:15:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
What if Dommes like Privileged or Saharah Eve are looking for slaves, and not "relationships"? Does that make them any less real?


No, it just makes them American, Roch.



Peon, that is lame at best.




Rochsub2009 -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:15:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
What if Dommes like Privileged or Saharah Eve are looking for slaves, and not "relationships"? Does that make them any less real?


No, it just makes them American, Roch.




Well, I don't think that either of them will deny that.

BTW, where is FetishEden when I need her? I'm sure she'd have something to add to this discussion.




PeonForHer -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:29:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
s them American, Roch.



Peon, that is lame at best.


When I want to do 'lame', I go for it, La T. That's the kind of guy I am.




SaharahEve -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:36:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
s them American, Roch.

Peon, that is lame at best.


When I want to do 'lame', I go for it, La T. That's the kind of guy I am.


We are well aware, Peon.




PeonForHer -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:38:16 PM)

Is that the royal 'We', Saharah? [;)]




PeonForHer -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:43:30 PM)

Now here's a competition for you, Saharah. I mean it most earnestly.

If you and I were to meet, I reckon I could make you want to be my friend, as an equal, before you could make me want to be your slave with you as my Goddess. And you'd be glad that I'd won, too. What do you think? ;-)




LaTigresse -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:51:28 PM)

Peon, here's a clue for you.

Do you have ANY IDEA how many guys approach women with some variation of that line?




SaharahEve -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:52:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Now here's a competition for you, Saharah. I mean it most earnestly.

If you and I were to meet, I reckon I could make you want to be my friend, as an equal, before you could make me want to be your slave with you as my Goddess. And you'd be glad that I'd won, too. What do you think? ;-)


Nice fantasy! ;-)




mnottertail -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:55:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Peon, here's a clue for you.

Do you have ANY IDEA how many guys approach women with some variation of that line?


How come if you wont be my sex slave I will icepick the dogfuck outta you line doesn't work, can't be many using that one.




LaTigresse -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 1:59:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Peon, here's a clue for you.

Do you have ANY IDEA how many guys approach women with some variation of that line?


How come if you wont be my sex slave I will icepick the dogfuck outta you line doesn't work, can't be many using that one.


Maybe it's because they are not old enough to know what an icepick is......?




PeonForHer -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:07:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SaharahEve
Nice fantasy! ;-)


Nup, it's a reality. I've done it many times before. I'm not the one fantasising, here.







PeonForHer -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:11:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Peon, here's a clue for you.

Do you have ANY IDEA how many guys approach women with some variation of that line?


Yes - but this guy doesn't want to have sex with the target. Note this post. Bottom right is the post number and web link.




LaTigresse -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:19:28 PM)

Sorry, no web link in the bottom right on my screen.




PeonForHer -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:26:13 PM)

Grrrr.

Bottom right, under my post, you'll see 'Post', plus the hash key, in green. Click that and copy the web address. That's the link to my post. Or just copy this script:

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4047997





LaTigresse -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:33:08 PM)

Mmmmmmmmk.

Regardless.......you are fighting a battle you will never win.




Lockit -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:33:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SaharahEve


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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

Another Collarme thread of "your kink is not my kink so YOUR KINK IS WRONG!". Great jobs, Fornica and others.


Agreed. It's worth repeating that financial exploitation is indeed a "kink," and some people get very "hot and bothered" over it—in a good way, that is. Aside of that, some of us do practice consensual slavery, and the financial aspect by virtue of this gets taken into account, of course.


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ORIGINAL: hangemhigh1953
So you admit you enjoy it. Yet you demand to be paid before you will choose to enjoy it? And you will only do it if you can freeload off your partners?


I enjoy exploiting my slaves, yes. What, you have a problem with that? Tough shit. And "partners?" LOL. Who said anything about partners? I was talking about slaves who serve and adore me. I know...slave might as well mean "hubby" to many here, but I invite exploration outside of those bounds, to say the very least.


I'm glad to hear you are far more open minded and fair minded than some, when it comes to my kink isn't your kink and lets all be respectful. Personally I do like how you have presented a number of things and have been fair... but would you mind explaining how this post by you plays into that fairness and respect for the kink of others?

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4046567

Fair is fair. If some are going to be called out for being unfair and disrespecting the kink of another... then wouldn't it be fair to question why you were not able to provide the same fairness towards the kink of others?

We all say things off the cuff or flippantly or may say something that sounds worse than we meant it to... it happens, I am guilty of it myself. However, if we are going to call out others... it is only fair to call you out on what you have said.




PeonForHer -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:35:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Mmmmmmmmk.

Regardless.......you are fighting a battle you will never win.


Gawd, La T, wake up! I already *have* won it . . . .




LadyHibiscus -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:36:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
Those who are owned by Ms. Eve are there of their own volition. She provides something that is highly valued by those who serve Her. And they, in turn, serve Her loyally (and financially).

While Her particular brand of D/s (or more accurately, M/s) is not for everyone, I think that many (most?) dominant women could learn from Her example. It amazes me that more Dommes don't emulate Her.


Seriously, Roch, what on earth was all that about? Even if they wanted it, most women couldn't afford to get all the requisite cosmetic surgery even on their knockers. And what happens when a woman wants a man to talk to, as opposed to just a slobbering sub-kinkster? And what about when her tits start to droop and she develops grey hair and wrinkles? Or she accidentally farts?

Pfft. I don't know. The fantasy world is so, so different from the world of relationships. Too far away for me to understand, I'm afraid.




And this is why you are my Darling, instead of some random geezer with a black Amex card.

Ms Eve is great at what she does, and she's happy with the life she's chosen. That life wouldn't work for me, and it wouldn't work for most women I know. I have to actually *like* the people who are serving me, whether they are serving me in the D/s sense, or if they are employees. I have to relate to them as one human to another, not as property that is there at my whim.

Why would you see her as someone to emulate, Roch? I couldn't be that cold and be content with myself--it's just not "me", it's not my worldview, and it's not how I want my friends to behave. The ones emulating Ms Eve--and doing a piss-poor job--are those 19 year old gannets trumpeting their wishlists.

In answer to why "so many doms" are agitated at financial doms... well, I think it's because there ARE so many women out there with their hands out offering nothing in return. It's at the point where a man will feel financially exploited if he picks up the tab at dinner. There have been many discussions on that topic, and in my mind, they all lead back to that truism about money being power.





LaTigresse -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:39:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Mmmmmmmmk.

Regardless.......you are fighting a battle you will never win.


Gawd, La T, wake up! I already *have* won it . . . .


I am plenty awake. You continue pissing and moaning every time the topic comes up.

The topic keeps coming up, you keep pissing and moaning and guess what...... guys still get off on giving women money. Women still keep getting off on dominating men financially. Regardless of your pissing and whining.

If that's a win, I'd hate to see what you consider losing a debate.




LaTigresse -> RE: new slave (3/1/2012 2:53:56 PM)

Another thing to consider, at least from where I sit. We do not know, for any reasonable fact, WHAT exactly a financial dom and slave actually do gain from it.

If a woman has 10 financial slaves, who is to say that there are not 12, 13, 11 total slaves. With the difference between the 10 and whatever number, having become MORE?

So I won't make that judgement call that all relationships are cold and disconnected as some of those with the fin slaves appear to be.

There are people in my life with which I have a very superficial and shallow connection. There are others I rather like and who's company I enjoy but there is no deep emotional attachment. Then there are a select few with whom I share a deep and loving relationship. People that are very important to me, and in my life.

The latter did not become so directly upon meeting them, except maybe my children and grandchildren. Even then, I have a better relationship with each as time goes on.




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