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I think he also mentioned it was one of the only stations he could get at the time

I thought Rich lived in California...
Is this where we find out he lives on the Barker Ranch or something

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If you understood that a woman takes the Pill every day, whether she is having sex that day or not, irrespective of the number of partners she has, why would you call it "her right to subsidized promiscuity?"

A couple reasons, Kalikshama. For one, to highlight that people right here on this planet, with a legitimate stake in the discussion, and legitimate rights to their beliefs, and free expression of them, have differing values, and interpretations of behavior.

Of course you are entitled to your beliefs. I'm looking for the rationale behind them.

Yes. I too am going to find it illuminating to see how TheHeretic charts the descent from the lofty ideals he claims motivates his posts to the scurrilous deceitful crap (eg "subsidized promiscuity") that actually comprise his posts.

The two are so far apart that I doubt any rational connection can be established.

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Maybe try reading what you quoted, Tweak? To highlight that there are different ways for people to see exactly the same set of facts.

Did it happen to occur to you that I might regard your demands for attention as the "inane" bits? Do you need a link for that?

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You didn't put religious right in your list of choices so I didn't bring them up. But since you mentioned them, do you think they are worse than the religious left? Now I know the ones on the right make all the noise and the ones on the left sit back and smile a lot, but are they really that much different? Now there are certainly times I wish they would just shut the fuck up, but I wouldn't call them the scum of the earth. Well, maybe some of them.

It's hard to imagine someone's being unable (or unwilling?) to distinguish between, say, Gene Robinson or Jim Wallis and Pat Robertson or Jim Dobson.

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They wanted a war, they should cease complaining about it now that they have one.

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I think he also mentioned it was one of the only stations he could get at the time

I thought Rich lived in California...
Is this where we find out he lives on the Barker Ranch or something

More likely, this is where it becomes clear that my old boss was a cheap bastard when it came to the radios, and that the equipment got shuffled around enough, that you didn't want to put your own in.

And what I actually said was there are places where only the really high powered stations could penetrate the mountains and canyons.

It's rather odd when a stalker has your posts on hide. Somebody wanna quote?

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It sounds as though you are claiming that it's reasonable/rational to interpret women who take contraceptives for general health (non-sexual) reasons as somehow enjoying a right to "subsidized promiscuity".

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Not actually positive to who you are posing that question boi,nor am I sure of which "war" the poster is referencing,but given the thread and the general subject.....might it be the "culture war" that is being refereed to .
Just my guess

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Yeah Obama needs to talk about the 'real issues' like cell phone towers. My God. Who exactly is Maher bigoted against? Are we about to get a 'pity the poor white man' rant? The last time we had a 'real budget', ie a balanced one, was when Clinton was in office. The last Republican to balance a budget was Eisenhower. The last Republican to not, at a minimum, double the deficit was Nixon.

Cell phone towers aren't the issue, HSF. Taking away local authority, over local matters, that impact local lives, is a solid, kitchen-table, kind of issue.

Do you watch Maher's show? Do you see the contempt he continually expresses for people of faith? I quit watching because I found it offensive, and I'm not a Christian.

Why does my race matter, in the subjects of my rants?

A budget, period, HSF. You know. As in, a document that presents an accounting the American citizen of how our money is being spent?

Oh, and welcome to the forums.

Yes, he does have contempt for people of the Christian faith......so do I. I would have been perfectly content to 'live and let live', but Christians are hell bent on shoving their destructive, racist and divisiveness on the rest of the population. They wanted a war, they should cease complaining about it now that they have one.

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So please, detail one rational or reasonable way of proceeding from the noble ideals you claim motivate you to connecting taking medicine prescribed by a doctor and "subsidized promiscuity" without resorting to misogyny. Show us it is possible, even theoretically.

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Maddow said this was the "real problem" in the debate. Addressing him directly, she said, "You're bad at this, Rush Limbaugh! You don't even understand how babies are made, let alone how people can have sex without making a baby, and you would like the government to take over decision making on these issues on your say so and you don't get it. You biologically don't get it."

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So please, detail one rational or reasonable way of proceeding from the noble ideals you claim motivate you to connecting taking medicine prescribed by a doctor and "subsidized promiscuity" without resorting to misogyny. Show us it is possible, even theoretically.

The only way I can make a connection is if one ignores the Pill as a form of contraception and focuses on condoms:

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His anger about Fluke was because, in his interpretation, he thought she was asking for the government's assistance in paying for her birth control pills. This sparked his comments that she wants to "be paid to have sex, and must be a slut or a prostitute."

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His anger about Fluke was because, in his interpretation, he thought she was asking for the government's assistance in paying for her birth control pills. This sparked his comments that she wants to "be paid to have sex, and must be a slut or a prostitute."

"In his interpretation"? Or "in his imagination"?
Because there doesn't appear to be any factual basis for connection Rush is making.

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Even in your tentative defence of Rush:
" He was on Georgetown's side, saying that their status as a private institution means they can make whatever decision they want to on whether or not to allow their insurance to cover contraception".

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Your argument thus appears to rely on a claim that Rush is able to discriminate between the Govt's role and the University's role, and that Rush confused the two roles. Or to put that slightly differently, your argument appears to rely on two contradictory premises.

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A far more credible explanation is the Rush invented the entire thing because it suited him politically, that Rush was malicious. Rush's history of personal vituperation and looseness with the truth, whenever he feels they are politically warranted both support this view. It is difficult to explain the enormous gap between the facts and Rush's vitriol otherwise. How precisely might one jump from:
"he thought she was asking for the government's assistance in paying for her birth control pills."
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she wants to "be paid to have sex, and must be a slut or a prostitute."
without malice???

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A far more credible explanation is the Rush invented the entire thing because it suited him politically, that Rush was malicious.