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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/17/2012 5:42:07 PM   
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Once again: The issue is: Do we force - by means of law - a religion to violate its own tenents? Do we violate the sanctity of religious freedom by forcing them - by means of law - to act as a conduit for what they consider to be sin?


We "force" them all the time.

Sharia law
Human sacrifices
Polygamy
Incest ... http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy25.html
Drug use

None of these are considered "a sin" by their respective religions.. yet they are banned and illegal. So, yes, we do tell religions what they can and cannot do everyday.

Hopefully, someone will show you this. Its a shame you continue on so uninformed.

You forgot about the handling of poisonous snakes in public. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUdc5h10zTo

Probable Santorum voters here.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/17/2012 8:42:28 PM   
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someone PLEASE repost that they DO cover mens vasectomies at PP
he has me on ignore
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/vasectomy-4249.htm
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/centralnc/vasectomy-20843.htm
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/illinois/vasectomy-male-permanent-sterilization-38251.htm

wilful lack of knowledge should be pointed out



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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/17/2012 9:01:37 PM   
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........................You forgot about the handling of poisonous snakes in public. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUdc5h10zTo

Probable Santorum voters here.



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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/17/2012 9:38:23 PM   
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someone PLEASE repost that they DO cover mens vasectomies at PP
he has me on ignore
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/vasectomy-4249.htm
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/centralnc/vasectomy-20843.htm
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/illinois/vasectomy-male-permanent-sterilization-38251.htm

wilful lack of knowledge should be pointed out



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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/17/2012 10:35:34 PM   
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Arent those cancer sticks he is sucking on in his pics??? How much does it cost to treat someone for a preventable cancer and care???

My post earlier got me thinking.. my mother stopped smoking about 20 or 25 years ago.. about a year before she died of heart failure, she had an emergency operation for stomach cancer.. I had to google.. now i see that cancer can kill a person even 30 years after they quit.. So.. that costs insurance companies big time.. the costs of birth control for insurance corps is peanuts in comparision.. I wonder how many of the GOPers are chain smoking them cancer sticks..

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 4:36:36 AM   
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I wonder how many GOPers support Tobacco Subsidies. And let's talk about Diesel Exhaust and poor kids living in cities getting asthma... Shouldn't we banning these killers from our streets?

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:15:12 AM   
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Because it makes the people arguing against it sound like they're making a rational argument, rather than believing that the renaissance and the various forms of social progress that followed it over the next five hundred odd years was a bad thing, I'd suspect.


I really hope this one was overreaching enough to stop the progress of the Dark Ages 2.0 movement.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:21:23 AM   
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People who say that they're paying for other people's insurance premiums are lying.



Not a single person has claimed to be paying for other people's insurance premiums. That's a strawman, pure and simple.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:24:03 AM   
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Why is how much extra it is going to cost only an issue for reproductive care?



It's not. My insurance coverage charges higher premiums for smokers than non-smokers. I think applying that logic to other services or at risk factors would be a fair way of handling it.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:25:49 AM   
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Why is how much extra it is going to cost only an issue for reproductive care?



It's not. My insurance coverage charges higher premiums for smokers than non-smokers. I think applying that logic to other services or at risk factors would be a fair way of handling it.

Except that in reproductive care, men are free riders (so to speak...). Fairly, this cost should be shared.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:26:49 AM   
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Except that in reproductive care, men are free riders (so to speak...). Fairly, this cost should be shared.



I certainly am not a "free rider" so to speak, so why should I share that cost?

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:28:18 AM   
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People who say that they're paying for other people's insurance premiums are lying.



Not a single person has claimed to be paying for other people's insurance premiums. That's a strawman, pure and simple.

He's talking about the debate nationally, not just in this thread, and yes, more than "a single person" have raised that complaint.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:29:47 AM   
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Why is how much extra it is going to cost only an issue for reproductive care?



It's not. My insurance coverage charges higher premiums for smokers than non-smokers. I think applying that logic to other services or at risk factors would be a fair way of handling it.


Those who get insurance coverage thru a group plan pay the same whether they are skinny or fat or smoke or dont or drink or don't.
You must have an individual plan.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:29:51 AM   
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Except that in reproductive care, men are free riders (so to speak...). Fairly, this cost should be shared.



I certainly am not a "free rider" so to speak, so why should I share that cost?

Irony. You just explained what a free rider is.

Ever have sex? Did you chip in for reproductive care?

If you're a virgin, and planning to remain one, then OK.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:32:46 AM   
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If you're a virgin, and planning to remain one, then OK.



Yep, first of all.

And second, around here anyways, it's not unusual to see guys being the ones to buy the condoms. :p

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:33:51 AM   
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If that's the extent of your knowledge about female reproductive care, get used to being a virgin.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:35:43 AM   
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If that's the extent of your knowledge about female reproductive care, get used to being a virgin.



You're making a big assumption there about my knowledge of female reproductive care.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:39:51 AM   
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I'm really not. And the statement was conditional (look up "if") on your statement.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:44:58 AM   
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It seemed an awful lot like a rhetorical conditional, my bad if it wasn't intended that way.

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RE: Rush Suggests GOP Is Not Anti-Woman Because Republi... - 3/18/2012 9:56:21 AM   
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Why is how much extra it is going to cost only an issue for reproductive care?



It's not. My insurance coverage charges higher premiums for smokers than non-smokers. I think applying that logic to other services or at risk factors would be a fair way of handling it.


Then you agree that women on birth control should pay less than those who are not... since pregnancy and delivery, as well as the included infant now covered by the policy, adds to the cost.


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