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truckinslave -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 9:31:49 AM)
quote: Regardless, even if they said they didn't have "enough" that night, that can easily change at any time. If the police decided not to charge him that night, the DA could have told them to do so the next day. Even with a DA saying that night not to charge, that DA's boss could have said to do so the next day or whenever. Contrary to popular belief, police really are not knowledgeable when it comes to the details regarding the laws and what will stand and won't. I agree absolutely. Which is why the decision by the Florida DA not to charge carries so much more weight with me than the desire of some of the local PD to charge. And I think that decsion would change immediately were they able to poke holes in Zimmermans account.

truckinslave -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 9:34:28 AM)
quote: It's that they were told to cover it up by the Chief and -- I feel -- they INTENTIONALLY fucked up the cover up. Perhaps you can point me to evidence that someone was ordered to "cover it up". If not, you keep right on feeling; I'll keep right on thinking.

mnottertail -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 9:36:16 AM)
It seems to me at this point (I haven't been following this real closely) that the silence of the lambs routine here indicates that they are gathering every bit of miniscule evidence to overcome the he said-she said (but one is dead) defense. Like I have said, even a D- shyster knows to splatter the media with his two black eyes and bruises if he's got em in this now notorious case. He ain't got 'em, its looking weak for the Zimmster.

Moonhead -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 11:21:07 AM)
He might have them after the weekend. Haven't you seen Dirty Harry?

DomKen -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 11:25:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave I've read that Zimmerman told the police that, during their fight, Trayvon went for his (that is, Zimmerman's) gun after making a verbal death threat. That would obviously obviate any need for physical injuries as a justification for the use of deadly force. Remember that the burden of proof is on the state. Zimmerman does not have to prove his narrative. The police have to disprove it. Nope. Self defence is an affirmative defence. IOW the defendant has to prove it.

truckinslave -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 11:49:43 AM)
quote: they are gathering every bit of miniscule evidence to overcome the he said-she said (but one is dead) defense. Absolutely. As they damned well should, unless this descends into prosecution by petition. Couple other things. Are we still going by the idea that the timestamp is correct, and is barely thirty minutes after the incident? If so, is that time for a minor break to cause the bruising you expect? Wonder how long it takes to analyze the cries for help on the 911 call? If they could find an expert who said: that is not Zimmerman, he'd be in jail immediately imo. (I don't know they will ever be able to say that it is Trayvon; I don't know that they have adequate voice exemplars on T. I assume they do on Z) The idea that it has to go to a grand jury prior to arrest means to me that they have a very weak case and are using the grand jury to cover their asses from both the mob and Zs potential case against them. If they had a slam dunk they'd take it.

Hillwilliam -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 12:42:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave Are we still going by the idea that the timestamp is correct, and is barely thirty minutes after the incident? If so, is that time for a minor break to cause the bruising you expect? 30 minutes generally isnt time for bruising to occur after a broken nose. Truckin is right that it would be several hours to the next day. The only time one of mine ever had severe bruising was when it was accompanied by a cracked orbital bone. (that fucker could KICK).[8\|]

Moonhead -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 12:54:45 PM)
It's a good point. Doesn't explain the absence of any blood, though.

jlf1961 -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 3:30:13 PM)
The two times I had my nose broken, I bled badly and had blood on my shirt and face. IF there was an altercation between the two of them, what did zimmerman do, go home and shower and change?

farglebargle -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (3/31/2012 4:52:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave quote: It's that they were told to cover it up by the Chief and -- I feel -- they INTENTIONALLY fucked up the cover up. Perhaps you can point me to evidence that someone was ordered to "cover it up". If not, you keep right on feeling; I'll keep right on thinking. Why did they make Bill Lee resign?

truckinslave -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 6:49:05 AM)
Mob rule.

mnottertail -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 9:26:06 AM)
And so where is the picture of the black eyes now? Broken nose blood is gonna pool in your sinuses and your eyes will swell and you will be looking thru slits in less than 15 minutes. If there was a timestamp problem, it would have been talked about. Occams razor says time stamp is correct, Not the other way round.

farglebargle -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 9:46:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave Mob rule. Exactly how did the mob make the Sanford Florida board fire Bill Lee?

Kirata -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 10:26:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The two times I had my nose broken, I bled badly and had blood on my shirt and face. IF there was an altercation between the two of them, what did zimmerman do, go home and shower and change? Never having had the pleasure, I'm no expert on broken noses. But a neighbor of Zimmerman's has stepped forward... The neighbor is talking for the first time about what he saw on George Zimmerman's face less than 24-hours after Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. "I saw George. He was banged up... I seen him have a big bandage on his nose and his nose swollen. On the side, where his eyes were at, it was swollen," he said. He points out exactly where on a picture... "Once you get into a fight you don't show bruises that day, it shows the next day," he said... "I think something happened that night where he had to defend himself," the neighbor said. He says that the voice heard screaming on the 911 call is that of George Zimmerman. "I hear his voice every single day, I talk to him every single day," he said. ~My Fox Tampa Bay K.

mnottertail -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 10:35:04 AM)
A broken nose is black eyes, not just puffiness and banged up, that could be from drinking the night away. I saw the links, aint buying it, pictures; or it didn't happen.

Kirata -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 10:37:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail A broken nose is black eyes, not just puffiness and banged up, that could be from drinking the night away. I saw the links, aint buying it, pictures; or it didn't happen. Maybe not. It was his lawyer who said he had a broken nose. I can't find Zimmerman claiming that anywhere. Maybe his lawyer doesn't know any more about broken noses than I do. K.

Owner59 -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 10:37:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The two times I had my nose broken, I bled badly and had blood on my shirt and face. IF there was an altercation between the two of them, what did zimmerman do, go home and shower and change? Never having had the pleasure, I'm no expert on broken noses. But a neighbor of Zimmerman's has stepped forward... The neighbor is talking for the first time about what he saw on George Zimmerman's face less than 24-hours after Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. "I saw George. He was banged up... I seen him have a big bandage on his nose and his nose swollen. On the side, where his eyes were at, it was swollen," he said. He points out exactly where on a picture... "Once you get into a fight you don't show bruises that day, it shows the next day," he said... "I think something happened that night where he had to defend himself," the neighbor said. He says that the voice heard screaming on the 911 call is that of George Zimmerman. "I hear his voice every single day, I talk to him every single day," he said. ~My Fox Tampa Bay K. How do we know George didn`t whack his own head on the basement wall after being released? Manufacturing evidence after one just committed manslaughter is a bit more plausible than the fantasies you`ve been regurgitating.

Kirata -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 10:41:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 How do we know George didn`t whack his own head on the basement wall after being released? How do we know that you didn't fall on your head as a child? [:)] K.

mnottertail -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 10:45:16 AM)
OK, this kid with the strength of an orangutan fells him in one punch. Repeatedly banging his head on the sidewalk, and I gotta tell you, yours (especially close shaven no padding if I did it) would look like smashed pumpkin by the second or third time it bounced. I aint buying a broken nose, I aint buying a head banging. What I will buy is the guy kept going after him, the kid swung on him, surprised him,and there was a struggle and the clown shot him, then and there. Given what is out there and all the razzmatazz left aside. Any forensics on the bullet entry and exit?

Kirata -> RE: How close to getting beaten to death does this guy look? (4/1/2012 10:50:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Any forensics on the bullet entry and exit? As far as I know, nothing has been released from the medical examiner's report about that or the gunshot residue pattern on the hoodie. K.

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