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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 12:31:24 AM   
truckinslave


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Martin's reasonable fear of being stalked at night is sufficient grounds for Martin to do anything necessary to ensure his safety.


Yeah. Too bad he didn't have a gun. He could just have shot Zimmerman instead of attacking him and trying to take his gun.

What?? WHAT??? I love feeding trolls.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 12:33:36 AM   
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They can go to the Grand Jury with very little and get an indictment.  Getting that indictment allows them to make more discovery demands, because he is already charged.


It also protects them from a false arrest suit.
It also helps, one hopes, calm the mob.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 12:53:31 AM   
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They can go to the Grand Jury with very little and get an indictment.  Getting that indictment allows them to make more discovery demands, because he is already charged.


It also protects them from a false arrest suit.
It also helps, one hopes, calm the mob.


I've never heard of it being used to protect from a false arrest suit (likely because it never happened).

Whether they arrested him that night, the next day, tomorrow or after the Grand Jury, he has NO shot at a false arrest suit.

It's nice to think that people can sue the legal system willy nilly for "false arrest."  Then there is reality.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 1:28:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are only two possible reasons, today, fro the fact that Zimmerman is not in jail:

1. Honest respect for Zs civil rights
2. Fear of the lawsuit resulting from taking them away.



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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 3:18:09 AM   
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There are only two possible reasons, today, fro the fact that Zimmerman is not in jail:

1. Honest respect for Zs civil rights
2. Fear of the lawsuit resulting from taking them away.




There would be no civil rights violation, and no lawsuit.  Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 4:29:37 AM   
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Zimmerman doesn't have to attack first. Martin's reasonable fear of being stalked at night is sufficient grounds for Martin to do anything necessary to ensure his safety.




Wasn't the legal definition of "stalking," nor was he justified in using "anything necessary" because someone was following him.

Really, fargle, I'm sure you know how to find Florida's Criminal Code to protect yourself from arrest for possession should you go there, but really, if you slow down on the weed, you might have a better grasp of what you read.


You know, when you attack ME, that shows you can't refute my argument. AND I NOTICE, for all the bullshit you talk, YOU NEVER BACK IT UP WITH CITATIONS FROM FL CPL!

So, start putting up, or start shutting up.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 4:30:39 AM   
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Martin's reasonable fear of being stalked at night is sufficient grounds for Martin to do anything necessary to ensure his safety.


Yeah. Too bad he didn't have a gun. He could just have shot Zimmerman instead of attacking him and trying to take his gun.

What?? WHAT??? I love feeding trolls.


Why would Zimmerman be so negligent he allowed someone close enough to take his weapon?

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 4:31:58 AM   
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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 4:35:57 AM   
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Gotta wonder...is this just another of Arpig's socks? Real One takes a break, fargle returns, that kind of thing?


I will allow anyone who wonders about this to suck my cock to find out for themselves what the truth of the matter is.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 6:43:29 AM   
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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 6:48:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

There are only two possible reasons, today, fro the fact that Zimmerman is not in jail:

1. Honest respect for Zs civil rights
2. Fear of the lawsuit resulting from taking them away.



There's a third. Daddy is a retired judge and he made some phone calls to the DA's house.
The Detective questioning Zimmerman wanted to charge him that night and the DA called and told him not to.
Why would a DA who has not visited the scene, inspected any evidence, spoken to any witnesses or even seen the suspect call up the station and say "No charges on this one."?


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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 6:50:54 AM   
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Gotta wonder...is this just another of Arpig's socks? Real One takes a break, fargle returns, that kind of thing?

Who, truckin?

Nah, he's a poster that disappears for months then visits back.
Wouldn't be arpig's sock as he was a hard core liberal and truckin is WAY on the conservative side of things.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 7:04:20 AM   
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No, do you?  But that's the point, innit?   Nobody does.

Well, it wasn't your point.
Your point was that the pictures proved Zimmerman was lying.
Now your point is that the lack of pictures proves Zimmerman is lying.
You seem desperate....

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ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 7:08:54 AM   
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The Detective questioning Zimmerman wanted to charge him that night and the DA called and told him not to.
Why would a DA who has not visited the scene, inspected any evidence, spoken to any witnesses or even seen the suspect call up the station and say "No charges on this one."?


I'm unclear as to the exact events.
Are you certain as to who called whom?

Frankly, I think the idea of a retired out of state "Supreme Court Magistrate Judge" squashing manslaughter charges with a single phone call is pretty damned farfetched, but if we can prove the DA called the SPD first... I think that begs an explanation.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 7:10:36 AM   
truckinslave


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I have been many things; but never before have I been accused of being an Arpig sockpuppet.
Excuse me; I need to shower.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 7:37:45 AM   
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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 7:47:57 AM   
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No, do you?  But that's the point, innit?   Nobody does.

Well, it wasn't your point.
Your point was that the pictures proved Zimmerman was lying.
Now your point is that the lack of pictures proves Zimmerman is lying.
You seem desperate....


Those statements are lying horseshit.  Your intentional mischaracterizations of what I have said, only makes your statements even more pathetic.


You seem buffoonate.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 8:58:32 AM   
truckinslave


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And so where is the picture of the black eyes now? Broken nose blood is gonna pool in your sinuses and your eyes will swell and you will be looking thru slits in less than 15 minutes.
If there was a timestamp problem, it would have been talked about.


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Repeatedly banging his head on the sidewalk, and I gotta tell you, yours (especially close shaven no padding if I did it) would look like smashed pumpkin by the second or third time it bounced.

I aint buying a broken nose, I aint buying a head banging.


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A broken nose is black eyes, not just puffiness and banged up, that could be from drinking the night away.


I saw the links, aint buying it, pictures; or it didn't happen.


Me (in response to one of the above posts):

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Do you have pictures of Zimmerman taken, say, more than 24 hours, and less than two weeks after, he defended himself?


mnottertail:

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No, do you? But that's the point, innit? Nobody does.


Me:

Your point was that the pictures proved Zimmerman was lying.
Now your point is that the lack of pictures proves Zimmerman is lying.
You seem desperate....


I'm pretty sure there was some more stuff from you on the thread titled something like: "this proves zimmerman is lying" but it must have been deleted.
Clearly, though, my work here is done.



< Message edited by truckinslave -- 4/2/2012 8:59:36 AM >

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 10:10:06 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		My point is, for the uneducated, the picture that are available, as well as his breathing today, testify to the fact that he did not have his head slammed repeatedly into the sidewalk, nor did he have a broken nose.

Any evidence to the contrary would be in pictures or medical reports.

Since there is no contrary evidence, it doesnt look good for his claims.  (well officer, he stabbed me repeatedly with a machete, but I guess I didnt get the doctor to write that down, and as for your pictures of me, I am a slow bleeder and taking coumidin for it, healed up overnight you'll have to take my word instead of believing your lying eyes).

You are the one who appears desperate.  You are impugning by vermiforming with ad hominem rather than rebutting obvious departures from the truth by him and his lawyer.

If your point is that once again you have been found less than wholly discreditable you have made that.

I do not think I have made the points you have attributed to me in your typically simpletonian avoidance of fact.

However, let me accept the premise, and say that the pictures that are available, damn him as guilty and the lack of pictures that show the damaged alleged by him and his lawyer also damn him as guilty.

There is nothing (no document, no medical examination, no site evidence, no picture,  no nothing) that attests to the veracity of any one or all of his claims.


< Message edited by mnottertail -- 4/2/2012 10:36:24 AM >

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/2/2012 12:11:17 PM   
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The Detective questioning Zimmerman wanted to charge him that night and the DA called and told him not to.
Why would a DA who has not visited the scene, inspected any evidence, spoken to any witnesses or even seen the suspect call up the station and say "No charges on this one."?


I'm unclear as to the exact events.
Are you certain as to who called whom?

Frankly, I think the idea of a retired out of state "Supreme Court Magistrate Judge" squashing manslaughter charges with a single phone call is pretty damned farfetched, but if we can prove the DA called the SPD first... I think that begs an explanation.


The FBI investigation ( or Disney/ABC's ) into the phone records will show who called whom, and then the only thing left to do is subpoena the parties to the call and ask them under oath what they said.

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