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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Why are the teabaggers so desperate and hysterical?

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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If you are in the service of providing healthcare, and you cannot do that and make a profit, then get get the fuck out of that business, you're no good at it.

Are we talking about insurance companies or healthcare providers? I can no longer tell. If you are talking about insurance companies then they do not provide healthcare, they pay some of the bills to prevent you from going bankrupt if you get real sick. If you are talking about healthcare providers, they are being squeezed by Goverment Medicare and Medicaid payments lower than the cost of providing healthcare, only to take money from Medicare and Medicaid and give it to Obamacare to help make that appear sustainable. That should stop now and reverse next year when Obama is fired.

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Medicare is "going broke," is it mismanaged? I would say no, their administrative costs are 2%. However, they are paying the lion's share of health care costs in this nation with a 1.45% tax on earnings and a matching tax on employers.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

No the ones who are spouting unconstitutional, unconstitutional, proceeding to lecture as facts  that which is  in the constitution, and actually in direct contravention to the constitution, and so on.

Those hysterically desperate teabaggers and neo-cons.  

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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Medicare is "going broke," is it mismanaged? I would say no, their administrative costs are 2%. However, they are paying the lion's share of health care costs in this nation with a 1.45% tax on earnings and a matching tax on employers.

No. They are paying health care costs at less than cost driving Doctors out of the Medicare program. This change caused by Obama. He is taking money from Medicare by reducing payment rates and moving that money to fund Obamacare, starting this January. What, are we surprised?

So when you say Medicare is paying the lion's share of health care costs you would be right, but only kinda, kinda good enough for an MSNBC talking point but if you look closer, just a little bit, you find they are paying less than cost and driving healthcare providers out of Medicare and leaving patients with no healthcare and closed doctors offices.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

No the ones who are spouting unconstitutional, unconstitutional, proceeding to lecture as facts  that which is  in the constitution, and actually in direct contravention to the constitution, and so on.

Those hysterically desperate teabaggers and neo-cons.  

Interesting opinion. I don't feel desperate. Should I be? We won.

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When insurance has the ability to deny your claim for healthcare that they consider you dont need, despite what a HCP thinks.it renders your point below that of hilarity and barely above ignorance.

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your record of being correct is abysmal..you should be more careful with your "claims" of fact when it is all posturing and wishful thinking.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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Medicare is "going broke," is it mismanaged? I would say no, their administrative costs are 2%. However, they are paying the lion's share of health care costs in this nation with a 1.45% tax on earnings and a matching tax on employers.

No. They are paying health care costs at less than cost driving Doctors out of the Medicare program. This change caused by Obama. He is taking money from Medicare by reducing payment rates and moving that money to fund Obamacare, starting this January. What, are we surprised?

So when you say Medicare is paying the lion's share of health care costs you would be right, but only kinda, kinda good enough for an MSNBC talking point but if you look closer, just a little bit, you find they are paying less than cost and driving healthcare providers out of Medicare and leaving patients with no healthcare and closed doctors offices.

I have yet to find any doctor not eager to accept Medicare and as someone in the midst of a chronic serious illness I see a lot of doctors.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

in this case, the statement and response would be:

You:  Am I the only one?
Us: You are absolutely so alone in the world.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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your record of being correct is abysmal..you should be more careful with your "claims" of fact when it is all posturing and wishful thinking.

I'm very confident my facts are correct. Very much so. I'm sorry you don't like my posts. I suppose there are "many" leftist that are uncomfortable with facts and reality.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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When insurance has the ability to deny your claim for healthcare that they consider you dont need, despite what a HCP thinks.it renders your point below that of hilarity and barely above ignorance.

That does not happen with my insurance. I need not get any approval for treatment. I have Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO and they do not every deny a claim for services and treatments my doctor ordered. Does not happen. Never does it happen. However, that does happen in Obamacare.

What insurance company denied your claim, a claim for services properly ordered by a HCP and properly authorized beforehand? You see, that is the way it works if you have an HMO style plan, unlke mine, but still it would not be denied after the fact unless you failed to get the treatment approved to begin with, like an Obamcare claim would require.

So. I am wondering how this happened to you when it does not happen normally.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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your record of being correct is abysmal..you should be more careful with your "claims" of fact when it is all posturing and wishful thinking.

I'm very confident my facts are correct. Very much so. I'm sorry you don't like my posts. I suppose there are "many" leftist that are uncomfortable with facts and reality.

Where is the fact that obama will loose, where is your fact of the Mandate being tossed out..its not fact, its supposition, guesswork and wishful thinking.
Your posts dont upset me, nice try tho, but I do love to slap the stupidity of them.
You can be confident all you like but dont expect thinking people to be so confident or even consider your certainties anything but opinion.
You are entitled to your opinion. But expect to be challenged. You arent entitled to your own facts when they are fairy tails and hope

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

first one, nobody gives a rats ass about a right wing blog op ed.
second:


Correction: April 6, 2009
An article in the special Retirement section on Thursday about problems consumers have finding doctors who accept Medicare misstated the results of a survey published in 2008 by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission, an independent federal panel that advises Congress. The panel found that 29 percent of beneficiaries who were looking for a new primary care physician had problems finding one who accepted Medicare; the panel did not find that 29 percent of all beneficiaries had problems finding a primary care doctor or a specialist who accepted Medicare.

AND>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the headline did not match the article, and no mention or fact made of Obamacare in the article, no cause and effect.

So, unless you have more than yellow journalism or opinionated and untutored asswipe from slobbering ideologues......per usual, you really got nothing.

http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/how-medicare-paperwork-abuses

Here is a rightwing neo-con site that should provide you some background, and possibly some facts, which you do not seem to have at your disposal ever.

Please note the date, this is not a new phenomenon that is caused by ACA.

But thanks for porviding us the slapstick, and usual epic fail. 

And nothing constitutional, again.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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your record of being correct is abysmal..you should be more careful with your "claims" of fact when it is all posturing and wishful thinking.

I'm very confident my facts are correct. Very much so. I'm sorry you don't like my posts. I suppose there are "many" leftist that are uncomfortable with facts and reality.

Where is the fact that obama will loose, where is your fact of the Mandate being tossed out..its not fact, its supposition, guesswork and wishful thinking.
Your posts dont upset me, nice try tho, but I do love to slap the stupidity of them.
You can be confident all you like but dont expect thinking people to be so confident or even consider your certainties anything but opinion.
You are entitled to your opinion. But expect to be challenged. You arent entitled to your own facts when they are fairy tails and hope

Nice try. I can say Obamacare is un-consitutional without your permission. I can say Obama will lose without your blessing. I can factually describe how insurance actually works now without your kind regard and also question your unlikely scenario with denied claims since it is just that, unknown in the experience of those who have health insurance. Are claims denied? You bet. For bad reasons? I suppose there are some bad insurance companies out there. Try and get a good one next time, Ok? Good.