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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/9/2012 12:00:52 PM   
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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/9/2012 12:06:19 PM   
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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/9/2012 2:44:27 PM   
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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/9/2012 5:22:51 PM   
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The whole notion that the worlds so called leading country could be anti womans rights is staggering. I watched the whole video and the abortion issue aside, I was shocked at moves to halt cancer screening in some States.

For those who think a Government health system isnt defending the people, I can assure you off one thing. Cancer will kill more of you than the Taliban ever could.

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/9/2012 7:38:41 PM   
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Brilliant vid from Rachel, Id like to thank those cons who suggested her
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#46675930

This totally explains why and answers my question (on another thread), as to why it seems cons are getting more and more extreme,more and more whacked-out.

Because they actually are,as Rachel pointed out,on the state level.

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 3:49:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Brilliant vid from Rachel, Id like to thank those cons who suggested her
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#46675930

This totally explains why and answers my question (on another thread), as to why it seems cons are getting more and more extreme,more and more whacked-out.

Because they actually are,as Rachel pointed out,on the state level.

Thanks Lucy.


Of course, going so extreme on the state level has a pretty significant cost for the party.
The state legislatures are where the parties develop and vet the folks who will later become national candidates. If a party has only nutjobs at the state level, what do they have to run at the national level in later years? It is kinda like having a farm league system.


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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 4:45:04 AM   
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I watched the whole video and the abortion issue aside, I was shocked at moves to halt cancer screening in some States.


Texas, right?

Supporters rally for women's health program

Thu Mar 8, 2012

Rene Resendez said she's astonished.

As a graduate student at the University of Texas of the Permian Basin, she relies on Planned Parenthood for annual exams. With a history of cervical cancer in her family, Resendez said she couldn't go without health care but wasn't able to afford check-ups while still paying for school.

So when she heard the Medicaid Women's Health Care Program, which she depends for services, might lose its federal funding, Resendez said she was amazed. It doesn't seem like women living in the 21st century should still have to fight for the provision of basic care, she said.

"We shouldn't have to choose between paying for a cancer screening and paying our bills when we're trying to further our education," she said Thursday at a "Don't Mess With Texas Women" rally held at Planned Parenthood.

Karen Hildebrand, CEO of Planned Parenthood of West Texas, said the rally was meant to send a message to Gov. Rick Perry that his decisions negatively affect women. The event that drew more than 50 people also was energizing to supporters of the cause, she said.

"These women depend on us," Hildebrand said. "We are their health care provider in this community."

The Texas Health and Human Services Commission passed a rule that excludes Planned Parenthood -- and any other provider affiliated with an organization that performs abortions -- from receiving funds through the Medicaid Women's Health Care Program. The federal government ruled the state measure is in violation of the Medicaid program's guidelines. As a result, Texas may lose federal funding for the program.

Through the program, the federal government provides $9 for every $1 the state spends on health care.

Read more: http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_9aaac4cc-9609-5a32-afd4-32c6be618a70.html

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 4:48:12 AM   
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Women's Health Program rally protests loss of services for poor women

The rally came a day after Gov. Rick Perry directed state officials to begin looking for money to keep program, but people at the Don't Mess with Texas Women rally were not comforted.

A coalition of Lubbock-area health care advocates and community members gathered Friday at Planned Parenthood to call on Gov. Rick Perry and the Texas Health and Human Services Commission to restore the Medicaid Women’s Health Program.

The rally came a day after Perry directed state officials to begin looking for money to keep the program, but people at the Don’t Mess with Texas Women rally were not comforted.

Dr. Anne C. Epstein, an internal medicine physician and sleep specialist and a member of the

Lubbock Board of Health, said she doesn’t believe Perry will find the funding to continue the program. She believes he’s claiming he will for political reasons, and said women in Lubbock will be affected by his decisions.

“Without Pap smears, women are going to die,” she said. “Without birth control, women are going to be saddled with large families. They’re going to be impoverished. Their children are going to be poorly educated. ... The rate of violence will go up, and everybody in Lubbock — Lubbock taxpayers — will pay the price of the worsening economy.”

The Associated Press reported Friday the federal government will stop funding the Texas health program because of a state law that bars abortion-affiliated clinics from getting public money. The federal money, which covers 90 percent of the state’s $40 million program, will be phased out between May and September, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said during a trip to Houston.

The announcement came a day after Perry said the state is committed to the program and will find the money to fund it. He issued a letter directing Thomas Suehs, head of the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, to work with legislative leaders and identify money to keep the program going if federal funds were halted. Perry did not specify where the funding might be found.

Perry on Friday blasted Sebelius’ announcement, insisting Medicaid rules give states the right to determine which clinics are qualified to provide women’s health care.

Tony Thornton, president and CEO of the Planned Parenthood Association of Lubbock, said he does not believe it’s possible to fund the Women’s Health Program without hurting other programs.

“I think that is an irresponsible statement to be making,” he said. “I don’t know how he’s going to find the money, when he cut all the programs statewide — not just Planned Parenthood, but every program in Texas that depended on state funding, he cut last year.”

Before the Women’s Health Care Program was cut, the Legislature cut funding for poor women’s health care from $111 million to $37 million,
said state Sen. Wendy Davis, D-Fort Worth, who was in Lubbock for the rally. Davis also criticized Perry for pushing the Texas Sonogram Law, which requires doctors to show women images from sonograms, play fetal heartbeats aloud and describe the features of fetuses at least 24 hours before abortions.

“Overnight, 180,000 women — poor women in Texas — lost their access to health care by the stroke of that budgetary pen,” Davis said. “But Governor Perry didn’t see that as an emergency. Instead, what was an emergency in his mind was making sure he intruded upon that precious doctor-patient relationship and put women in a situation of being emotionally tortured when making the most difficult decision they’ve ever been called upon in their lives to make: the choice about whether to terminate or carry a pregnancy to term.”

Rallies such as the one Friday are happening in 11 Texas cities in five days as the Don’t Mess With Texas Women campaign tours in a red, white and blue bus dubbed the Women’s Health Express to show disappointment that politics is interfering in the health care decisions of women.

Last year, the Legislature passed a law making it illegal for the state to provide Medicaid funds to a doctor or clinic affiliated with an organization that provides elective abortions, even if the institution receiving the money does not provide them.

The Texas Department of Health and Human Services announced in late February it would enforce the new state law that could shut down the Women’s Health Program, which provides 130,000 low-income women with preventative health care, including Pap smears, contraception and cervical and breast cancer screenings.

Thornton said all the Planned Parenthoods across the nation have participated in the program for the past five years.

“Now that we have all the numbers they need to prove to the feds that we need the program, it’s time for the renewal,” Thornton said. “They are trying to keep Planned Parenthood out as a Medicaid provider, which we understand is against the federal guidelines. It’s also against the guidelines to eliminate a Medicaid provider, because in Texas, the woman has a choice of Medicaid providers to go to.”

Thornton said it’s tragic Texas residents have to go through this battle for women to get basic health care, which is a human right. Planned Parenthood of Lubbock served 2,200 women with the program last year, Thornton said.

State law already forbids taxpayer money from going to organizations that provide abortions, so groups such as Planned Parenthood have established legally distinct corporations to separate family planning and women’s health providers from clinics that perform abortions. The law about to be enacted goes a step further to make any affiliation between a clinic and an abortion provider grounds for cutting off funding. That can mean sharing a name, employee or board member, even if the two clinics are legally and financially separate.

Alyssa Tochterman, a third-year medical student at the Texas Tech Health Sciences Center, spoke at the rally about her experience seeing local women with cervical cancer.

“There’s several thousand women here who rely on the program,” she said. “We’ll see an increase in the number of deaths due to cervical cancer, which is just ridiculous. We’ll see an increase in unintended pregnancy rates, when we’re already amongst the highest in the state.”

Davis spoke at the rally about her use of Planned Parenthood as a poor, young, single mother.

For several years, she said, it was the only access she had to health care. It helped her prevent unintended pregnancies and allowed her to not be in the situation of deciding whether to terminate a pregnancy.

“I understand how important the health care Planned Parenthood provides is to women who don’t have the ability to pay for health care,” she said.

The Medicaid Women’s Health Program had been expected to close next week.

Lubbock County Democratic Party Chair Pam Brink called Perry’s claim that he’ll find the money for the program “absolute hoo-ha.” She believes he’s trying to limit women’s rights.

“I think it is absolutely imperative women make decisions about their own health care,” she said. “They are full-blown citizens. They don’t need to have the state government imposing themselves on their bodies.”

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 4:54:59 AM   
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Kalikshama, I am so sorry for the women of Texas.
For that matter, in the long run this is going to cost the state a lot of money, as well as the citizens.
When you go to war with part of your own population (women), you cost everyone...
Hopefully women will vote Perry and friends out of power in Texas. The more women vote against these yahoo's, the sooner the idiocy ends.

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 6:35:15 AM   
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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 6:41:09 AM   
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Re Kali's post: Nice way to piss in the face of half of your constituency.

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 12:39:05 PM   
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And she seems to forget some of the degrading things that Ed Schultz and Bill Maher have said about women.


March 9, 2012

On his show tonight, Bill Maher says he's not defending Rush Limbaugh.

"I'm defending living in a country where people don't have to be afraid that they might go out of the bounds for one minute. Do we all want to be talking like White House spokesmen?

... I would rather put up with Rush Limbaugh and live in a country where people do have freedom of speech. And the people who I've heard who say 'You know what, when they put pressure on his sponsors the system is working' — no, it's not. That's the system being manipulated. I lived through that 10 years ago."

***

Here's Maher's tweet that people interpreted as defending Limbaugh.

Here's the information about what happened to Maher 10 years ago. His late-night ABC show "Politically Incorrect" was canceled after a controversy over an edgy remark he made one week after the September 11th. ("We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly.")

***

Maher went on to criticize that "fat fuck" Limbaugh: Right-wingers have made a "false equivalence" between Limbaugh and him. "I am a potty mouth. That's different from a misogynist."

Video: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/

Maher moved on to address the criticism he's received from the right. As Maher noted, every time one of "their guys" gets in trouble, they trot him out and play the false equivalency game. Maher said he would admit to being a "potty mouth" but not a misogynist, and that the word he said was not used on his show on HBO, but during one of his stand up acts, which he said "ought to be the last bastion of free speech." Maher noted that there's a reason he's compared to George Carlin, because he's a comedian, which Limbaugh is not, and "when you do that, I say, my rule is, you ought to get a little leeway."

Maher also recognized that what he said might have been offensive to all women but with a caveat:

MAHER: But if I offended women, I'm sorry. I have no problem saying I'm sorry. I don't know why women would want to align themselves with Sarah Palin. I don't know why an insult to her is an insult to all women, but if it is, I'm sorry.

[The clip also mentions a new AZ law, which I will detail subsequently; mentioning here so this post stays on topic]




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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 12:42:01 PM   
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lol, go Hlen!


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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 12:51:45 PM   
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lol, go Hlen!





Thanks to Lucylastic!!

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 12:53:41 PM   
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Arizona Senate Wants to Make it Legal for Doctors to Lie About Birth Defects to Prevent Abortions

Arizona's long nightmare of being outshone on the national nutbaggery stage has finally ended this week, as the state's Senate passed a bill that would essentially allow doctors to lie to women about birth defects in the name of preventing abortion. It's always nice to get a big Fuck You-gram from the state house.

The sponsor of the law, sensibly referred to as the "wrongful birth" bill, says it's designed to protect medical professionals from litigious parents of disabled children who blame the doctor when everyone knows that birth defects are caused by God, who is punishing women for having abortions. Opponents point out that "wrongful birth" lawsuits are rare and don't need to be combatted with their own legislation. And it's worth noting that, in theory, this law would make it legal for doctors interested in pushing their own agenda on parents to withhold information on anticipated birth defects they believe might lead the parents to choose to terminate their pregnancy.

So, if you're keeping score at home, thus far, various state governments think that the following entities are better at gauging what women should be doing with their body parts than women themselves: churches, bosses, parents, husbands, and doctors. And let's absolutely not forget state legislators.

Happy International Women's Day, sentient baby pods!


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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 12:55:11 PM   
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Arizona Senate Passes Bill Allowing Doctors To Not Inform Women Of Prenatal Issues To Prevent Abortions

It’s called a “wrongful birth” bill and it’s all about preventing women from having an abortion, even if it kills them. The Arizona Senate passed a bill this week that gives doctors a free pass to not inform pregnant women of prenatal problems because such information could lead to an abortion.

In other words, doctors can intentionally keep critical health information from pregnant women and can’t be sued for it. According to the Arizona Capitol Times, “the bill’s sponsor is Republican Nancy Barto of Phoenix. She says allowing the medical malpractice lawsuits endorses the idea that if a child is born with a disability, someone is to blame.” So Republicans are banning lawsuits against doctors who keep information from pregnant women so as to prevent them from choosing to have an abortion.

This bill is actually more disturbing than the Republicans seem to realize. Giving doctors such a free pass risks the lives of both the expectant mother and the fetus she carries. Prenatal care isn’t just for discovering birth defects and disabilities. It is also for discovering life threatening issues such as an ectopic pregnancy which often requires an abortion to save the life of the mother. With rare exceptions, ectopic pregnancies are not viable anyway, but Republicans are allowing anti-abortion doctors to keep life threatening information from pregnant women all because they are obsessed with stopping any and all abortions. Women may not know they have a life threatening condition until they die on the emergency room table. And the doctor couldn’t be sued.

This is an egregious bill that will lead to higher mortality rates for infants and mothers. Doctors should be held accountable for not disclosing information learned from prenatal examinations. Pregnant women have the right to know if their future child is going to have a disability or if the pregnancy may require an induced abortion to save their lives. Any decision that is made as a result of the information is the mothers own. Doctors should not be allowed to make decisions for pregnant women as a way to prevent abortions. Women have the right to make their own health decisions and hiding critical information is irresponsible, unconscionable, and risks lives. In the end, Republicans are only putting more lives in jeopardy. They might as well call this the ‘let women die’ bill.

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 12:56:54 PM   
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Arizona Senate Wants to Make it Legal for Doctors to Lie About Birth Defects to Prevent Abortions

Arizona's long nightmare of being outshone on the national nutbaggery stage has finally ended this week, as the state's Senate passed a bill that would essentially allow doctors to lie to women about birth defects in the name of preventing abortion. It's always nice to get a big Fuck You-gram from the state house.

The sponsor of the law, sensibly referred to as the "wrongful birth" bill, says it's designed to protect medical professionals from litigious parents of disabled children who blame the doctor when everyone knows that birth defects are caused by God, who is punishing women for having abortions. Opponents point out that "wrongful birth" lawsuits are rare and don't need to be combatted with their own legislation. And it's worth noting that, in theory, this law would make it legal for doctors interested in pushing their own agenda on parents to withhold information on anticipated birth defects they believe might lead the parents to choose to terminate their pregnancy.

So, if you're keeping score at home, thus far, various state governments think that the following entities are better at gauging what women should be doing with their body parts than women themselves: churches, bosses, parents, husbands, and doctors. And let's absolutely not forget state legislators.

Happy International Women's Day, sentient baby pods!




I'm so tired...........(love the "baby pod"!!)......

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 1:06:24 PM   
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I need to take a break from the computer after reading the link on this new thread:

southern poverty law center categorizes virulently hateful "men's right groups" as hate groups

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4056712/tm.htm

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 1:13:12 PM   
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I had an ectopic pregnancy after I was sterilised.
It almost killed me, I wasnt sposed to be pregnant, I didnt know I was until I woke up from the surgery, after it ruptured the tube it was growing in. I almost lost an ovary at 30..I had an infection for months after. the pain before surgery was worse than childbirth.
Again, too many cunts making decisions they know nothing about and too few vaginas.
my ectopic "baby" was the size of a orange. It wasnt implanted in the uterus, it wasnt viable, it ruptured , I was lucky I didnt get peritonitis and it took a toll on me for three years.
You can probably tell, Im not in favour of this bill. Its abhorant and murderous.

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RE: Maddow takes a look at GOP war on women - 3/10/2012 1:21:20 PM   
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I'm so sorry that happened, Lucy.

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