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Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 3:35:21 PM   
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At an event late Tuesday — shortly after The Fix wrote about how [Rep. Allen] West [R-Fla.] is too much of a bomb-thrower to be the GOP’s vice presidential nominee — the freshman congressman suggested that as many as 81 Democrats in Congress are not only secret Communists, but actual members of the Communist Party.

Story and video at the Washington Post


Oh my. Didn't we get this out of our system back in the fifties?



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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 3:38:20 PM   
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Our first black president and now our first black Joe McCarthy.

All in one century, nay....one decade.

Proud to be an american.

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 3:44:35 PM   
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Allen West has mellowed with age:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_B._West#Iraq_interrogation_incident

While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[6] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[11]

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 3:45:12 PM   
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Fortunately the 81 commie Dems are balanced by the 81 Tea Party Republicans who are secretly members of the Nazi Party...
/end snark

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 3:48:46 PM   
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On The Daily Show Friday night, Jon Stewart commented on the feud between Florida Reps. Allen West (R) and Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D).

He used a statement issued by West, which read, “Congressman West does not hate women,” to launch his new segment, entitled “Statements of clarification that probably won’t do you any good.”

Watch video, courtesy of Comedy Central, below:

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/07/jon-stewart-recaps-fight-between-allen-west-and-debbie-wasserman-schultz/

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 3:49:08 PM   
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“Whatever you call people that oppose capitalism and free markets and individual economic freedom — maybe it’s ‘socialist,’ maybe it’s ’Communist’ — but that’s the point the congressman was making, and he stands by the words.”

One has to wonder how he got to be so old and so ignorant at the same time. Capitalism is antithetical to free markets and individual economic freedom...and yet this idividual would have us believe that they are one in the same.

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 3:56:49 PM   
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Moderator: What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card-carrying Marxists or International Socialist?

West: It's a good question. I believe there's about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party who are members of the Communist Party. It's called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Some members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus confirmed that they are not, in fact, members of the Communist Party.

"I can confirm that Congresswoman Baldwin is not a communist," said Jerilyn Goodman, spokeswoman for Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc.), a vice chair of the caucus.

"Chellie is a Democrat, a farmer and a Lutheran but no, she is not a Communist," said Willy Ritch, spokesman for Rep. Chellie Pingree (D-Maine), also a vice chair of the caucus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/allen-west-democrats-communist-party_n_1417279.html

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 6:39:27 PM   
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West would be funny... or sad... I can never decide which if he weren't so dangerous.


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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 7:38:05 PM   
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This guy really is a nut ball.

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 7:46:28 PM   
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Isn't it interesting, DC, how the political season rhetoric of the right must be taken literally, while we all just know the Democrats are only being clever when they go orgiastic over accusations of Republicans wanting to push old people over a cliff?

Surely you don't need to google, "metaphor," do you?

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 7:54:54 PM   
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Moderator: What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card-carrying Marxists or International Socialist?

West: It's a good question. I believe there's about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party who are members of the Communist Party. It's called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Some members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus confirmed that they are not, in fact, members of the Communist Party.

"I can confirm that Congresswoman Baldwin is not a communist," said Jerilyn Goodman, spokeswoman for Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc.), a vice chair of the caucus.

"Chellie is a Democrat, a farmer and a Lutheran but no, she is not a Communist," said Willy Ritch, spokesman for Rep. Chellie Pingree (D-Maine), also a vice chair of the caucus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/allen-west-democrats-communist-party_n_1417279.html


That's sad, that the Dems felt the need to refute his claims directly, instead of simply dismissing him as being deluded.

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 7:57:17 PM   
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The "right" has been doing this since before WWII........it`s no less pathetic today than it was 60 years ago........just used more now a days by rightwing dick heads like Mary Matalin,rush,Coulter and glen beck,etc.........and now another elected republican official.


Jeeze rich......what a sorry defense.....


Must suck having the lunatic fringe as half the republican party........lol.


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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/11/2012 8:11:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Moderator: What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card-carrying Marxists or International Socialist?

West: It's a good question. I believe there's about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party who are members of the Communist Party. It's called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Some members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus confirmed that they are not, in fact, members of the Communist Party.

"I can confirm that Congresswoman Baldwin is not a communist," said Jerilyn Goodman, spokeswoman for Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc.), a vice chair of the caucus.

"Chellie is a Democrat, a farmer and a Lutheran but no, she is not a Communist," said Willy Ritch, spokesman for Rep. Chellie Pingree (D-Maine), also a vice chair of the caucus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/allen-west-democrats-communist-party_n_1417279.html


That's sad, that the Dems felt the need to refute his claims directly, instead of simply dismissing him as being deluded.

It on the level of calling someone (falsely)an nazi.....with all the images of death camps and secret police and such.

It`s pandering to the worst and lowest in humans,one of the worst sorts ofcharacter assignation and vile.

At the very least,it should be turned into a buffoon club to beat and embarrass West with.



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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/12/2012 1:58:45 AM   
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Isn't it interesting, DC, how the political season rhetoric of the right must be taken literally, while we all just know the Democrats are only being clever when they go orgiastic over accusations of Republicans wanting to push old people over a cliff?

Surely you don't need to google, "metaphor," do you?

Good thing you're independent, Stretchy.



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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/12/2012 5:18:36 AM   
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That's sad, that the Dems felt the need to refute his claims directly, instead of simply dismissing him as being deluded.


Given that 52 percent [of Mississippi voters] classified [Obama] as a Muslim last month, there's a need to vigorously refute.

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/12/2012 5:37:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Isn't it interesting, DC, how the political season rhetoric of the right must be taken literally, while we all just know the Democrats are only being clever when they go orgiastic over accusations of Republicans wanting to push old people over a cliff?

Surely you don't need to google, "metaphor," do you?


No, I don't need to Google "metaphor," thanks.

Not sure of its relevance to the West video, though. I just rewatched it and didn't detect any sign that he was speaking metaphorically. I also went to his website and didn't see any clarification saying that West was using a metaphor.



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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/12/2012 6:35:56 AM   
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The "right" has been doing this since before WWII........it`s no less pathetic today than it was 60 years ago........just used more now a days by rightwing dick heads like Mary Matalin,rush,Coulter and glen beck,etc.........and now another elected republican official.


Jeeze rich......what a sorry defense.....


Must suck having the lunatic fringe as half the republican party........lol.



It took you over 4 hours to come back with "but they did it first"? You're slipping there owner.

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/12/2012 6:42:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

The "right" has been doing this since before WWII........it`s no less pathetic today than it was 60 years ago........just used more now a days by rightwing dick heads like Mary Matalin,rush,Coulter and glen beck,etc.........and now another elected republican official.


Jeeze rich......what a sorry defense.....


Must suck having the lunatic fringe as half the republican party........lol.



It took you over 4 hours to come back with "but they did it first"? You're slipping there owner.


Thanks for keeping track of the hours.......

What else do you do w/ your free time?


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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/12/2012 6:57:53 AM   
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Isn't it interesting, DC, how the political season rhetoric of the right must be taken literally, while we all just know the Democrats are only being clever when they go orgiastic over accusations of Republicans wanting to push old people over a cliff?

Surely you don't need to google, "metaphor," do you?

You can't be serious. The repubs have given new meaning to the words, hypocrisy, demagoguery, chutzpah and propaganda, the repetitiveness of which is designed to make us all believe them and with many...it's working.

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RE: Communists in Congress - 4/12/2012 7:14:34 AM   
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