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MDomCouple -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 12:42:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Let me see if I understand this ...Rush is not a spokesperson for the right nor the Republicans ...good so far ? But you guys are going to assume fightdirecto speaks for the Democratic Party as a whole ? Really ? I don't think anyone said that, actually. We just find it highly ironic that Democrats and liberals have been touted as such an accepting, loving, tolerant group. Yet, here we have a liberal who would rather compare us to Nazi-loving Jews than accept the fact that someone views the world differently than they do. Yanno, that old chestnut makes me wonder, who has been touting that 'Democrats AND liberals' are an accepting, loving, tolerant group? Perhaps as a favor, you could cite something credible regarding this generalization applied to the seemingly homogenous group. (For the homogenous group gathered here.) If you need some sort of citation to back up the notion that liberals and Democrats are generally seen as more tolerant and accepting then their conservative Republican counterparts, then I would suggest you don't really pay attention to the world around you.

Raiikun -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 12:43:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u You miss the point completely...of course that comes as no surprise to me at all. The one defining characteristic I get from your posting style is,after all,obtuseness [8\|] Nah, your point just doesn't invalidate mine, so mine was still worth making.

mnottertail -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 12:46:29 PM)
Well, I was perhaps thinking that you should, you see the vision trouble thing is all yours, since you could say that they are percieved that way when convienient to your canards, but we only need to look at voting records in the house and senate over centuries to see that is not, and has never been a reality. And maybe that is a democratic and liberal notion, to deal in reality, instead of flights of fancy, because for a long long time..that has been the discourse in republican circles trying to be foisted off as debate or reasons to believe a certain view.

MDomCouple -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 1:20:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Well, I was perhaps thinking that you should, you see the vision trouble thing is all yours, since you could say that they are percieved that way when convienient to your canards, but we only need to look at voting records in the house and senate over centuries to see that is not, and has never been a reality. And maybe that is a democratic and liberal notion, to deal in reality, instead of flights of fancy, because for a long long time..that has been the discourse in republican circles trying to be foisted off as debate or reasons to believe a certain view. Whatever you say. If you'd rather we frame the discourse under the notion that liberals and Democrats aren't tolerant or accepting, I'm fine with that.

SternSkipper -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 1:35:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple I'm seeing that the apparent trend in this line of discussion is "agree with us, or else." Sorry, that doesn't work for me. When someone feels the need to trot out tired, baseless comparisons to the Nazis in order to prove a point, all they have proven is their inability to conduct themselves rationally. Just makes ya wanna run right out and vote Democrat, don't it? K. Exactly. It's funny. I have, for years, heard various liberals describe conservatives at hateful, mean-spirited, and vile. The irony in those statements is not lost on me, that's fore sure. Or fall the fuck asleep listening to republicans pass out milk of sorrow glasses to each other. Whatever ... please return to the topic

mnottertail -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 1:44:50 PM)
I would be no more comfortable with that sort of adversarial position unless we would antagonistically agree that all republicans prefer to solicit each other in airport bathrooms.

Edwynn -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 1:47:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple Whatever you say. If you'd rather we frame the discourse under the notion that liberals and Democrats aren't tolerant or accepting, I'm fine with that. It's about having a discourse absent convenient ascribing of supposed attributions to a certain group. I know that a lot of posters here do that, it doesn't mean you have to copy them. In any event, such attribution being warranted or not, pointing out a behavior or action of one or a few as being in contradiction to that by way of "I thought that they were supposed to be ... " is rather childish. Not exactly speaking to the issue. But aside from that, I understand your reasoning for having the voting inclinations that you do, given your particular understanding and opinions of how the country should be run or not. But the fact, for some of us, is that what is actually going on with those who hold office and those who vote for them that think giving more to those who already have more than they know what to even invest with is neatly summed up in an earlier post: quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess The American electorate routinely votes against self-interest. According to actual policy and measures of economic well-being, no middle class American should be voting Republican. But they vote Republican in huge numbers. I guess they think the Republican policies will help them when they become rich themselves - which, of course, rarely happens. But they will spend a lifetime chasing their dreams and voting Republican to protect a personal fortune that never comes, instead of voting to help their current situation. This has been well documented. After the crash, investment took a dive because there was so little to invest in that would bring any nominal return. The interest rates were almost nothing for fixed income, the well ran dry on business or consumer buying because company and personal asset values, therefore wealth, took a dive after being gutted by the deregulated financial industry. Then nobody wants to lend, even for some few willing smaller investors that found something worthwhile. The experiment has failed, we are paying for it, and no amount of denial can make it otherwise.

Owner59 -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 1:47:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess I am at more of a loss to say why someone who is gay, or a minority (except for Cuban Americans) would ever vote Republican. Maybe it is the same thing. That they view themselves as mainstream and don't feel they need to be protected from the majority? I don't know. These types of voting patterns never made sense to me. See my post right above this one. Perhaps that will help you understand why minorities vote Republican. You still may not agree with my choice, and that is perfectly fine, but at least you may gain an understanding as to the thought process of me and people like me. I'm really sorry, but this is like a Jew supporting the Nazis. You realize if the true conservatives had their way, your lifestyle would not be allowed. At all. All of the legal protections that you enjoy today came from liberals fighting for the cause. Take a look at how gay people are treated in conservative parts of the world. Is that really what you want to support? A back to the closet movement?... Remember that before the Nazis rise to power, Jewish people in Germany were a successful group who were free to own property, run businesses, marry outside their faith, live where they chose to live, etc. etc. etc. All of those rights were slowly taken away. Our rights only last as long as we protect them. Rights today NEVER mean rights tomorrow if things swing in the wrong direction. Do not forget, fucktoyprincess, that when the Jews were put in the camps, some of the Jews (believing it would save their own skins) volunteered to become members of the Kameradschaftspolizei or "Kapos". "Kapos" were known for their brutality toward other prisoners. Their brutality was tolerated and encouraged by the SS and was an integral part of the camp system. Sadly, there are gays, lesbians, transgendered, bisexuals and just kinky straights today who would voluntarily become the next generation of "Kapos" for today's American Social Conservative Taliban, believing it would save their own skins. History repeats itself - that's one thing wrong with history. t I have been compared to a lot of things in my life, but this is a first. And people say the democrats are such loving people. I guess they don't spend much time in this forum. Well....when one defends scum......one may become associated with it. Fact of life... I would have used a less extreme example.......like the whites who tolerated and defended government sanctioned and socially accepted racism and discrimination. This is the same thing,same fight,only this time around,you`re defending sexism (and anti-intellectualism).

MDomCouple -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 2:03:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple Whatever you say. If you'd rather we frame the discourse under the notion that liberals and Democrats aren't tolerant or accepting, I'm fine with that. It's about having a discourse absent convenient ascribing of supposed attributions of a certain group. I know that a lot of posters here do that, it doesn't mean you have to copy them. In any event, such attribution being warranted or not, pointing out a behavior or action of one or a few as being in contradiction to that by way of "I thought that they were supposed to be ... " is rather childish. Not exactly speaking to the issue. But aside from that, I understand your reasoning for having the voting inclinations that you do, given your particular understanding and opinions of how the country should be run or not. But the fact, for some of us, is that what is actually going on with those who hold office and those who vote for them that think giving more to those that already have more than they know what to even invest with is neatly summed up in an earlier post: quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess The American electorate routinely votes against self-interest. According to actual policy and measures of economic well-being, no middle class American should be voting Republican. But they vote Republican in huge numbers. I guess they think the Republican policies will help them when they become rich themselves - which, of course, rarely happens. But they will spend a lifetime chasing their dreams and voting Republican to protect a personal fortune that never comes, instead of voting to help their current situation. This has been well documented. The experiment has failed, we are paying for it, and no amount of denial can make it otherwise. You want to condemn me for making an, admittedly, snarky comment about liberals being tolerant and accepting? Fine. But, where is the condemnation for the people who attacked me, calling me a Nazi-loving Jew? Or are snarky comments and insults only worthy of condemnation when they are directed toward a liberal? Spare me your faux indignation at the tone of my comments. I'm not buying it. But, hey, at least you are a step ahead of other people who didn't bother to look at what I believe, choosing instead only to focus on my sexual orientation. So, thank you for that. Thank you for actually treating me like a human being, and not just a demographic. On that topic, I have never said, nor would ever say, that Republicans are perfect. Anyone who claims that Republicans OR Democrats are perfect in their political machinations is either blind or a liar. However, at the core, I still feel that the Republican precepts and tenets are closer to my own values than the Democrats' are. Are there some mistakes in the past, things the GOP can and should learn from? Absolutely. But, I don't see mistakes of the past a reason to give up the ghost and move to a party I rarely agree with even in the theoretical.

slvemike4u -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 2:12:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u You miss the point completely...of course that comes as no surprise to me at all. The one defining characteristic I get from your posting style is,after all,obtuseness [8\|] Nah, your point just doesn't invalidate mine, so mine was still worth making. Sure it was.....in your head I'm sure it seems that way [:)]

fucktoyprincess -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 2:14:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple I tried to have a civil discussion with you about my political leanings and the reasons behind them. But, apparently, your moral outrage at my decision has overtaken your ability to discuss things like a rational adult. Comparing me to a Nazi-supporting Jew is so far beyond the realm of rational discourse as to be laughable. Think what you want of me, of my political decisions. I really don't need, nor want, your approval. Someone asked why I vote Republican. I answered. If you can't accept the fact that others feel differently than you do, and feel the need to get on some sort of political soapbox about it, talking down to me as though I am a kindergarten student, then the problem here lies within you. I think you misinterpret. This is a free country. And you are free to be of whatever political stripe you feel suits your own purposes at this time. But do not tell me that conservatives in this country are the ones who got behind the Civil Rights Movement, or the Equal Rights Amendment or gay rights, or any of the other positive social changes in this country. Conservatives in America have fought those social movements every step of the way. I am just trying to point out that it is because of liberals in the past, some of whom died that you enjoy some of the personal freedoms that you have (ever heard of Harvey Milk? At the time Harvey Milk became a liberal advocate for gay rights oral sex was still a FELONY - how do you feel about going to jail for being gay?). Please don't recharacterize history to suggest that somehow it was conservatives and Republicans who have championed liberal causes during the last century. Again, you are free to vote however you want. But if you actually believe in gay rights (as opposed to just being gay) then please consider donating to the liberal institutions that continue to fight on a DAILY basis for the continued protection of YOUR rights (the ACLU, GMHC, LAMBDA just to name a few). What I was suggesting is that rights only last as long as they are protected. I am doing more than my fair share to protect the rights of many people. I only ask that if you belong to a group that has been historically persecuted (homosexuals were sent to concentration camps, too) then perhaps you should support some causes that help protect your group. And please understand, that almost all of those groups would be characterized as LIBERAL organizations by their founders, followers and even critics. No Republican would consider the ACLU, GMHC or LAMBDA to be conservative organizations. I'm just citing the facts. Again, you have every right to be Republican.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 2:18:17 PM)
FR I do not believe that the comments about people's rights is off topic for this thread. At the heart of the contraception issue and the issue of public discourse is the importance of defending and protecting civil liberties, particularly against the encroachment of the religious right. Those of you who want protection for your particular group (whatever that group is) should be willing to support the organizations who protect your group. Certainly, Limbaugh and those who think like him are a reminder to me to increase my annual donation to Planned Parenthood.

ILsubman -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 2:23:14 PM)
Glad we have a robust economy, low unemployment, cheap fuel and a roaring housing market so that we can focus on birth control issues!

MDomCouple -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 2:26:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincessI think you misinterpret. This is a free country. And you are free to be of whatever political stripe you feel suits your own purposes at this time. I didn't misinterpret anything. I never thought you were attempting to tell who I could or couldn't vote for. I did think, however, that your moral outrage at my decision diverted you away from anything resembling rational discourse and smack in to the territory of outlandish, insulting, and offensive comparisons. But, hey, you are free to make as many of those as you want. quote: But do not tell me that conservatives in this country are the ones who got behind the Civil Rights Movement, or the Equal Rights Amendment or gay rights, or any of the other positive social changes in this country. Conservatives in America have fought those social movements every step of the way. Don't think I did tell you any of those things, sorry. quote: I am just trying to point out that it is because of liberals in the past, some of whom died that you enjoy some of the personal freedoms that you have (ever heard of Harvey Milk? At the time Harvey Milk became a liberal advocate for gay rights oral sex was still a FELONY - how do you feel about going to jail for being gay?). I don't think I ever made any claim relating to what liberals have or have not accomplished in the past. I have never denied that liberals have done great things in terms of social movements, so I'm not sure why you feel I need a history lesson here (or somehow think I'm ignorant of who Harvey Milk was.) quote: Please don't recharacterize history to suggest that somehow it was conservatives and Republicans who have championed liberal causes during the last century. When did I attempt to do anything of the sort? Or is this a preemptive warning, in case you suspect I'm likely to attempt to rewrite history? quote: Again, you are free to vote however you want. Gee, thanks for your permission. I guess I'll feel better casting my ballot, knowing that you said it was okay. quote: But if you actually believe in gay rights (as opposed to just being gay) then please consider donating to the liberal institutions that continue to fight on a DAILY basis for the continued protection of YOUR rights (the ACLU, GMHC, LAMBDA just to name a few). And, what makes you think I am not involved in supporting organizations like the ones you mentioned? quote: What I was suggesting is that rights only last as long as they are protected. I am doing more than my fair share to protect the rights of many people. I only ask that if you belong to a group that has been historically persecuted (homosexuals were sent to concentration camps, too) then perhaps you should support some causes that help protect your group. And please understand, that almost all of those groups would be characterized as LIBERAL organizations by their founders, followers and even critics. No Republican would consider the ACLU, GMHC or LAMBDA to be conservative organizations. I'm just citing the facts. Again with the assumptions that I'm some dyed-in-the-wool conservative who would rather shoot his own eye out than admit that liberals have done good things for our country, and still do good things for our country. You seem to be laboring under some false delusion that being a registered Republican means that I am out denouncing anything and everything liberal. That is an enormous, and false, assumption to make. quote: Again, you have every right to be Republican. Thank you for your permission.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 2:57:16 PM)
quote: I'm really sorry, but this is like a Jew supporting the Nazis. First of all, this is what I wrote in my post. I said this was "like" something else. Meaning from a philosophical logical perspective (i.e., logical reasoning) you are taking a similar position. I did not call you a Nazi. And I did not call you a Jew. I also explained why I considered it similar by outlining how Jewish people in Germany lost rights over time. And some of those Jewish people initially supported and cooperated with the Nazi government. All I was referring to is that sometimes we can inadvertently cooperate with those who are not actually working in our self-interest. Again, I did NOT call you a Nazi, and I did NOT call you a Jew. So for you to characterize my comment above as "moral outrage at my decision diverted you away from anything resembling rational discourse and smack in to the territory of outlandish, insulting, and offensive comparisons" seems a bit extreme to me, to say the least. It is YOU who are overreacting. And guess what, I understand completely, why you are feeling defensive. quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple I have to add that the recent posts by certain members has taught me a valuable lesson. Apparently, to some liberals, I'm not a full person. I'm not an actual human being with a mind, body, and heart of his own. I'm not important enough to be allowed to make my own decisions, live my own life, and do what I want want to do to see my life improve by the standards I set. To those particular liberals, I'm not a person. I'm simply a demographic, boiled down to little more than my sexual orientation. A lot of liberals accuse conservatives of focusing too much on sexual orientation, but at least the conservatives in my life see me as a full person. At least they see me as more than just gay. It's a shame that some of the liberals on here can't do that too. My stance on the economy? Doesn't matter to them, I'm gay. My stance on national defense? Who cares, I'm gay. My stance on health care, personal liberty, gun control? None of that means jack to them, because I'm gay. Apparently, ONE characteristic about me is all that is necessary for them to make up their mind about who I should be and how I should vote. When homosexuals got sent to concentration camps by the SS, do you think it mattered what their views were on the Nazi party, on Hitler, on what Hitler had done to the German economy, their view of the war, etc., etc., etc. Their views on everything else didn't matter at all. Being homosexual was grounds in and of itself to be sent to a concentration camp. In other words, if one (not you) doesn't help protect one's group, then sometimes bad things happen down the line. History has shown us this. Again, vote however you want. But understand that if the religious right ever gains steam, then your group will not be protected even if you are a card-carrying Republican. The last I checked, institutions like the Catholic church, in addition to not supporting contraception, do not support homosexuality either. It's a fact.

Edwynn -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 3:10:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MDomCouple You want to condemn me ... It wasn't a condemnation, merely pointing it out. And yes, another has pointed out the inappropriateness of invoking the Nazis into it and so I will too. Inappropriate. quote: Spare me your faux indignation ... Spare me the drama. If you'll read my edited post, what I am pointing out is that so many core Republican tenets, such as 'less government,' are so diffuse that people do not pay attention to what that actually means in practice. People keep saying "I believe in some regulation," but think that it goes too far, etc. What are they looking at when they say such things? Reagan came in with a mandate of dismantling 'big government' and succeed famously in doing so for the corporate sector, starting with almost immediate memos to the FTC to slow down or desist entirely with several cases before them, likewise the Anti-Trust division of the Justice Department. He put his own people in as some of his first re-staffing of regulatory agencies. The SEC, FDIC, OCC, The Dept. of the Interior (James Watt), etc. all down the line. He fired the guy at the FDA for following the recommendation of his own science panel in denying aspartame for use in food, after Rumsfeldt (CEO of its maker, GD Searle) said he would "call in my markers on this one." After Volker performed the miracle of bringing down the pre-existing inflation even in the midst of willy-nilly tax cuts and profligate defense spending, Reagan said "thanks, bye" and brought in the maven of free markets, Greenspan. He, as much as any one person, is responsible for the situation we find ourselves in today. His relentless drive to deregulate the markets came mostly in the way of ever more relaxation of existing regulation, and being the considered guru that he was, the FDIC, the OCC, the SEC, the CFTC, and all the rest fell in line, as eventually, so did congress. He approved the illegal merger of CitiBank and The Travelers group, essentially forcing congress to overturn what portion of Glass-Stegall they hadn't already in the earlier 90's with the Financial Industry Modernization Act of 1999. Since Reagan, no president or prominent congress person has dared to act or speak in contravention of the notion of not interfering more than superficially with what large corporations want. I and others have plenty of gripes about many of the more prominent Democrats, but the largest portion of it stems from their inability to turn back the tide, nay, tsunami of corporate influence in government. What was previously an influence to be resisted or repelled now became the baseline as the only way to get into or stay in office. And what people do not understand is that this manifestation of corporate staffing of the regulatory agencies, that being anything but 'less government,' is the only logical result of a 'free market' mentality and its implementation. The S&L crisis, the concomitant RE bust, Enron's intentionally shutting down power plants and wreaking havoc in CA, none of which they were ever called to account for, then liquidating the entirety of their employees' pension funds, having CEOs of large corporations in the top level Cabinet positions, the financial industry's completely unregulated CDOs and Credit Default Swaps, the ratings agency S&P strong arming states to not enact predatory lending laws, the resultant financial melt down and crash of markets ... What does it take for you guys? All the above are merely the logical result of these 'tenets' so dearly held. Oh, and let's not forget that Reagan's 'less government' was also part and parcel of locking up many more thousands of young (especially poor) people than ever before, by way of increasing sentences, lowering the level of infraction that constituted felony, mandatory minimum sentences, etc. And again, this new aggression somehow became a 'standard' that no prominent politician of either party dare go against or try to remedy. For some people, the ideology, the romance of it, is so powerful that no matter what the numbers actually say, no matter that society keeps going down hill from one after implementation of all these wonderful ideas, no matter that the US is now and has been for over twenty years heading towards being the largest third world country in history ... "but, I don't like the idea of the government interfering with ... " (turns back to my Juggling For Beginners book ...) Nevermind, you guys go right ahead. Have fun now.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 4:45:34 PM)
FR To whoever cares. One of the reasons that the Republican stance on contraception, the health care provisions, and Fluke is so distressing is that it is fundamentally an attack on freedom of religion and an attack on women. Again, our rights only last as long as we try to protect them. Does anyone think that all German Jews who were living in Germany in 1920 could have foreseen what would happen in WWII - does anyone think they imagined Aushchwitz and Dachau? Because if they had, I'm quite sure most would have gotten out when they had the chance. My point in mentioning this is that in any era we always think, "oh things are pretty good, oh things aren't that bad, things won't get worse, truly bad things could never happen here." And what has history repeatedly shown us? Another example. Iranians in pre-revolutionary Iran - before the rise of the Islamic conservatives/fundamentalists. If you speak to people who managed to get out, many did not imagine back in the 70s that things would get so bad over the last few decades. When we get complacent about our rights and ignore conservative movements - bad things can happen. Our protections are only ever as good as our willingness to support and defend them. Mitt Romney should have apologized to Fluke. And his failure to do so shows how the religious right still has a stranglehold on the Republican party. Anyone who thinks we do not have to worry about the religious conservative/fundamentalist movement in this country is wrong. Anyone who thinks we do not have to worry about base prejudice against entire groups of people (like women), are wrong. Liberal ideology has come a long way in America in this century. But anyone who feels they can be complacent about past struggles now that rights have been won is not looking at history through the appropriate lens. Rights are won. And rights can be lost. Complacency is never a good thing. And Mitt Romney's reaction - well, I would have to put it in the complacent category.

submittous -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 4:51:20 PM)
The OP asked if Mitt has a pair and the answer is self evident...... no The really sad thing is he's their best candidate and likely will be the nominee.... and every election is a horse race with built in unpredictability caused by outside influences, he could be leader of the free world in a year.

kdsub -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 5:13:52 PM)
quote: And Romney has distanced himself from Limpbaugh's assertions how in this case? His statement boils down to: "I agree with the twat, but would have said it in a much more mealy mouthed way." Moon he is against Obama's contraceptive law…so is Limpdick…Rommney said it is not the language he would use. Meaning he would not insult the woman but still disagree with her. He is true to his stance on the issue. What else do you want from him? He has no control over limpdick and separated himself from him. Do you expect him to say…” Because Limbaugh made a fool out of himself I will change my mind on the issue”? Butch

Hillwilliam -> RE: Does Mitt Romney Have A Pair.... THIS is where we find out (3/5/2012 5:18:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub quote: And Romney has distanced himself from Limpbaugh's assertions how in this case? His statement boils down to: "I agree with the twat, but would have said it in a much more mealy mouthed way." Moon he is against Obama's contraceptive law…so is Limpdick…Rommney said it is not the language he would use. Meaning he would not insult the woman but still disagree with her. He is true to his stance on the issue. What else do you want from him? He has no control over limpdick and separated himself from him. Do you expect him to say…” Because Limbaugh made a fool out of himself I will change my mind on the issue”? Butch I'd expect him to say "Rush is a classless idiot who does not in any way express the opinions of me or the Republican party"

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