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Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new slave? - 4/4/2012 10:00:00 PM   
DaKid8


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Hey everyone. Well I am pretty new to being a Master and I just got my first slave about two months ago. I have started to get her into pain, abuse and humiliation. Does anyone have any suggestions on things I should do? Any tips?
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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/4/2012 10:12:15 PM   
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Yes. Do a google search for 'submissive checklist', and have her fill one out for you to review. It can be very eye-opening. Actually, it would be good for you to fill one out for her, as well (from the dominant perspective.) Better late than never. Get connected with your local community and go their functions. Real-life mentoring is best for this. Also, being very new, I and many others would consider you a dominant, not a master. There's no shame in that. Learn what seasoned Masters have to teach and be willing to learn.

PS: Welcome to the boards.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/4/2012 11:45:18 PM   
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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 1:45:18 AM   
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Again I wonder why inexperienced Doms in their first relationship feel the need to punish or abuse someone.  Shouldn't a Dom be able to inspire a sub? 

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 3:03:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DaKid8

Hey everyone. Well I am pretty new to being a Master and I just got my first slave about two months ago. I have started to get her into pain, abuse and humiliation. Does anyone have any suggestions on things I should do? Any tips?


Whoa, pain, abuse AND humiliation...! Surely there's nothing left to accomplish with this latest video game.

Yanno, kiddies playing with adult dynamics is cute when it's your 5yo daughter wearing mum's high heels. But a teenage "master" all focused on abusing and humiliating someone is more dangerous than said 5yo playing with matches and paint thinners...!

So my tip would be to spend a decade or so growing up and learning about life's challenges and responsibilities without ending up some loathesome addict and/or degenerate criminal type. Do that and you will have mastered something.

Now off you go; this place is for grownups - not teenage adrenalin junkies with the attention span of an earthworm!

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 5:44:03 AM   
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For pain I would suggest attending seminars and demonstrations on the things that interest you... Abuse? wtf.. any guy that tried to abuse me would find one of my 5" heels so far up his arse that he'd be crapping out of his mouth for the rest of his life... Humiliation, can be fun and hot, but is a double edge sword if you push a bad trigger one too many times. Then you are left with a screwed up mess of a person.. So the moral of this story is, Learn to play with your toys without breaking them...

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 6:07:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DaKid8

Hey everyone. Well I am pretty new to being a Master and I just got my first slave
about two months ago. I have started to get her into pain, abuse and humiliation.
Does anyone have any suggestions on things I should do? Any tips?


Show her this post.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 7:33:32 AM   
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So, first you asked us how to punish her and now you're asking how to abuse and humiliate her. Perhaps, you need to step back and get your self a mentor before you get into having a "slave".

And by the way, you're dead new, asking strangers on the internet how to run your relationship and yet you've decided to label yourself a "Master".

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 7:51:21 AM   
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Well I don't presume to know either of you, so I won't judge, humiliation and pain play can be a good way to get someone to shed their inhibitions, both top and bottom - kind of an "all in" effect for the bottom, i.e., there's no sense holding back, if you're being called a slut, might as well act like one, and for the top it can create a certain emotional distance that keep you from getting too excited and able to better exercise self control - men have inhibitions too - I've seen guys completely freak out when a girl starts acting slutty, it can be very threatening to some men, and there's a lot of social reinforcement of the idea that little girls are made of sugar and spice, etc., that creates delusional expectations in both genders, when in fact the evidence suggest women are at least as libidinous as men.

Anyway, the point of all that it, you really just need to think about what your ultimate goals are here, she trusts you to lead her to the place you want her to be, so think about where exactly that place is.

Specifically, w/respect to verbal humiliation, the most neutral approach is to use e-prime, that is avoidance of all forms of the verb, "to be": that is, instead of saying, "you're a slut", you might say, "you're acting like a slut", "if you're going to act like a slut I'll treat you like one" etc.

On the one hand, this shifts the focus form being to doing, i.e., acting out as opposed to identification, and might make it easier to pull back during the periods when you aren't engaged in play, but socializing.

And that, finally, is the most important thing, you need to communicate with her, get her feedback and thoughts, it's all well and good to as k strangers in an internet forum for ideas to take things to another level, but none of us know you, or her, and some of the stuff I've just said is like basics, I do have some ideas, it sounds like you're both comfortable with the idea, but I think overall, the main thing is to stay focused n making it a mutually agreeable experience, and to grow in the relationship.

I know that sounds kinda touchy-feely, but humiliation can be very intimate, and can create a greater degree of interdependence.

Overall, humiliation bottoms often have very strong self confidence, I've even seen chicks use self-humiliation to completely top a guy from the bottom.

Of course the other half the time, they're fishing for compliments.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 8:12:09 AM   
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Anyway, it can be powerful stuff, but there is a mental aspect to all this that goes way beyond whatever physical acts are being performed, there are a lot of social controls w/respect to physical acts, guilt, objectification and humiliation on a societal level that can really mess peoples heads up, and in many senses, humiliation and pain play is sort of counter to that.

Think Carrie, which was a fictionalized story about real abuse and humiliation - a study in pathology take to abstract levels, but it affects all of us to some degree, and is taken to pathological levels in some cases, I've know, and have known people like that - the result can be crippling in terms identity, sexual or otherwise, rendering people utterly incapable of enjoying their sexuality, crippled with guilt and shame - humiliation/objectification play, by contrast, is more about overcoming inhibitions than instilling them, and the ultimate goal is presumably satiation/satisfaction, not a nervous breakdown.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 8:22:58 AM   
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So, in that sense, I usually think it best to balance it all out with a little positive reinforcement, and that ultimately is what humiliation bottoms crave, I believe, i.e., "you're a slut, and I love that about you", i.e., a negative becomes a positive, and here, the "negative" itself is really just a a healthy expression of libido.

Ideally, it's intimate rather than ostracizing, inclusion rather than exclusion, and when it comes to people, nothing really is more stressful than exclusion, people literally get suicidal over that.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 8:32:14 AM   
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quote:

Hey everyone. Well I am pretty new to being a Master and I just got my first slave about two months ago. I have started to get her into pain, abuse and humiliation. Does anyone have any suggestions on things I should do? Any tips?


I suggest you do nothing until you have read SM 101: A Realistic Introduction

See also this booklist: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm

Don't call yourself a Master until you have mastered something. Stick with Dominant or Top for now.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 10:46:17 AM   
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Ok. I will stick with Dom or Top.

Thank you for the few that gave some helpful tips and advice. The rest can f#@k off.

I started with very light humiliation, pain and such to see how it went. She was the one that bascially said she loves being abused, humiliated, hurt and she really wants to try more extreme things and find her limits. I was just asking for ideas, tips and stuff.

Anyone else that has any ideas, tips or whatever for a new Dom I will be happy to listen.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 11:23:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

So, first you asked us how to punish her and now you're asking how to abuse and humiliate her. Perhaps, you need to step back and get your self a mentor before you get into having a "slave".

And by the way, you're dead new, asking strangers on the internet how to run your relationship and yet you've decided to label yourself a "Master".



^^This was the first thing that came to My mind.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 1:23:54 PM   
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Just because you find humiliation a turn on does not mean she will. In fact, the odds are she won't. And that it can leave her pretty messed up. Because teens are insecure by nature so pressing on those highly insecure spots is very likely to be not fun at all. It may well garner you a reputation as an abusive partner though. Sure you want that?

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 1:51:06 PM   
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The BDSM checklist thing is a GREAT idea. Anytime in the futer you start with a new sub, consider starting with that. Be aware that subs, by their nature, like to please. So look for signs that she is not enjoying something she says she is: neediness, clinginess, ect, in the case of humilation play. Try reading some of the recommended books. They are great. We aren't just recommending them, we're most of us read several of them. Join a munch, and get to know some people. My local munch has a lending library. If you want to keep her as happy playing with you as she is now, you are going to have to learn to do good after care. And call her the next day, if you don't live together, to touch base in a follow up. Definatly join a munch. this will, among other things, get you invited to parties, and those are lots of fun. And see if there is a TNG in your area. They might seem a little less scary than us old long in the tooth kind.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 3:03:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaKid8

Thank you for the few that gave some helpful tips and advice. The rest can f#@k off.


Oh yeah, all grown up and ready to make life decisions for two. pfft, who knew...!?!

Unlike others, I'm not prepared to teach kiddies how to play with fire, especially when it's someone else likely to bear the consequences of your bad ass bravado. <shrugs>

Focus.


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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 3:06:57 PM   
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Definatly join a munch. this will, among other things, get you invited to parties, and those are lots of fun. And see if there is a TNG in your area. They might seem a little less scary than us old long in the tooth kind.


He's 19, so some places aren't going to allow him to attend. TNG is probably the best bet.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 4:52:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaKid8

Hey everyone. Well I am pretty new to being a Master and I just got my first slave about two months ago. I have started to get her into pain, abuse and humiliation. Does anyone have any suggestions on things I should do? Any tips?



Talk to her and find out what she doesn't like. Then find out what she does like. And go from there.

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RE: Any suggestions on how to abuse/humiliate my new sl... - 4/5/2012 5:31:35 PM   
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sounds more like you got yourself a bottom...

if I had a slave they'd be cleaning the house... doing yardwork and working on my motorcycle... after that, there might be some sex, for me...

if you don't know what to do with your play partner perhaps you should rethink

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