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Q14 Do you think interracial marriage should be
legal or illegal?
Legal............................................................... 40%
Illegal .............................................................. 46%
Not sure .......................................................... 14%

Q15 Would you describe yourself as very liberal,
somewhat liberal, moderate, somewhat
conservative, or very conservative?
Very liberal ...................................................... 4%
Somewhat liberal ............................................ 4%
Moderate......................................................... 17%
Somewhat conservative.................................. 36%
Very conservative ........................................... 40%

Q16 If you are a woman, press 1. If a man, press 2.
Woman ........................................................... 47%
Man................................................................. 53%

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I've developed a kind of "sixth sense", lately and I foresee five or six more "I want the right to commit infanticide at will because I failed to plan properly before having sex but I'm going to call it 'Family Planning' to mislead people" threads.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I've developed a kind of "sixth sense", lately and I foresee five or six more "I want the right to commit infanticide at will because I failed to plan properly before having sex but I'm going to call it 'Family Planning' to mislead people" threads.

Some people get something in their teeth, realize that their argument is convincing no one, try to strawman the people that are refuting them, fail at that and start a new thread to change the discussion.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I've developed a kind of "sixth sense", lately and I foresee five or six more "I want the right to commit infanticide at will because I failed to plan properly before having sex but I'm going to call it 'Family Planning' to mislead people" threads.

Some people get something in their teeth, realize that their argument is convincing no one, try to strawman the people that are refuting them, fail at that and start a new thread to change the discussion.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: erieangel


Every form of birth control has been known to fail. (The pill is about 99% effective) Both of my kids were birth control pill babies. Even though I was dirt poor when I had my first, I opted against abortion. I could never do it. But I don't want to infringe on another woman's right to not become a mother because her birth control failed.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: erieangel


Every form of birth control has been known to fail. (The pill is about 99% effective) Both of my kids were birth control pill babies. Even though I was dirt poor when I had my first, I opted against abortion. I could never do it. But I don't want to infringe on another woman's right to not become a mother because her birth control failed.

If her birth control failed, she is already a mother because the child exists. Just because a child dies, whether by natural or intentional means, doesn't make her less of a mother.

A woman whose child dies 2 months from conception is not less of a mother than my friend Debbie whose 8 yr old son died of leukemia. It's just a difference of time.

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Every form of birth control has been known to fail. (The pill is about 99% effective)

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Some drugs reduce the effect of the Pill and can cause breakthrough bleeding, or increased chance of pregnancy. These include drugs such as rifampicin, barbiturates, phenytoin and carbamazepine. In addition cautions are given about broad spectrum antibiotics, such as ampicillin and doxycycline, which may cause problems "by impairing the bacterial flora responsible for recycling ethinylestradiol from the large bowel" (BNF 2003).[80][81][82][83]

The traditional medicinal herb St John's Wort has also been implicated due to its upregulation of the P450 system in the liver.

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: erieangel


Every form of birth control has been known to fail. (The pill is about 99% effective) Both of my kids were birth control pill babies. Even though I was dirt poor when I had my first, I opted against abortion. I could never do it. But I don't want to infringe on another woman's right to not become a mother because her birth control failed.

If her birth control failed, she is already a mother because the child exists. Just because a child dies, whether by natural or intentional means, doesn't make her less of a mother.

A woman whose child dies 2 months from conception is not less of a mother than my friend Debbie whose 8 yr old son died of leukemia. It's just a difference of time.

Are you trying to say that a woman who has an abortion at 8 weeks should consider her self a mother? If she has no children?

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ORIGINAL American Heritage Dictionary

plan

NOUN:

A scheme, program, or method worked out beforehand for the accomplishment of an objective: a plan of attack.
A proposed or tentative project or course of action: had no plans for the evening.
A systematic arrangement of elements or important parts; a configuration or outline: a seating plan; the plan of a story.
A drawing or diagram made to scale showing the structure or arrangement of something.
In perspective rendering, one of several imaginary planes perpendicular to the line of vision between the viewer and the object being depicted.
A program or policy stipulating a service or benefit: a pension plan

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Here's where I made the distinction:

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ORIGINAL American Heritage Dictionary

plan

NOUN:

A scheme, program, or method worked out beforehand for the accomplishment of an objective: a plan of attack.
A proposed or tentative project or course of action: had no plans for the evening.
A systematic arrangement of elements or important parts; a configuration or outline: a seating plan; the plan of a story.
A drawing or diagram made to scale showing the structure or arrangement of something.
In perspective rendering, one of several imaginary planes perpendicular to the line of vision between the viewer and the object being depicted.
A program or policy stipulating a service or benefit: a pension plan

Since abortion was, is, and always will be an absolute after-the-fact occurance, lumping it in with "Family Planning" is a purposeful misnomer to make it seem more palatable to some. I absolutely agree that it is a method of "damage control" that is legal and available but in my book, if one plans abortion, in advance (Prior to pregnancy), they're hardly more than a cold-blooded murderer.

I will say it, again as I said on another thread (and received a friendly "warning" from one of my favorite LLLs): "I am for Family Planning" I fully support Family Planning.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: erieangel


Every form of birth control has been known to fail. (The pill is about 99% effective) Both of my kids were birth control pill babies. Even though I was dirt poor when I had my first, I opted against abortion. I could never do it. But I don't want to infringe on another woman's right to not become a mother because her birth control failed.

If her birth control failed, she is already a mother because the child exists. Just because a child dies, whether by natural or intentional means, doesn't make her less of a mother.

A woman whose child dies 2 months from conception is not less of a mother than my friend Debbie whose 8 yr old son died of leukemia. It's just a difference of time.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: erieangel


Every form of birth control has been known to fail. (The pill is about 99% effective) Both of my kids were birth control pill babies. Even though I was dirt poor when I had my first, I opted against abortion. I could never do it. But I don't want to infringe on another woman's right to not become a mother because her birth control failed.

If her birth control failed, she is already a mother because the child exists. Just because a child dies, whether by natural or intentional means, doesn't make her less of a mother.

A woman whose child dies 2 months from conception is not less of a mother than my friend Debbie whose 8 yr old son died of leukemia. It's just a difference of time.

Are you trying to say that a woman who has an abortion at 8 weeks should consider her self a mother? If she has no children?

She does have a child. A dead one.

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LEGAL RIGHTS BEGIN AT BIRTH.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: erieangel


Every form of birth control has been known to fail. (The pill is about 99% effective) Both of my kids were birth control pill babies. Even though I was dirt poor when I had my first, I opted against abortion. I could never do it. But I don't want to infringe on another woman's right to not become a mother because her birth control failed.

If her birth control failed, she is already a mother because the child exists. Just because a child dies, whether by natural or intentional means, doesn't make her less of a mother.

A woman whose child dies 2 months from conception is not less of a mother than my friend Debbie whose 8 yr old son died of leukemia. It's just a difference of time.

Are you trying to say that a woman who has an abortion at 8 weeks should consider her self a mother? If she has no children?

She does have a child. A dead one.

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

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LEGAL RIGHTS BEGIN AT BIRTH.

Not anymore fargle. Read my last two posts on the personhood thread. Hundreds of women around the country have been arrested, charged, tried and convicted for --HAVING MISCARRIAGES!!

These days as soon as a woman becomes pregnant, her body belongs to the state.