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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 4:07:07 AM

LaTigresse

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And now we know why you had the need to create this thread........and I did/do not.

You are being very obtuse, whether it's intentional or not.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 4:58:24 AM

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But now she telling me that she doesn't have time for this and that I'm not a real Master. Is there something I'm missing here?

Yes, you're missing the part that a couple of us told you on another thread that you started a couple of months back. Would you like Me to find that for you or can I pretty much just repeat to you now what I told you then?

Answer a question and I'll show you what you're missing. Ready?

What or who have you Mastered?

(Is what I told you coming back to you now?)

Mastering yourself isn't all that hard for anybody who doesn't have impulse control problems. At least 80% of the population does that. They go to work, don't break the law, they are responsible for their actions, etc. (Work with Me here. That's what people are supposed to do.) That's what the majority of society does (hopefully) so that's not really all that big of a deal.

Folks have been trying to be nice to you on this thread, but the gal you were dealing with saw your lack of experience and I'm guessing that's why she told you she didn't see you as a real Master. In her view, she was right. That means you move on because you do not have the experience that she wants in a dynamic.

By the way, LaT is right, too. I tell this to every male on this site when it comes up. You are competing with every other male here because there are so many more men than women!

Here's the last thing. SR was good enough to provide you with that list of events. Did you happen to notice who thanked her? It wasn't you and YOU are the person who needs it so you will get off of your butt and go out and GET experience. You've been here five months and have not gotten off of your tail to be proactive. THAT'S what a Master does.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 5:59:05 AM

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the gal you were dealing with saw your lack of experience and I'm guessing that's why she told you she didn't see you as a real Master. In her view, she was right. That means you move on because you do not have the experience that she wants in a dynamic.

OP - you're clear about your lack of experience in your profile. Were you less so in your interaction with the woman?

I suggest you lose the Master label for now and start with Dom until you have some experience under your belt.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 9:13:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

Come out to any of the following events.. and get to know people...(and people wonder why im always bloody tired)

Invasion of Genos Philly March 3rd (what you order)
SEPA- Bensalem March 3rd (costs what you order)
Gate Munch philly March 3rd (pay your tab)
Philly Friends Philly March 7th (pay your own tab)
NDDs - Claymont DE March 8th (Munch cost ten dollars and covered dish)
Avairy NE Philly March 10th (Play party costs ten dollars)
Black Phoenix Philly March 10th (play party cost 10 dollars)
Edumunchcation Philly March 11th
Phoenixville munch Phoenixville March 13 (cost of tab)
Bucks County munch Levitown March 14th (pay your own tab)
Kulture Shock Philly March 16(play party cost 5 before 10pm and 10 after)
RopeBite Philly Philly March 21 (pay your own tab)
Kinky Mardi Gras Jersey March 24th (40 dollars play party, tickets on sale at gate munch and online almost sold out)
PWSM March kop malvern area 27 (pay your own tab)
Rope Bite Philly demo and BP Play party Philly March 31s (10 dollars)

Hey SpiritedRadiance, I apologize for not thanking you earlier for listing these events and for snapping back at you.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 9:35:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

ORIGINAL: orimotis69
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But now she telling me that she doesn't have time for this and that I'm not a real Master. Is there something I'm missing here?

Yes, you're missing the part that a couple of us told you on another thread that you started a couple of months back. Would you like Me to find that for you or can I pretty much just repeat to you now what I told you then?

Answer a question and I'll show you what you're missing. Ready?

What or who have you Mastered?

(Is what I told you coming back to you now?)

Mastering yourself isn't all that hard for anybody who doesn't have impulse control problems. At least 80% of the population does that. They go to work, don't break the law, they are responsible for their actions, etc. (Work with Me here. That's what people are supposed to do.) That's what the majority of society does (hopefully) so that's not really all that big of a deal.

Folks have been trying to be nice to you on this thread, but the gal you were dealing with saw your lack of experience and I'm guessing that's why she told you she didn't see you as a real Master. In her view, she was right. That means you move on because you do not have the experience that she wants in a dynamic.

By the way, LaT is right, too. I tell this to every male on this site when it comes up. You are competing with every other male here because there are so many more men than women!

Here's the last thing. SR was good enough to provide you with that list of events. Did you happen to notice who thanked her? It wasn't you and YOU are the person who needs it so you will get off of your butt and go out and GET experience. You've been here five months and have not gotten off of your tail to be proactive. THAT'S what a Master does.

I honestly don't remember what thread you're talking about. If you're talking about this one, I'm not really sure how this applies. If the girl doesn't like me because of my lack of experience, that's fine and it's something I'll work on. LaT made no such effort to stat that there are more men then women, a fact I already knew. What LaT said to me was "Dude, quit being such a wussie." OK, fine. But then it went a little bit over the top. I work part-time and do freelance work so it's not like I can go to every single meeting available. But I do appreciated your advice and encouragement.

< Message edited by orimotis69 -- 3/6/2012 9:38:08 AM >

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-Every point of view is useful, even those that are wrong - if we can judge why a wrong view was accepted.
-You have not really defeated the enemy if you adopt their methods.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 11:25:30 AM

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To master another you first must master yourself. Nothing you've written, your reactions to what others have written, shows you have mastery over yourself. You are not alone. It's pretty common actually.

One of the first things I realized when I realized I wanted this sort of relationship was that I had a lot of work to do on MYSELF before I could even begin to think another person, especially a person worth having, was going to give their power over to me.

Being a master isn't just about the fun slap tickle. You have a person/s, giving you a helluvalot of control over them, their life choices, and probably even their relationships with other people they love a great deal. In controlling them, you have a huge responsibility. Most reasonably intelligent and sane people are going to have some very fucking high expectations of the person they give that control over to.

I've worked damned hard on being the sort of woman, a woman I would want to have in my life, would feel safe in giving that control to. I don't take that responsibility lightly.

If the words of a random stranger (me) is going to get your panties bunched, what in the hell do you do when something serious and real, slaps you in the face? I don't always use the most sugar coated words to explain my point of view. But how people take those words and my point of view says a lot about how a person deals with the less than pretty stuff real life tosses at us.

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 3/6/2012 11:26:19 AM >

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Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 11:46:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

To master another you first must master yourself. Nothing you've written, your reactions to what others have written, shows you have mastery over yourself. You are not alone. It's pretty common actually.

One of the first things I realized when I realized I wanted this sort of relationship was that I had a lot of work to do on MYSELF before I could even begin to think another person, especially a person worth having, was going to give their power over to me.

Being a master isn't just about the fun slap tickle. You have a person/s, giving you a helluvalot of control over them, their life choices, and probably even their relationships with other people they love a great deal. In controlling them, you have a huge responsibility. Most reasonably intelligent and sane people are going to have some very fucking high expectations of the person they give that control over to.

I've worked damned hard on being the sort of woman, a woman I would want to have in my life, would feel safe in giving that control to. I don't take that responsibility lightly.

If the words of a random stranger (me) is going to get your panties bunched, what in the hell do you do when something serious and real, slaps you in the face? I don't always use the most sugar coated words to explain my point of view. But how people take those words and my point of view says a lot about how a person deals with the less than pretty stuff real life tosses at us.

Very well put.
I have had a situation which though is my own creation, I have pissed about, probably because it hurt. A lot of time, a lot of emotional invested, et al... long boring story. BUT to get upset with an online exchange that had already been one sided, going south and butthurt about it?

Work on yourself, be comfortable with yourself, be honest to yourself...and then worry about a "relationship", ownership or whatever the fuck you are looking for.

Hey look at me I'm posting in "ask a submissive/slave"... how the hell did I get here?

Laughing.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 2:32:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

To master another you first must master yourself. Nothing you've written, your reactions to what others have written, shows you have mastery over yourself. You are not alone. It's pretty common actually.

One of the first things I realized when I realized I wanted this sort of relationship was that I had a lot of work to do on MYSELF before I could even begin to think another person, especially a person worth having, was going to give their power over to me.

Being a master isn't just about the fun slap tickle. You have a person/s, giving you a helluvalot of control over them, their life choices, and probably even their relationships with other people they love a great deal. In controlling them, you have a huge responsibility. Most reasonably intelligent and sane people are going to have some very fucking high expectations of the person they give that control over to.

I've worked damned hard on being the sort of woman, a woman I would want to have in my life, would feel safe in giving that control to. I don't take that responsibility lightly.

If the words of a random stranger (me) is going to get your panties bunched, what in the hell do you do when something serious and real, slaps you in the face? I don't always use the most sugar coated words to explain my point of view. But how people take those words and my point of view says a lot about how a person deals with the less than pretty stuff real life tosses at us.

It is the height of hubris for one to just declare that they have mastered themselves; especially on the internet. That would be like getting a black belt in Karate and then announcing you've mastered all of Karate. And what makes you think you up set me. So after calling me a wussie and bragging about how you have better social skills then me you have the nerve to judge my character and say that some how I can't handle real life. The words people choose to use can also reveal certain aspects of a person.
I really don't understand why this got blown way out of proportion. Ok, I do but there are far better things to blow out of proportion then this.

...Ok look, if I somehow acted like a dick, I apologize, so lets just drop it, make up and move on.

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-Every point of view is useful, even those that are wrong - if we can judge why a wrong view was accepted.
-You have not really defeated the enemy if you adopt their methods.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 2:57:09 PM

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You, yourself blew things out of proportion.

I am just bopping in and posting on threads that catch my eye, when I have a free moment.

You created a thread, you got responses. If you do not care for the responses you got, remove emotion and examine why.

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Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 3:51:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: orimotis69
If the girl doesn't like me because of my lack of experience, that's fine and it's something I'll work on.

If a Domme were to give me the line 'You're not a true submissive', I'd probably instantly recategorise her as not having been worth the attention in the first place. It's a line that would immediately imply such a variety of fundamental things that would be 'wrong' about her, for me. I'd try a) to move on and b) not to generalise from a single instance.

Anyway, 'plenty more fish in the bush', as my Dad always says.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 4:07:18 PM

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Plenty more fish in the bush.

I approve of that saying. Yes.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 4:42:05 PM

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Plenty more fish in the bush.

I approve of that saying. Yes.

I prefer the observation of blowing things out of proportion.

Explosions are good...

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 5:05:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Plenty more fish in the bush.

I approve of that saying. Yes.

I prefer the observation of blowing things out of proportion.

Explosions are good...

I do like explosions... but the fish thing reminded me of my mom's saying, "close enough for cigars". Yes, she does know how to play horseshoes.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/6/2012 5:47:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: orimotis69
I honestly don't remember what thread you're talking about. If you're talking about this one, I'm not really sure how this applies. If the girl doesn't like me because of my lack of experience, that's fine and it's something I'll work on. LaT made no such effort to stat that there are more men then women, a fact I already knew. What LaT said to me was "Dude, quit being such a wussie." OK, fine. But then it went a little bit over the top. I work part-time and do freelance work so it's not like I can go to every single meeting available. But I do appreciated your advice and encouragement.

Yes, that is the thread. The reason that I point it out to you is to remind you of how different people see these terms (Sir, Master, Dom, etc) and they don't mean the same thing to everyone. I think this is the disconnect that happened in your question of the thread. Your definition of Master and hers were two different things. You even follow up in your next post to say this:

quote:

ORIGINAL: orimotis69
It is the height of hubris for one to just declare that they have mastered themselves; especially on the internet.

Isn't that kind of what you did? In that gal's eyes, it just might be how she sees it. I notice that you didn't answer kalikshama's question. Might it have had something to do with it?

You did let this bother you more than it may have if you had a little more experience. You didn't mention if you addressed the situation with the person who you were dealing with. That's the person who didn't see you as a real Master and that's where your answer lies. The rest of us can only guess.

ETA - Thank you for correcting your earlier reply to SR.

< Message edited by LadyPact -- 3/6/2012 5:48:34 PM >

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/7/2012 6:07:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: orimotis69
I honestly don't remember what thread you're talking about. If you're talking about this one, I'm not really sure how this applies. If the girl doesn't like me because of my lack of experience, that's fine and it's something I'll work on. LaT made no such effort to stat that there are more men then women, a fact I already knew. What LaT said to me was "Dude, quit being such a wussie." OK, fine. But then it went a little bit over the top. I work part-time and do freelance work so it's not like I can go to every single meeting available. But I do appreciated your advice and encouragement.

Yes, that is the thread. The reason that I point it out to you is to remind you of how different people see these terms (Sir, Master, Dom, etc) and they don't mean the same thing to everyone. I think this is the disconnect that happened in your question of the thread. Your definition of Master and hers were two different things. You even follow up in your next post to say this:

quote:

ORIGINAL: orimotis69
It is the height of hubris for one to just declare that they have mastered themselves; especially on the internet.

Isn't that kind of what you did? In that gal's eyes, it just might be how she sees it. I notice that you didn't answer kalikshama's question. Might it have had something to do with it?

You did let this bother you more than it may have if you had a little more experience. You didn't mention if you addressed the situation with the person who you were dealing with. That's the person who didn't see you as a real Master and that's where your answer lies. The rest of us can only guess.

ETA - Thank you for correcting your earlier reply to SR.

To answer kalikshama's question, She mentioned she had past experience when she introduced herself to me. But I didn't make it clear that I was new. I talked to her about my college experience, my hometown, and some of my interests like video games. In hindsight, this is my fault and I made a false assumption that she had read the part in my profile where I stated that I'm new to the bdsm lifestyle.

By the way, just came back from my first munch meeting and I'm hoping to come back but circumstances beyond my control might prevent me from attending meetings.

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-Accepting another's path blinds you to alternatives.
-Every point of view is useful, even those that are wrong - if we can judge why a wrong view was accepted.
-You have not really defeated the enemy if you adopt their methods.

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RE: Did I do something wrong? - 3/11/2012 12:10:51 AM

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I can't speak for if anything was done wrong on your part or why she stopped wanting to talk but as for the lack of questions it could of been an indication that she wasn't interested or it could very well have just been that she's bad at asking questions. I know it's an on thing to be bad at but I am and she could have been the same.

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