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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:02:42 AM   
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Looks like a few gashes to me.



http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-video-shows-injury-back-head-161816389--abc-news-topstories.html

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Again, Arturas correct. Forum players wrong.
This is too easy.

It's a quarter to half dollar size contusion. It's the same one I referred to earlier when someone responded it must be a doctored picture from some English station and then implied that station is known for faking pictures. THEN, better pictures show up on CBS and they also show the same wounds.

It's the same issue. After one rants about Zimmerman not having wounds and that he clearly is guilty and rants so without any facts, then one either must 1) apologize, 2) or hide 3) or pretend the facts that support Zimmerman do no exist or must be due to some conspiracy. The ranters tend to use option three.

Case in point, last night when these now obvious wounds were brought to the attention of a pundit on HLN while she was "examining' the current situation. In response, she freaked and started ranting, then started diverting off the subject of the wounds (now) well shown in the enhanced photos shown by CBS by shouting something about Clinton's remarks that this Florida law is bad (actually, a distortion, he said it needed to be reviewed) as if Clinton is our model of truthfullness and a law expert, and then ranted for another two minutes about justice and rights and such.

Then I switched over to Fox and there was a sane discussion about why the Leftist media is now stuck and cannot accept anything except Zimmerman arrested and then executed for murder since they have ranted collectively for weeks now about how he must be guilty and so cannot accept facts to the contrary, they simply cannot as their miserable reputations and self worth are on the line, not to mention the Most Reverend (lovechild) Jackson and Sharpton who publically took their show on the road and pronounced Zimmerman quilty. It was described on Fox as a mob rule lynching in the making, nothing more, with each of these parties using this death for their agendas.

Now, does anyone wonder why Ziimmerman is not YET arrested with such intense investigation undnerway for several weeks now on a few minutes of activity? I don't. It's obvious. It's because the investigation is long since over, there is no case, and nobody is going to hang Zimmerman just because the most Reverend Al Sharpton and MsNBC thinks it's time to do so. Instead, authorities are marking time until these people get tired of the subject. This is important to avoid racial riots stirred up by the pundits and The Most Reverends.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:09:06 AM   
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Then I switched over to Fox and there was a sane discussion about why the Leftist media is now stuck and cannot accept anything except Zimmerman arrested and then executed for murder since they have ranted collectively for weeks now about how he must be guilty and so cannot accept facts to the contrary


Given that you're the only one talking about anything other than Zimmerman explaining to a Judge why he killed Trayvon Martin, I'm not really sold on the usage of the word 'sane' there.

If Zimmerman has any "facts" in his defense, he can tell them to the Judge as part of his motion-to-dismiss.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:10:31 AM   
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It's because the investigation is long since over, there is no case, and nobody is going to hang Zimmerman just because the most Reverend Al Sharpton and MsNBC thinks it's time to do so


The DoJ will do whatever it has to do in order to conjure up a civil rights arrest.
They might even try harder to fuck Zimmerman than they are trying to ignore and (pardon the expression) whitewash the NBPP.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:10:42 AM   
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Well, why did Zimmerman chase after Trayvon Martin? To detain him for questioning by the Police.

You need legal authority to do that.

What happened when Zimmerman caught up to Martin, asked him to stop, and Trayvon Martin DID NOT OBEY HIS COMMAND?

Well, Zimmerman escalated.


Do you KNOW for a fact that Zimmerman attempted to detain Martin?  NO.

Do you KNOW that Zimmerman even asked him to stop? NO

Try sticking with what is actually KNOWN, not what you presume or imagine or hallucinate happened.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:12:08 AM   
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Given that you're the only one talking about anything other than Zimmerman explaining to a Judge


He most certainly is not.
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Given that you're the only one talking about anything other than Zimmerman explaining to a Judge
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Given that you're the only one talking about anything other than Zimmerman explaining to a Judge


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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:13:17 AM   
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How close to getting beaten to death does this topic look?

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:16:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		The main problem with the picture is that no one knows what the hell the back of Zimmerman's head looked like prior to that night.  Is there a red mark?  Possibly.  A contusion?  No.  A dent? Sure.  His head is probably shaped like that.  His head could also be red from leaning against the back seat of the police car.  Those seats aren't cushioned, they are plastic bench like things and have been for a while.  Makes them easier to clean up after drunks puke in the back of the car or other low lifes spit or piss on them.

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:16:28 AM   
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Well, that's a scenario that makes sense.


Finally. A reasonable statement.
Especially if by "makes sense" you mean: "possible".
It's certainly a possible scenario, and there are many others.
Unless the scenario related by Zimmerman is substantially contradicted by the forensic evidence and witness testimony... there is no case and he walks.
How can you deny the existence of "reasonable doubt" when such a possible scenario exists?

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 8:29:31 AM   
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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 9:50:06 AM   
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Well, why did Zimmerman chase after Trayvon Martin? To detain him for questioning by the Police.

You need legal authority to do that.

What happened when Zimmerman caught up to Martin, asked him to stop, and Trayvon Martin DID NOT OBEY HIS COMMAND?

Well, Zimmerman escalated.


Do you KNOW for a fact that Zimmerman attempted to detain Martin?  NO.

Do you KNOW that Zimmerman even asked him to stop? NO

Try sticking with what is actually KNOWN, not what you presume or imagine or hallucinate happened.


Why would Zimmerman get out of his car to pursue Trayvon Martin?

If Zimmerman was JUST FOLLOWING Martin, so that he could REPORT MARTIN'S LOCATION TO THE POLICE... **WHY DID ZIMMERMAN END THE 911 CALL WHERE HE WOULD HAVE REPORTED MARTIN'S LOCATION TO THE POLICE?**

Who was he planning on telling Martin's location to when he caught up with him? He didn't attempt to make another 9-1-1 call, did he?

See, this story MAKES NO SENSE. And it makes more sense than CRAZY NEGROS SMOKING MARIJUANA.

The story that does makes sense is that Zimmerman caught up with Martin, demanded he stop and wait for the police, Martin tells Zimmerman to go fuck himself, and that makes Zimmerman Very Angry. Since we've already seen that Zimmerman's judgement isn't reliable, why would you think he made the right decisions after fucking up 3 times before choosing to pursue Martin.



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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/3/2012 10:37:10 AM   
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If you listen to the report that goes with the new enhanced video, they also say that the initial police report includes a mention of blood on the back of his jacket and near his nose.


I mentioned that earlier in the thread.

"Zimmerman complied with all of my verbal commands and was secured in handcuffs. Located on the inside of Zimmerman's waist band, I removed a black Kel Tek 9mm PF9 semi auto handgun and holster. While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head."

Verbatim from the police report, viewable here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86948628/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Report


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There is no proof there of any damage, or whether or not the cops did that taking him down.



The report also covers that...Zimmerman cooperated with the police; no "taking him down."

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RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy ... - 4/12/2012 7:28:20 AM   
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