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Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/30/2012 7:29:13 PM   
katielalah


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I am seeking further training from a local Dominant who does NOT seek a further relationship. I simply want to learn to service, serve and obey a strong Dominant Master who is creative and intelligent and sane!

Is this even possible?
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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/30/2012 7:40:24 PM   
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Maybe.

In my opinion, I would want to be trained in how my master would like me to do things. If it was for things like cooking, etc, that i can go to a class for, that's cool, but how to talk to Master, how to serve him his food? I would want that from HIM now another who may like it differently

Good luck :)

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/30/2012 7:52:55 PM   
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It might not be possible...after all, what's in it for him? He trains you and you're out the door? Doesn't seem like there is much motivation for him to want to do it.

Why do you think you need training? In other words, a Dominant man that you wanted a relationship with should be able to let you know how he wants things done, why would you need to service, serve, and obey in general?

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/30/2012 8:33:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: katielalah

I am seeking further training from a local Dominant who does NOT seek a further relationship. I simply want to learn to service, serve and obey a strong Dominant Master who is creative and intelligent and sane!

Is this even possible?


Service of what?  Food service?  Go wait tables at a fine restaurant, they'll teach you.  Service him sexually?  Well, while giving a blow job ain't rocket science, individuals have different preferences, so whatever some "trainer" teaches you could mean nothing.  Obey?  I say, you do, not really much more to it than that.

I think what you really should be asking for is what you really want...

You want "real life" experience so you can better write about it, therefore, hopefully leading more people to your erotic website.

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/30/2012 10:08:04 PM   
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Darn near anything is possible.

I recently started doing this again and it's working out to be a great situation.  I'm mentoring her as a Domme and I'm helping to train him in his submission.  She's more of a laid back type and wanted to learn how to be a bit firmer with him, add some formal parts to his service, and become more acquainted with higher protocols.  Fortunately, he happens to be one of those submissives who really enjoys the kind of mindset that formality brings to the situation.  I'm also teaching her various topping skills along the way so that she can expand her horizons a bit and have more choices of play available to her.  Above all, I reinforce that it is their dynamic and I'm just here to give them a hand with it.

So, yes, there really are folks out there who are more than happy to help people out when they want to learn.  It's fun for all of us and it's positive for everyone involved.


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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/30/2012 10:08:11 PM   
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Thank you LafayetteLady, I needed that laugh!

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/31/2012 3:07:06 AM   
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Hey there,

It is possible, but it's relatively rare. As others have said there's the "what does he get out of it" question to answer.

BTW... I enjoyed your writing and have bookmarked your blog.

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/31/2012 8:54:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


Service of what?  Food service?  Go wait tables at a fine restaurant, they'll teach you.  Service him sexually?  Well, while giving a blow job ain't rocket science, individuals have different preferences, so whatever some "trainer" teaches you could mean nothing.  Obey?  I say, you do, not really much more to it than that.


^^^ This!


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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 3/31/2012 12:36:11 PM   
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I find that creative and intelligent and sane men like relationships, but there should be no shortage of Desktop Doms seeking to "train" you for NSA sex.

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/1/2012 10:18:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: katielalah
Is this even possible?

I'm going to guess probably not. I think the concept of "training" kind of flies in the face of "strong and sane dominant." I think you can probably do so with a creative & intelligent dom though. The whole request is very fantastical... it'd certainly be too fantasy based for me to want to touch. Here's what "obedience training" looks like in my world.

Me: Do you want to obey me?
Her: Yes.
Me: Good, start now. If you decide to stop again, please hand me the collar back.

presto. training complete. the service & serve parts all flow naturally from there.


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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/1/2012 4:58:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml
It is possible, but it's relatively rare. As others have said there's the "what does he get out of it" question to answer.


Really? I would expect quite a few polly people to be into that sort of thing. I mean seriously, who doesn't like being serviced?

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/1/2012 6:33:11 PM   
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I enjoy training subs and the reason why is (and NO ONE MENTIONED IT) is that people come to the reality that they are sub (or Domme) and yes saying I will be in your service does not give someone basic training. It only becomes their reality that they are WILLING to. Training is fun and watching people grow in their traits is also fun. There has to be a reason he chooses to no longer deal with you,is there more to the story?

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/1/2012 7:24:10 PM   
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There are about 2454596409 guys out there looking to "train" (read: fuck & play with) a submissive woman no-strings-attached. If that's all you want, they're a dime a dozen. You could probably go to any munch and find one.

If you're looking to learn how to do service activities, though, you might want to try checking out a local vocational school or something for classes in cooking, massage, home repair, etc instead of looking for a dom to teach you that stuff.

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/1/2012 7:55:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: graceadieu

There are about 2454596409 guys out there looking to "train" (read: fuck & play with) a submissive woman no-strings-attached. If that's all you want, they're a dime a dozen. You could probably go to any munch and find one.

If you're looking to learn how to do service activities, though, you might want to try checking out a local vocational school or something for classes in cooking, massage, home repair, etc instead of looking for a dom to teach you that stuff.

^^^^
THIS.
Good grief I havent met many men who would say no to a no strings attached "relationship" where you are willing to service him at his beckoning. But as for the other stuff, cooking cleaning, massage, ect.. Guys by the truckloads would be willing to have you practice on them as long as they didn't have to return the favor.
You can find those guys anywhere.

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/2/2012 11:03:58 AM   
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Ofcourse it's possible, just look for a pimp.

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/2/2012 11:29:34 AM   
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I think it would be a good idea if these people had reccomendations rather then just guessing they could train you.

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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/2/2012 11:55:42 AM   
tng


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Simples.

Do as you're told.

Got it? Good, now you're a certified Maggsub. Put it in your profile to let everybody know you've been trained by the best.


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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/3/2012 6:29:23 PM   
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ok, well everyone missed my point. PERHAPS I should have been more specific. I mean "sexually service"/learn the ways of sexual submission, not cooking and cleaning and domestic tasks. I ask because I don't want to be "owned" immediately by a Dominant to experience/gain skills in the art of submission. I would rather have a "relationship" if you will that is like a trainer/trainee.

Another thing that seems to not be mentioned here is the attitude that a Dom is the ONLY ONE benefiting or should BE ENJOYING a relationship/training session with a sub? A sub is not entitled to any enjoyment? I believe the best relationships work if both parties are invested, not just a mindless sub who obeys without any inner desire or need? I guess if that's the requirement to be a sub, then I am not that.

Just because I have a story in my profile and a blog, why is the assumption made that I am trying to direct traffic there? If I wanted just that, I would have said, "hey COME READ MY BLOG!!!!!" I hate when people make ignorant assumptions with no knowledge. I write because I like writing, period.


Princess Donna, you said what I am seeking best:
I enjoy training subs and the reason why is (and NO ONE MENTIONED IT) is that people come to the reality that they are sub (or Domme) and yes saying I will be in your service does not give someone basic training. It only becomes their reality that they are WILLING to. Training is fun and watching people grow in their traits is also fun.
And its not that I don't want further contact, I just don't want IMMEDIATE "I must own you and all your thoughts have to go through me", that's not what I "seek" at this time in my life.

I seek exploration, learning, teaching, mutually benefiting experiences.


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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/3/2012 6:35:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: angmar

I think it would be a good idea if these people had reccomendations rather then just guessing they could train you.


I'm not quite sure what you mean by your comment.  Who guessed?

However, if you'd like Me to take a stab at it, My guess would be yes, at least in certain areas.  I'm fairly competent in a few things such as training folks in leather protocols, the care of leather toys and apparel, a decent amount in the bottom/sub's education for various types of play, high protocol dinner service, involvement in the kink and leather communities, and some other areas of knowledge.

Does that address your comment at all?


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RE: Dominants who "train" submissives... - 4/3/2012 6:38:16 PM   
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LadyPact,
Can I ask you a direct question then? What do you "get out" of training others if you aren't "owning" them in the end. That seems to be the only scenario people see as at all rewarding, which I disagree.

thanks.

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