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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 4/30/2012 10:18:45 PM

Arturas

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ORIGINAL: Zensualista

Has he mastered himself? Does he want to lose 10 lbs. or quit smoking? If someone can't take control of themselves, then they shouldn't be in control of others.

This.

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/7/2012 1:41:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

A master has mastered themselves.

But what if you don't have MPD?

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/7/2012 3:11:20 PM

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Tme, getting to know each other, don't rush in.

be wary of "sub frenzy", when it's all shiny and new and common sense can go out of the window...

You say he's been your Master for about a week, how long have you known him prior?

People view the term "Master" differently also and thats ok.. for some they have kinky sex once a week and call their man Master, others it is a very different meaning.

Personally for me I view my collar as a life commitment, like an engagement or wedding ring... for me calling him my Owner was not something I rushed..

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/8/2012 7:34:03 PM

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Some great comments here to help people on their way. I have a few bullets to add to the discussion for others who may be asking themselves similar questions.

1. Read Dark Steven's post. Probably the the most concisely comprehensive, traditional, and accurate description of an ideal 'master' philosophy. (IMHO)

2. The words 'Fake' and 'True Master' imply a comparison with some standard that already exists in your mind (and we all have one that is unique to ourselves). Try sitting down and listing the critical elements that make up that standard, then rephrase them as a list of job requirements. If you are seeking a 'master' use the list as a screener as you make your initial contacts to help ensure you are going to have your needs met. If you are already in a contract/relationship, compare the list with your actual experiences. If there is a gap, it doesn't make the person a fake, just perhaps not the best person for your needs.

3. Be careful when applying the word 'fake' to people. It is very pejorative and very disrespectful. I'm not talking about the respect due a master from a sub, but the kind due any human being from another. We all live in a community that is frequently the subject of disrespect if not downright disdain from our vanilla brethren. If there is any group who should be able to recognize that 'different from my idea' does not equal 'less than,' it should be us. So long as a person is being true to themselves and their desires, they are not 'fake', merely at some point on their own journey that may or may not sync with our own.

4. See 'true to themselves' above... Feel free to continue to call outright liars 'fakes'.

5. While I am usually a strictly rational and analytical being, I believe this is an area where your instinct can be an accurate and reliable judge. If you find yourself truly desiring to please your 'master,' take pride in doing so, and in being his/hers, you are in a good place. If not.... perhaps you should consider some open and honest communication.

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/8/2012 8:06:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

A master has mastered themselves.

But what if you don't have MPD?

K.

This was brilliant.^^

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/8/2012 8:31:11 PM

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DarkSteven and bd4m

Everyone had given such good adivce , the two above give it real, I think when she says fakes and yes there
are many fakes master! This is the reasone why I say this, there are some very sick people as someone wrote up at the post!
Some men and women will beat you, hurt you in ways not dealing with BDSM! They will beat a person and becasue they
have this person kneeeing in fear, and fear is not apart of our lifestlye! Someone told me a story where he thought
he was getting into a realitionship with a dominiate women, and trust this woman, she tied him down and he knew this was a part of it but she raped him and
he could not get away!!! This was not part of the plan he was so terriferd and emotional and hurt in his body! She led him to beleive
that this was not going to happen! No pleasure was given only a nightmare that made him firghten to be what he was a submissive! Whom
only wanted a dominant whom would lead him and teach him slowly! This is what I think the post meant, there are many other things i would write about
and how someone hurt someone just to be hurting in a diguse of BDSM! Someone whom is true will show and help a submissive learn what
he or she wants, listening to their hard limits and soft limits! Lead them the ways how to be what they want, So in my opinion there are some monster
out there! Submissve people are strong and they have taken they strenghts and are willing to search for that person whom will lead them in the right
dircetions

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/10/2012 2:14:12 PM

samhna

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TRUST.

If you cannot put 100% of your trust in this man, then he is not the Master you seek. You should talk this through with him and if you still do not feel totaly confident then you know in your heart that it he is not the right one.

"Decide in haste, repent at leisure!"

Saludos desde España.

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/10/2012 3:26:02 PM

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A Master has years of experience, under 30 years are suspect.

A Master does not take subs under consideration, consideration of what..............????

A Master has credability, easily identified.

A Master works safe with his slaves and subs.

A Master does not train or own or use worthless women, why would a Master want a worthless asset.

Five to go on with, Master can add another hundred, a master is not a Dom, a Master passed that stage many years ago.

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/10/2012 3:30:26 PM

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How this Master has got this stupid vanilla ice cream, because ice cream is not permitted in Masters Dungeons,

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/10/2012 3:41:34 PM

hardcybermaster

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ORIGINAL: bitchdog4master

I think she may be referring to Men on here who are very young and claim to have been Masters all there life.
There are many fakes/flakes/wannabes on here and other sites also.
An experienced sub. or slave can weed them out after a few conversations or even one meet.
I have had many Dom's/ Masters tell me there are some very ill people out there who use sites like this and others as an avenue to fine and just beat the hell out of Women.
Not far fetched in my opine as I am a true crime buff and part time paralegal.
Wish I had a concert and tangible answer for her.

are there many paralegals whose spelling and grammar are as piss poor as yours? Maybe if you used spell check you could get a full time job?

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/10/2012 4:13:24 PM

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The same way you would tell if a vanilla boyfriend was just using you for sex and didn't actually give a fuck about you.

A BDSM relationship has no rules, it is what you want it to be. So decide what you want yours to be, then accept nothing less than that.

Thank you. This is a great response.

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RE: how to know a true master and a fake - 5/11/2012 5:47:46 PM

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A Real Master eats nails and shits tacks.
A Real Master has a heart tatoo with "Mom" written in the middle.
A Real Master looks like an Ambercrombie & Fitch model, with perfect body fat % and washboard abs.
A Real Master calls his subs/slaves "My Bitches", and says it at least three times a conversation.
A Real Master has a mullet, and constantly warns everyone around them, "This is how 'they' get you" especially when conversing with waitstaff and cashiers
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A Real Master shows his cock on his profile picture. In fact, he wanders around displaying it publicly as often as possible.

A Real Master lives in a plantation mansion, has several subs who are all mute, and communicate through tapping.

A Real Master expects high heels 24/7, especially in the shower and bed. Pay attention ladies, this is how you spot the fakes!!!

A Real Master has a dungeon, anyone claiming to be a master without a dungeon is obviously a fake.
A Real Master has perfect relatives. It's not them, it's you. Comport yourself. Bitch.
A Real Master doesnt do manual labor, he has someone else to do it. We're special afterall.
A Real Master has a wife and kids, and they are totally fine with him having casual debaucherous sex with another person.

A Real Master is deeply religeous. And you'll burn in hell if you don't put it in your mouth. Jesus would want you to. Ect;..

A Real Master doesn't eat pussy or suck cock. Oral sex is for bottom feeders and slaves.
A Real Master has no life skills, other than attracting lovers obviously. That's what the lovers are for, to take care of the master!

A Real Master isnt affraid to cam with you.
A Real Master never apologizes. Ever. It's not our fault, it's yours. Comport yourself. Bitch.
A Real Master doesnt need to be taught anything. Never point out what we are doing may cause bodily harm or injury. We are perfect.

A Real Master doesn't take any shit from anyone, especially from valets and bank tellers.
A Real Master tells you all about his past conquests. And Constantly reminds you how much better at everything they were than you are.

A Real Master has many slaves, and numbers them so as not to have to remember names.
A Real Master has to write "True Master" down and tell everyone around them, so others won't confuse them with fakes.

A Real Master collars every submissive he meets, quickly, and without investigation. The more collared sluts a Master has, the "realer" he gets.

A Real Master has to list all the reasons why he's a real master. This helps all the idiots out there who can't see how obviously awesome he is.

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