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Irrational Fear - 3/31/2012 7:43:57 PM   
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Can anyone give me some advise on what I can do to ease my fears?

I have started with a new Dom/Master and he is great. I am comfortable around him, we get along like the best of friends and our progressing physical relationship has great chemistry as well. The thing is I am very self conscious about my upper legs as I have some scarring from sports and such. Smooth skin but scar discoloration. My Dom/Master has made it clear he finds me very attractive to him, but as we further our physical relationship I am worried that I may in some way fall short of his expectations and dissapoint him in the physical appearance aspect. But there is also a part of me that knows it will not change how he feels at all.

Does anyone have some advise on how I can help myself be rid of my irrational fears?

-Thank you

~A
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RE: Irrational Fear - 3/31/2012 8:04:46 PM   
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1) You need to find a way to love yourself.

2) Accept him at face value when he tells you how he feels.

Master thinks I'm beautiful. I don't think I am. I have learned that his view is his view and it's perfectly valid.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 3/31/2012 8:09:36 PM   
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I think a lot of people, mostly women I think, feel this way. I know I'm self conscious of parts of me. Master is aware of that and most times he feels I'm just being silly and tells me he likes those parts of me. I just usually smile and roll my eyes and think he's the silly one lol. I just continue to work on those parts of myself that I don't like but with the realization that he is Master and if he likes those parts of me then I accept them...but still continue to fix them if he lets me to make myself happier which in the end makes him happier too because he likes to have a happy slave.




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RE: Irrational Fear - 3/31/2012 8:24:08 PM   
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Let's see.  Your Dom has told you that he finds you attractive.  You KNOW he is lying and want to know how we can help. 

First, do you think your Dom is lying?
If he is lying, why is he doing so?
He he finds you repugnant, why is he with you?

It comes down to this.  Either you trust that he is not lying to you, or you do not trust him.  It's all up to you. 

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RE: Irrational Fear - 3/31/2012 9:24:38 PM   
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Has he seen the scars yet? If not, then have you told him about them?
Because if you've gotten a lot of people looking at the scars and making you feel self conscious by their reactions, then I can understand why you're so nervous.

The way to find out what his reaction will be is to talk to him about them. If he doesn't know about them then he may well be taken aback which you will interpret as disgust instead of shock. If he does know about them, then it won't come as a surprise and you won't have to focus on them except to discuss if the scars are more sensitive then unscarred skin to pain or sensation. If you already know the answer to that, then you need to tell him.

But nobody is going to act like you don't have them when this comes as a surprise.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 3:40:17 AM   
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Leap of faith. You shed the clothing, and start thinking about him, not yourself. It's one of the easiest ways to overcome your self conciousness.

Also, love thineself. Make a habit of being naked and in view for him, but also for yourself. Get use to looking at yourself naked in the mirror, pose, make yourself feel sexy just as you are. All human bodies are lumpy and bumpy and have funny bits. I myself have a lot of scars, they cover my back, my shoulders, I even have a couple on my chin and chest. I am so accustomed to seeing them and feeling them, I consider them part of me, and never something I would change.

One lover i had called them the 'brail of my body' and so I think of them quite endearingly.

You need to become fond of yourself too, and that can take time when media or peer pressure in the past has lead us to believe we are unattractive.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 6:18:48 AM   
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We all have scars.
We all have places on our bodies that we think may be less than attractive.
Many of us, may in moments, think these could be turn-offs to our partners.
Usually we are wrong.

Your master knows that you are more than your scars; that your scars are just a small part of who you are.

Do you think it could be possible that your master would rather have your discolorations than legs that have never exerted themselves in sports.
Do you think it is possible that he loves the part of who you are that played sports?

Think of those marks not as blemishes but as experiences.

They are a part of who you are but they are not you.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 7:22:03 AM   
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Grow up.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 8:29:31 AM   
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I thank everyone for their suggestions and I will definitely be trying some and doing some self thinking as well. I am still open to any opinions or suggestions anyone has as I would love to hear what you all think on the subject.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 9:35:11 AM   
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This is more than likely going to sound very cliche but I am going to say it anyway. Before anyone else can love you, you first have to learn to love yourself scars and all. As someone that carries the kinds of scars that most people only see in horror movies I can understand why you feel it is hard to get over them. Hard to allow others to see them. But I can also tell you that even if you have to fight you way through a lot of people that will be turned off by your scars that the ones you find who aren't are more than worth the cost of the others. I have at different times in my life been asked if I played tag with Freddy Krueger. If the cat I said I have at home is actually a tiger. I even had someone ask me if someone dipped me in a blender because below the belly button I have some scars that would make the average person at the very least cringe if they saw them. Your fear isn't irrational. It is actually very rational. Some people are bothered by scars others embrace them. The only thing you can do is accept that they are part of who you are and that a person worth having you in their life will not only accepet them but love them as a part of who you are.

*oh* and a bit of an add on. I would suggest that if you can do it that you start viewing your scars not as a hindrance but as a tool. They can allow you to better know what kind of a person you are dealing with when others see them.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 9:40:23 AM   
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I have some pretty major (albeit faded) surgical scarring. It does not bother me one bit, and never has. If anyone freaked out at it or told me it was unattractive, the problem would be theirs, not mine.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 10:09:36 AM   
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OK, I offer this up in the spirit of helpfulness, please take it that way.

You might consider the fact that such behavior, over time, will drive away a sensible and balanced partner. For myself, I want a partner who is grounded in reality... this reality... the really real one we all live in for the most part. In that reality, I either find my partner attractive or I do not. That is not really up to her and if she starts making up facts which make up drama then she's going to be gone.

Yes, I know. You two love each other and all that. But I'm being serious in a doomsday sort of way. I often times find good advice by asking myself, "what is the ultimate destination of this path that I am now taking just one step on. Do I want to go there?"

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You get rid of your irrational fears by realizing that they are irrational, make believe fantasy and you're an adult. Then you take a deep breath and you face them... over and over if necessary... until you get back in touch with reality. I'm irrationally afraid of sharks... a child of the Jaws generation. Yes, I go swimming in the ocean. Yes, I've gone night snorkelling. Yes, those things can terrify me at least initially. So what? It's a ridiculous fear.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 12:55:51 PM   
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We have a society that is obsessed with super-beauty and youth. How many products are out there that are supposed to help scars 'fade'. I have scars. I have pronounced surgical scars on my shoulder. I don't see them as ugly - I see them as a reminder that things could have been a lot worse. I recovered, and the scars became a part of who I am. Your Master may actually find your scars to be beautiful because they are uniquely a part of you.

Added:

Part of what this is about is learning to let go of small obsessions just like this. Consider this as an opportunity to grow in your submission to him - and express that to him. As a sub - you let go of 'self'. The scars are no longer 'yours' to worry about anymore - they are 'his' to cherish, because they are a part of what identify you as his.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 1:14:08 PM   
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you need to swing by fetlife, take a look at some of the women on there and im not being rude at all, i think theyre brilliant - theyve thrown away the whole bruhaha about perfect body image and are loving themselves and a great number of them are in relationships barring all.

most of us have areas of our body we'd love to not have.  i have stretch marks on my tummy from having my son.  its life.

i think if youre that bothered about it you should tell him - ill bet you anything he'll probably ask to see them and give each one a big kiss.  least he should IMO

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 3:14:00 PM   
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Scars, like greying hairs, are hopefully an indicator of the character, growth and story of our lives. With any kind of luck, we acquire, learn from, and gain wisdom and insights from all we have weathered, in all realms.

None of us gets out of here unblemished. It is a mistake to think we will do so. Thanks to modern media, many have lost this valuable knowing. Which of us wants the pages of our book to be blank and boring, or like that of ever other human? Not I.

Happines, joy, and inner freedom, in my book, comes from realizing there is no such thing as flawless perfection, inside or out. It is only when one comes to terms with the fact that accepting and loving ourselves as we are, such imperfect beings, will we find peace. The closest we can come to being perfectly comfortable, and forgiving of ourselves and others, is when we accept our imperfections. We are perfectly imperfect.

Whatever we focus on expands. Instead of focusing on the minutia of small things we think we dislike, let us redirect our attention to the rest of our (and others) magnificent selves. Honor that which distinguishes you from others. Stand back and look at the larger picture.


Edited to add: Artistic, in peeking at your profile I see you are early in years. It is not unusual for the young to obsesses about such things, and it is exactly that...obsessing. I remember a time when a scar on my face (in my twenties) caused me great despair, as back then I sadly thought it was my face that would either make someone like me, or dislike me. Thay was back before I'd been through too many horse wrecks. Now I know better.

Many on here have often seen me write, "Pretty is as pretty does," and after learning this the hard way, I firmly believe it. Some of the prettiest faces have done the most heinous things to others. Some of the mosts physically plain or unattactive people have the best heart and character.

Who do I want in my life or by my side? People who love, value, and respect themselves others. I shall steal from one of my earlier posts on another thread, to share that which I value in others, and this speaks for any gender:

"Quiet confidence, honesty, transparency, forthright, integrity, honor, humility, modesty, compassionate, passionate, protective, patient, humorous, sexual/sensual, resourceful, respectful, open/generous mind and heart, flexibiity, happy, playful, loving, intelligent (academic or street smarts), mature, assertive, sincere, tenacious, self-assured, hard-working, responsible, principled, accountable, reliable, sensitive, faithful, polite, respectful, well-mannered, courteous, courageous, considerate, ambitious, spiritual (whatever that means to them), spontaneous, forgiving, mentally/emotional present, gentle, strong, willing to take correction and direction when appropriate, can exercise self-restraint, loves to touch and be touched, and with good "backbone!"

Did you notice anything obviously missing from this description Artistic? Did I anywhere list any physical attribute at all? No, of course I did not. If you are any or all of these, you could be my friend. I do not care whether or not you have all your limbs, are gorgeous or plain, are rich or poor, etc. All those are "outside" physical stuff, which may come or go in your life. The currency in which I wish to trade is that of one's "inner gold."

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 3:44:24 PM   
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Absolutely love what Duskypearls had to say and agree!

Beyond that, a master loves and cherishes his sub and I'm sure he finds you beautiful. You must find the beauty in yourself, your scars and in his love for you. I too, have areas of my body that are not what I wish they were....yet, no man has ever looked upon them with the same critical eye that I do. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy in the self esteem department.

I wish you only the best.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 4:23:02 PM   
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I have a ten inch scar running down the front of both knees from knee replacement surgery complete with cross hatches from the metal staples used to close the wounds.  I love my legs and wear short skirts and shorts in the summer with sexy little sandals. 

My point is:  you've got to accept and love yourself.  Your Master thinks you're attractive, believe him!


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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/1/2012 4:50:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ArtisticAlex

Can anyone give me some advise on what I can do to ease my fears?

I have started with a new Dom/Master and he is great. I am comfortable around him, we get along like the best of friends and our progressing physical relationship has great chemistry as well. The thing is I am very self conscious about my upper legs as I have some scarring from sports and such. Smooth skin but scar discoloration. My Dom/Master has made it clear he finds me very attractive to him, but as we further our physical relationship I am worried that I may in some way fall short of his expectations and dissapoint him in the physical appearance aspect. But there is also a part of me that knows it will not change how he feels at all.

Does anyone have some advise on how I can help myself be rid of my irrational fears?

-Thank you

~A


This is not a BDSM thing at all.  It is very much a woman thing.  Pick up any fashion magazine and you will read tons of articles about a woman worrying that her man is analyzing her body once they get naked.  But basically, once that dick is hard, they aren't thinking if your legs are perfect, if you have the flattest tummy or the perkiest breasts.  They are too busy relishing the fact that they are getting to touch your legs, tummy and breasts (among other things).

By all means tell him how you feel and that you are self conscious of it.  But take comfort in the fact that you aren't any different than most women.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/2/2012 2:12:07 PM   
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I understand where the OP is coming from. My late master kept me naked in the house and around his friends. If I was twenty years old again I might have been comfortable with it - BUT - I was in my late 40s , over 200 pounds and "a bit " insecure about my body.

The first party we had that i had to hostess naked was pretty horrendous, but no-one ogled me, no-one commented, so i did fine. After five years , i had another sub tell me that i was a role model and that she really admired me - and for a moment i didn't understand what she was talking about - but it was the fact that i was so comfortable in my not perfect skin, in front of many people. But i wasn't naked - i was clothed in his love and regard (wow, did i really just write that? Pretty sickening! :) )

The way i look at it is if he loves to look at you, flaws and all, then you need to smile and say thank you. I've never seen a perfect person, and don't think i ever will, but that doesn't mean that i can't have fun, enjoy my body and do what i want.

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RE: Irrational Fear - 4/5/2012 5:12:05 PM   
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I thank you all for your thoughtful and kind advice. I have taken some suggestions and am working on being more comfortable in my own skin but have also taken the advice to speak with my Master about it. It was difficult at first but after some discussion, and reassurances from him, we have agreed it is something we can work on together and that it is something that he would never make judgement on.

Thank you all very much

~A

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