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kalikshama -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 8:51:51 AM)
quote: Maybe i'll even post pictures of my shiney new digs for you all when it's clean. Take some Before pictures too! Re: the laundry - I get hung up with not folding and putting away laundry too. But I love TV shows like Judge Judy and just resolve to do it then.

hausboy -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 9:33:17 AM)
For decluttering, I used the 4 corners method. I cleared away a space in four corners of my basement. I hung signs in each corner--KEEP, DONATE or SELL, TRASH/DUMP, DECIDE IN 7 DAYS. The rules were as follows---the Keep pile had to be the smallest pile. Once an item went into the Donate or Trash, it could not go to KEEP. (Keep Items could go somewhere else) Like others, if I haven't worn it, used it, needed it in 2 years...it went to donate or dump. I had two yard sales, the rest went on Freecycle.com or donated to Salvation Army/Goodwill stores. For the personal "Stuff"-- if it didn't bring me joy...if it aroused bad or sad memories....or if I was only keeping it because someone gave it to me (a sense of obligation), it WENT. Only items with purpose or those that evoked happiness could stay. Duplicates also had to go. (If I had two sets of measuring cups...one set had to go) I did a small portion each week, and if it was too hard or got too emotional, I took a break. But when the momentum was good, I kept it going as long as possible.

Toppingfrmbottom -> Yay i actually threw stuff i might be tempted to pack rat away. (3/24/2012 10:32:59 AM)
a nice enough leather flogger got damaged by mice in storage last year an i been angsty over getting rid of it, an i finally just threw it away.

mynxkat -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 10:38:12 AM)
One issue that's been mentioned several times here, but that I've avoided so far I think I'll bring up now. TFTB, you've got some gread support going here, if you'll use it. You've mentioned several times here, and I gather in other threads as well that your partner suffers from serious depression, and I also gather that he refuses to seek treatment for it. I'd like to quote something from your profile. quote: NO SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESSES. Or ones that interfere regularly with your life. Serious mental illnesses and ones that interferes with your life regularly are deal breakers.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 10:39:46 AM)
i do have em those just arwe not for show lol. quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: Maybe i'll even post pictures of my shiney new digs for you all when it's clean. Take some Before pictures too! Re: the laundry - I get hung up with not folding and putting away laundry too. But I love TV shows like Judge Judy and just resolve to do it then. quote: d the 4 corners method. I cleared away a space in four corners of my baseme n

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 11:36:28 AM)
Thank you. my dad and i tackled the pantry and it wasn't fun but it went quickly and we got a lot done before we knew we were tired. It's not perfect, but it's better than before, you can walk through it now an a lot of stuff was thrown away and organized and the floor swept. Tomorrow or Monday, or both we'll tackle some more quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ http://www.makeitfunanditwillgetdone.com/ This may help as well.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 11:41:48 AM)
For the longest time he couldn't afford treatment he had no health insurance, and couldn't afford to get any. He just now qualifies for health insurance through his work, and he can hardly afford it now, but it's cheaper than a private insurance company that doesn't go through his work. I told him on Monday he needs to call the people he needs to talk to an go in for an appointment to see the Dr, I don't think he can admit outright he's had depression all his life cause then blue cross can refuse to cover his pych meds, cause right now in the state of CA health insurances can refuse you coverage if you have been treated for pre existing conditions, so i don't know what blue cross would do if it comes out he's had depression all his life, but he can tell the dr he's been feeling depressed for ages, answer the dr's questions and hopefully the dr will prescribe something. To be 100 percent honest, i put that on my profile because I was fed up with my partners mental illness going un treated and the bomb wreck it made a lot of times, so any future engagements, friends, friends with benefits, mentors, , whatever it may be, i can't deal with their severe mental shit going un controlled. i deal with it all the time at home, it's exhausting. quote: ORIGINAL: mynxkat One issue that's been mentioned several times here, but that I've avoided so far I think I'll bring up now. TFTB, you've got some gread support going here, if you'll use it. You've mentioned several times here, and I gather in other threads as well that your partner suffers from serious depression, and I also gather that he refuses to seek treatment for it. I'd like to quote something from your profile. quote: NO SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESSES. Or ones that interfere regularly with your life. Serious mental illnesses and ones that interferes with your life regularly are deal breakers.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 11:58:15 AM)
I don't. I don't have any real life friends. Other than my daddy. I used to have one person i had considered a best friend, but she was a user and a flake who'd only call or come over when she wanted something from me and as time wore on that got worse an worse.. We had previously been friends since high school, i was 19 and she was in 1 of my classes so i saw her all the time, hung out wit her at lunch all the time. She'd always been kind of flakey jake, looking back even then, but it's easy to hang out with and be friends with someone you see every day. Once we got out of school we stil lhung around and stuff but it became less frequent, until it came to the point if we ever saw one another , it was because i called her, and even then sometimes she was "to busy" and only dropped everything to come over when i started offering to pay her to help me clean house, because one day she mentioned she wouldn't mind helping me and would only ask a small amount of money. She'd always say i miss you, we should hang out, i love you like family, but when i asked her if she wanted to come over an have lunch, she was " to busy" just t o find out she'd gone to the mall to hang out with some guy she was cheating on her bf with, or that she'd already made plans with another best friend, when she's busy an says she'll call me back, months go by before i hear from her again if i am not the one to track her down. Every time i see her, she's always asking me for something, oh since you don't use it could i have your sewing machine, I told her no, but then she was hinting around how she wanted to learn to sew and oh could i have some of your fabric? The kicker was i offered her 4 black 30 gallon trash bags of fabric at one point, all she had to do was come over and get it and she could never be bothered to call me to come pick it up. So later on when she started asking me if she could have this fabric, or that fabric, i was pretty peeved. I haven't heard from her in months after she stood me up and never called, and one of the first things she said was if we have any chicken eggs we want to give away, give her a hollar she'd be glad to take any we can't eat. In my head i was thinking REALLY? You stand me up don't make good on your promise to finish the job you started, don't call me for months, an you have the gall to ask me for stuff? It still hurts a lot how it turned out because we've known each other for 11 years and I was a true friend, and she was a flake an a user. But that still doesn't mean i won't pick up one portion of something a day, put on some good music, that makes my spirits feel good an go to it. We can't afford therapy, i was going every week and the lowest sliding scale they had was 25 dollars a week. And even if you only went once every two weeks, it was still a lot of money. Most places, don't even have sliding scales, they're 80 to 90 dollars an hour, more if you get someone who's a specialist, I've seen them go for 100 dolllars an hour. And a lot of them are across town from us. Kiaser has a free therapist but you only get to see them once a month, and i am going to her, but i do not think once a month is truely often enough to seriously acomplish anything, and then when trauma's come up, she's not there to talk to soon after, like our old therapist was. I remember one time after a particularly bad fight with Daddy i Called out therapist, and she was free to talk, so she talked to me. And she never wanted extra money, she cared that much about her patients and considered some of us friends, in a professional way. Dr oChoa, isn't at all like that, if you need to talk to her she will try to schedual you in as an emergency appointment but even as an emergency it could take you weeks to get into see her. I miss our old therapist, i loved going to her, and i loved that she was availible to talk if you needed her , then, and not months later. Unfortunately she quit seeing patients due to a life crisis of her own. quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady You can pick one thing each day that you are going to completely clean, like putting all the laundry away and straightening out the dressers/closet. Once it is clean, it is less work to keep it that way, and move on to the next thing. The problem is that you really don't know where to start and are so overwhelmed by the current mess you can't bear to get started. Surely you must have one friend who can come over and help or at least keep you company? Play music, like you said and let it help motivate you. Your partner is obviously not going to help you clean, nor is he going to get help for his depression. You need to decide if you are so desperate to be in a relationship that you want to live like this. If you are, then this is going to be as good as it gets unless you resign yourself to trailing behind him and cleaning up his messes. If you aren't, then you need to kick his lazy ass to the curb and work on yourself. The latter would be a healthier choice for you, but I have my doubts that you will be able to do it. With your disability, you should still be in regular counseling, occupational therapy type things. Speak with your case worker and explain that you need some help getting your shit together and see if there isn't someone who can come and teach you some organizational skills. Part of being an independent grown up is being able to care for yourself. That means you need to learn how to keep house and cook relatively healthy meals for yourself. It also means having the maturity to know if someone in your life is inhibiting your ability to do that. I'm deleriously happy living on my own. Any mess that is in my house is of my own making and if I have any friends come over, they will not leave a mess or they won't be invited back. When there is clutter all around you, it clutters your mind as well. When living with a severely depressed person, it will bring you down, rather that you bringing them up. Is this truly how you want to live your life? quote: and move on to the next thing. The problem is that you really don't know where to start and are so overwhelmed by the current mess you can't bear to get

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 12:13:16 PM)
Daddy cut down on drinking a lot of soda, the cans were our real "money maker" One time 5 bags of cans and 5 bags of water bottles net us 45 dollars, and we went out to eat. Another time we'd been saving them in anticipation of the state fair, and he used the cans and water bottle money to supplement the money he'd saved for our event. Our cans are also often our saftey net, for example if you're really, really low on money I'm talking about you only have 5 dollars to your name, and you need gas an can't get gas, go cash in the cans and bottles and you usually will get about 20 bucks, and that's enough gas to get you through the need gas, got no cash issue. Aluminum cans are at an all time high 2 dollars a pound, and i lament sometimes that he stopped drinking so much soda, cause back in the day when he was a soda drinking machine, 2 dollars a pound would have gone a loooooooooooooooooooooong way in "mad money or rainy day money" quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama ps - he bought all the recyclables - I don't drink soda or beer - but since I take them in, I keep the money. In my state, every place that sells returnables has to accept them, so I just spend a few minutes at the machines when I go to the supermarket. quote: cyclables - I don't drink soda or beer - but since I take them in, I keep the money. In my state, every place that sells returnables has to accept them, so I just spend a few minutes at the machines when I go to the supermarket.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 12:16:27 PM)
Our problem was, I'd sit in bed and fold them to catch up with all the folding that needed doing, an then tell daddy ok i folded them now can you put them away please? and he'd say yes an then never get around to doing it, so say 4 months later the same basket of laundry is sitting somewhere waiting to be put away. And the laundry baskets then get to heavy for me to carry. Or I get overwhelmed trying to fold it all an put it all away right then. One of the biggest changes i am going to try to make is the path to the clothing cabnits have to stay clean , and once i wash something it will be put away right then. If he wants his clothing all over in piles and un known where it is, go right ahead, when you can't find your clothing it's not on me lol. quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama the laundry - I get hung up with not folding and putting away laundry too. But I love TV shows like Judge Judy and just resolve to do it then.

mynxkat -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 12:46:18 PM)
TFTB, I sent you a message on the other side.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 1:09:16 PM)
I answered.

Musicmystery -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 1:11:22 PM)
quote: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? Clothed or nude? [:D]

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 1:22:11 PM)
Well a friend of mine used to get nearly naked with me an clean house, but we did that because it was hot with no ac, not because it was sexy lol. quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? Clothed or nude? [:D]

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 1:24:50 PM)
I think I gave the wrong impression when i said we've had mice problems before because we live in the country, and someone thought, evidently, i just put up with them, and said it was no excuse to live with rodents and put up with them. we kill the lil fuckers with traps and posion stuff. we don't tolerate them , or put up with them or live with them, We do what we can to keep them out, but in storage area's they damaged a lot before we found out we had a problem, because the storage unit was way back at the back of the property and wasn't something we went into a lot.

Ishtarr -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 1:47:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom Yes, i believe it's his job to help out in here, specially when he's a slob and will just come and undo everything i just did. When I say i get no help , i'm not talking about he'll do dishes but won't do laundry, or he'll do laundry but won't make the bed, i mean he's absolutely no help, the house could be falling down around our ears an he will rarely if never lift a finger to help out with out me badgering him to death. quote: ORIGINAL: lizi Is it honestly your partner's job to help you with the cleaning when he's the one working and bringing home the only source of income the two of you have? He GOES to work. He's gone 8 hours or more a day WORKING. You have the time he has to be at work to sit around and do nothing, entertain yourself with things you WANT to do. Teach yourself this very simple rule: you're expected to put in as many hours of housework and cooking as he is putting into working. So if he works 8 hours, you do 8 hours of cooking and housework. After you both have worked an EQUAL amount of time, all housework beyond that gets split in half and he has to help do it. I guarantee you that your house will have never been as spotless before, because there is just no fucking way that you can clean 8 hours a day and have ANYTHING left for him to help with when he comes home. You're nagging and complaining about him not lifting a finger to help, but in reality its you who isn't doing your fair share. You're expecting him to work 8 hours a day + help out an hour a day + travel to and from work = him spending at least 9 hours or more a day WORKING; while you do an hour of housework (if that) and then expect him to do half? It's a wonder that he's putting up with you displaying such an attitude, I'd go beyond saying you're being lazy. I think you're being a leech.

angelikaJ -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 1:47:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom For the longest time he couldn't afford treatment he had no health insurance, and couldn't afford to get any. He just now qualifies for health insurance through his work, and he can hardly afford it now, but it's cheaper than a private insurance company that doesn't go through his work. I told him on Monday he needs to call the people he needs to talk to an go in for an appointment to see the Dr, I don't think he can admit outright he's had depression all his life cause then blue cross can refuse to cover his pych meds, cause right now in the state of CA health insurances can refuse you coverage if you have been treated for pre existing conditions, so i don't know what blue cross would do if it comes out he's had depression all his life, but he can tell the dr he's been feeling depressed for ages, answer the dr's questions and hopefully the dr will prescribe something. To be 100 percent honest, i put that on my profile because I was fed up with my partners mental illness going un treated and the bomb wreck it made a lot of times, so any future engagements, friends, friends with benefits, mentors, , whatever it may be, i can't deal with their severe mental shit going un controlled. i deal with it all the time at home, it's exhausting. quote: ORIGINAL: mynxkat One issue that's been mentioned several times here, but that I've avoided so far I think I'll bring up now. TFTB, you've got some gread support going here, if you'll use it. You've mentioned several times here, and I gather in other threads as well that your partner suffers from serious depression, and I also gather that he refuses to seek treatment for it. I'd like to quote something from your profile. quote: NO SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESSES. Or ones that interfere regularly with your life. Serious mental illnesses and ones that interferes with your life regularly are deal breakers. http://www.namicalifornia.org/ Call them. They will be able to tell you how to best handle the pre-existing condition stuff with your daddy... as well as checking on resources to see if you can get into counseling more often.

risktaker9 -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 2:04:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom Daddy cut down on drinking a lot of soda, the cans were our real "money maker" One time 5 bags of cans and 5 bags of water bottles net us 45 dollars, and we went out to eat. Another time we'd been saving them in anticipation of the state fair, and he used the cans and water bottle money to supplement the money he'd saved for our event. Our cans are also often our saftey net, for example if you're really, really low on money I'm talking about you only have 5 dollars to your name, and you need gas an can't get gas, go cash in the cans and bottles and you usually will get about 20 bucks, and that's enough gas to get you through the need gas, got no cash issue. Aluminum cans are at an all time high 2 dollars a pound, and i lament sometimes that he stopped drinking so much soda, cause back in the day when he was a soda drinking machine, 2 dollars a pound would have gone a loooooooooooooooooooooong way in "mad money or rainy day money" Can you honestly not see how the two of you not buying soda would save more money than buying it and then cashing in the cans? Do you honestly think it's acceptable not to put wash away for 4 months? Do you think throwing away a small, damaged flogger is making headway with your hoarding issues? Do you honestly think that people leave half full bottles and cans lying around in quantity till it's time to recycle them? How can you think it's normal not to be able to walk through the rooms/closets/pantries/etc of your home because of clutter and filth? You recycled cans because you needed money and spent it on...going out for dinner? Really? Getting some groceries or something useful never crossed your mind? How about paying for therapy instead of having a dinner out and making a sandwich instead? It's too heavy for you to carry a laundry basket? Seriously, this is science fiction stuff, completely incomprehensible. The two of you are like children with no thought to tomorrow and no responsibility to anything. You come here when you are wanting to make things better which is great, but nothing meaningful ever happens. I remember all the cooking threads, seems that it's all stopped now and you're back to spending money on prepared food and compromising your health again as well by eating that type of thing. Yeah, I get how hard it is to do things, we all do, we've all had to do them on a continual basis. It's called life. I understand people have issues but this is nuts. Your outlook on what is acceptable, and your problem solving skills seem to be rooted in a huge sea of laziness. Things don't get done or planned out accordingly because its just too hard to make the effort. Nothing will ever change here until you both accept that life is hard, it'll never stop being hard, and you need to buckle down and get your acts together. Call it mean if you like but the more you post on this thread the more surreal it gets. I would never in my life, ever, sink this low. People with problems can and do much better than this, and you two can too.

ShaharThorne -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 4:51:31 PM)
TFB, do what I do with my yarn and books. STORAGE BINS! We have a mouse problem in Grandma's old house that we are using as a storage shed. Any cardboard boxes will allow those pests in because they will chew them. The bins are hard plastic so no holes and my books and yarns are safe. One thing to consider is to sell your fabric on ebay. Not everyplace has the same fabrics and quilters are known for shopping on there.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: how much do most maid cleaning services cost? (3/24/2012 5:52:02 PM)
Yup, anything that was in a 45 gallon plastic packer and had a lid on was safe from the mice an rats, it was stuff that didn't have lids or was cardboard the destroyed. quote: ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne TFB, do what I do with my yarn and books. STORAGE BINS! We have a mouse problem in Grandma's old house that we are using as a storage shed. Any cardboard boxes will allow those pests in because they will chew them. The bins are hard plastic so no holes and my books and yarns are safe.

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