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Abortion Permission Slips from Men

And if you’re not fully convinced yet that Alaska is the next front in the GOP’s war on women, you just have to listen to State Rep. Alan Dick. He said in a House Health and Social Services Committee Hearing last week that he doesn’t believe that when a woman is pregnant, it’s really “her pregnancy.” As a matter of fact, he would advocate for criminalizing women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her. He stated, “If I thought that the man’s signature was required...required, in order for a woman to have an abortion, I’d have a little more peace about it...” He didn’t say whether a rapist would be able to send his signature by fax from prison, or not. But he’ll have “peace” and women will require a permission slip for their own bodies.

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

Criminalize women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her

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Abortion Permission Slips from Men

And if you’re not fully convinced yet that Alaska is the next front in the GOP’s war on women, you just have to listen to State Rep. Alan Dick. He said in a House Health and Social Services Committee Hearing last week that he doesn’t believe that when a woman is pregnant, it’s really “her pregnancy.” As a matter of fact, he would advocate for criminalizing women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her. He stated, “If I thought that the man’s signature was required...required, in order for a woman to have an abortion, I’d have a little more peace about it...” He didn’t say whether a rapist would be able to send his signature by fax from prison, or not. But he’ll have “peace” and women will require a permission slip for their own bodies To kill a child that someone else helped to create and may want.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
With an exception for incest and rape, I support the idea that the man who had something to do with creating that life should have something to do with the decision-making about it. That's the responsibility that should be shoulder when two people agree to have sex.
Her body. Our child. Our choice.
Peace and comfort,
Michael

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

Criminalize women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her

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Abortion Permission Slips from Men

And if you’re not fully convinced yet that Alaska is the next front in the GOP’s war on women, you just have to listen to State Rep. Alan Dick. He said in a House Health and Social Services Committee Hearing last week that he doesn’t believe that when a woman is pregnant, it’s really “her pregnancy.” As a matter of fact, he would advocate for criminalizing women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her. He stated, “If I thought that the man’s signature was required...required, in order for a woman to have an abortion, I’d have a little more peace about it...” He didn’t say whether a rapist would be able to send his signature by fax from prison, or not. But he’ll have “peace” and women will require a permission slip for their own bodies To kill a child that someone else helped to create and may want.

With an exception for incest and rape, I support the idea that the man who had something to do with creating that life should have something to do with the decision-making about it. That's the responsibility that should be shoulder when two people agree to have sex.

Her body. Our child. Our choice.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

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ORIGINAL: xssve
Presumably that would also require the man take on full financial responsibility, and if he didn't it would be criminal negligence and child abuse.

Otherwise, a policy like this can only be described as a cynical ploy to provide more grist for the fostercare human trafficking mill.

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
With an exception for incest and rape, I support the idea that the man who had something to do with creating that life should have something to do with the decision-making about it. That's the responsibility that should be shoulder when two people agree to have sex.
Her body. Our child. Our choice.
Peace and comfort,
Michael

The choice should be made by the man and the woman if the sex was consensual - and no one else.

The choice should be made by the woman alone if the sex was not consensual - and no one else.

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

IASM, Im still wondering in the case of someone like me

Where having a child would kill me, Do I still need a permission slip?

If my partner refuses to sign it, am i required to do something that will kill me and the fetus because he says no?

Is he then on the hook for two counts of murder, because his decision caused mine and the childs death?

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I say the father should be able to abort any mother that aborts his child without permission.

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Presumably that would also require the man take on full financial responsibility, and if he didn't it would be criminal negligence and child abuse.

I cannot think of a comment I have read on this site I would be more supportive of.
If a man impregnates a woman by accident or intent…he has voluntarily or involuntarily made himself responsible to the woman and hopefully his healthy born offspring. Should there be a complication with his offspring’s birth; the man is no less responsible in determining the resolution of that complication.

< Message edited by Arienos -- 3/22/2012 7:49:05 AM >

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Presumably that would also require the man take on full financial responsibility, and if he didn't it would be criminal negligence and child abuse.

I cannot think of a comment I have read on this site I would be more supportive of.
If a man impregnates a woman by accident or intent…he has voluntarily or involuntarily made himself responsible to the woman and hopefully his healthy born offspring. Should there be a complication with his offspring’s birth; the man is no less responsible in determining the resolution of that complication.

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Again pretty words, but that just isn't enough. If I were a woman denied an abortion by a one nighter, and faced with the burden of carrying and raising an unplanned child, I would want to know for sure that I would not be wasting time for the next 20 years chasing down some deadbeat

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Don't you agree that if the man refuses to let a woman get an abortion (it sears my soul to write those words) he should have to prove up front that he has the wherewithal to pay for the kid?