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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/16/2012 6:11:24 PM   
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This is from a series I wrote several years ago called "The Good Girl's Guide to Domination." It got a lot of positive feedback from couples in your situation.

The Good Girl’s Guide to Domination

"I believe that many women are intimidated by and uncomfortable with the concept of erotic female domination because of the way they see it portrayed in adult films and in the media. I believe that men also develop many bad habits after years of satisfying their fantasies on their own, and focusing on their own pleasure. Through communication, trust and safe, sane & consensual exploration of erotic power exchange, I think many couples can experience pleasure they never imagined, and also develop better relationship communication and intimacy."

INTRODUCTION
I receive a lot of email from women who are exploring domination. Many of them are doing it at the urging of their husbands or boyfriends, and the woman's attitude can range from "This sounds ridiculous and twisted and I don't think I can ever do it but I want to make him happy" to "Hmm, sounds kind of interesting, but some of that stuff is just too weird." The common question is always, "Where do I even start?"

I decided to develop a series of "scenes" that range from extremely tame to a little more risky. But rather than just say, "Tie up your mate and do this, that, and the other thing to him," I wanted to add what is important:

What YOU might get out of it
How you can do it without feeling uncomfortable
How to communicate about it

Hopefully, the end result will be that you find there are things you kind of enjoy, things you do once and say "not for me," and things you do and look back and think, "Hey, that was really HOT! I want to try that again."

ABOUT ME
To help you better understand where I am coming from, let me tell you a little bit about who I am, and about this web site. I'm a very normal woman living a very normal life, with a career, and a mate. Unlike most of the women I hear from, I got into "erotic power exchange" on my own, when I was an experimenting teenager, and was not introduced to this by a boyfriend or husband. When I was a teenager, while relatively sexually conservative, I was fascinated with the sensualism associated with games like tying up my partner, or using blindfolds. As I got older, I was exposed to more, at my own pace, and found that there were a great many things I could enjoy with a partner. Some of them are considered quite kinky. In fact, some of the things I do now, I would NEVER have imagined I would do! One thing has never changed though, and let me make this clear:

I have always found the portrayal of "dominant women" in adult films and most adult erotica to be cheesy, ridiculous, and sometimes downright silly.

Chances are that you might only know about female domination from these ridiculous portrayals of latex clad divas and men acting pathetic and you feel embarrassed for them. Rest assured, this is NOT what you are going to become. These films are developed to cater to a male audience. And most men, while they kind of dig that fantasy, really want one thing: A woman who really ENJOYS dominating him. That is more important than a costume or a fetish.

First, the rules. Please read these WITH your mate.

FOR HIM:
--No nagging. Don't push her into doing it. Let her do it when she is ready. Don't pressure. If she says "I am going to give this a try when I am ready," you are to back off and let her approach it in her own way.
--No asking for more. When she's done with the scene or session with you, don't ask for more. Even if you think you are complimenting her by saying, "Oh I am so turned on, please can we keep going" -- DON'T. There is a time for communication (more on that later), but when she signals that she is done, you can't ask for more.
--Don't top from the bottom. No hinting at her, no telling her what to do, no trying to "help" her unless she asks for it. No trying to manipulate her into doing more of what you like. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS FOR HER TO FIND OUT WHAT SHE ENJOYS. You already know what you enjoy.
--Don't get addicted. The rush will be fantastic. Separate your relationship from your passion for these games and don't let it rule your life. Provide her with appropriate affection and encouragement in the hours and days following her exploration, without expecting anything in return.
--Retain dignity. If groveling is your kink, please tone it down. Keep your reactions in check and note how she responds to your reactions. The goal here is to not have her feel uncomfortable when she sees you submit. All women react differently to varying degrees of humility in their mates. It's your job to find out what her comfort zone is. It might change with time, but out of the gate you want her to enjoy it and not be distracted by you acting too pathetic for her taste.

FOR HER:
--Enjoy yourself. Let go. Don't compare yourself to the stereotype of what you think "female domination" is -- whether it be a dominatrix you saw on TV or something you read in the newspaper or saw in an adult movie or B-movie. This isn't the same thing.
--Enjoy yourself. Make sure you do the things you like and do them lots. If something feels right but you feel confused about it, know that you can reflect on it later, communicate with your mate and find out how you feel about it.
--Enjoy yourself. This is YOUR time. Do not get caught in the trap of thinking, "Ok, I can do this. I can stomach it to please my partner because I love him." That's not the point. It defeats the purpose.
--BE SAFE. Most of these examples are fairly tame, but always know your partner, his health situation, allergies. Always have a communication mode set up, either agree to talk openly during the entire time (So if he says "STOP", that means stop), or set up a "SAFEWORD" if you prefer to role play -- so if he says "STOP" and is just being dramatic, have a code word that really means "STOP". Personally, I prefer open communication, especially if you are just starting.



THE GROUND RULES FOR BOTH PEOPLE
--All play is initiated by the woman. She picks the date and time. It is up to her whether or not to give advanced notice, and also to still NOT choose to play at that time.
--Play starts AND stops when she feels it should. When she is finished, or "stuck," or if she feels that it just isn't clicking with her, she says, "I'd like to stop now," and all bets are off.
--Communication must take place after the "scene" is over -- in preferably three segments. One, about ten or fifteen minutes after completion. Spend some quiet time cuddling or making love, and then take a few minutes to reflect on how both people enjoyed it. Talk about it again later -- a few hours later. Often new feelings come out. Then, try to talk about it the next day when you have had a chance to totally remove yourself.


TOPICS FOR POST-SCENE DISCUSSION
--What did she enjoy most? This is her opportunity to share what has worked for her. Also, ladies, remember that often a great deal of the pleasure the man receives is in knowing that he did a good job or made her feel good. This is your chance to give him praise.

--What pushed his buttons? Gentlemen, please do not use this post-scene time to lay out your laundry or wish list. YES, do tell her what pushed your buttons. But cautiously phrase things. DO say things like, "When you pinched my nipples, I thought I was going to lose it! That was so intense and exciting." DO NOT say things like, "I wish you would have pinched my nipples more." Don't phrase things in the negative. Say what you liked, not what could have been better, UNLESS she asks you. This is confidence-building time.

--What odd emotions are you facing? For both partners. Guilt? Shame? Why are you feeling these things? What is worrying or nagging you? Talk through the roller coaster of emotions are you both feeling to better understand how this makes you feel. Note that many times the emotions run VERY high right after completing this kind of scenario, and it takes some time to level off. Think about what you are feeling and talk about it.

--Aftercare -- do not underestimate the importance of "aftercare" for both partners. It is common for one or both people to feel exhausted, zoned, restless or confused. Often a sure-fire aftercare method, to help both people settle down, is good old fashioned quiet cuddling. Gentlemen, do not forget that femdoms need aftercare too -- often they are dealing with confusing feelings of guilt, or wondering if they were adequate. Also, remember that aftercare comes also the next day -- a phone call or an email to say again, "I really enjoyed that." The bottom line: Communicate!

QUICK TIPS FOR HER ENJOYMENT:
Ladies, I cannot emphasize enough how important these few tips are:

1. ENJOY YOURSELF. Don't try to do this just to please your partner. This is playful, sexual experimentation. Treat it as that.
2. DO NOT force yourself to do any of these things if you are not in the mood. Period.
3. KNOW THAT YOU CAN STOP whenever you want. He knows the rules. You do this on your time. Don't feel obligated.
4. THINK ABOUT the fantasy/scene ahead of time -- a day or two before, a few hours before. Think about what will make it exciting for you. Think about how shocked and enamored he is going to be.
5. REMEMBER there is no set start and stop time, or "time length" this should last. It may be ten or fifteen minutes. It may be a half hour. It may be broken up throughout the day or over a few days. When you are done, or feeling not quite into it, you say, "I am ready to stop now." At first, you may want to purposely take less time in your adventures -- they can be exhausting!

ON TO THE SCENES
The following are simple suggestions for games that you can play with your mate. You take on all the risks involved, and please note that these are suggestions. Always keep safety in mind, and be aware of your partner's physical and emotional well being. Always communicate and always have an agreed upon way to stop the interaction immediately. This is critical to trust and safety!


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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/16/2012 6:11:45 PM   
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As has been pointed out, many times, there is NO magic potion that will turn your reluctant girl friend into your dream Domme.  Knowing that she will never be your Domme, you have choices to make.  You make the choices alone as you will be the one to live with those choices.  No one else can tell you how to live your life, just as you can not tell your girl friend she is a Domme when she is not. 

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/16/2012 6:14:09 PM   
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The question for the OP then from my perspective is... Where is wiitwd on your list of priorities? Once you know that, you will have your answer.
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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/16/2012 6:22:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

This is from a series I wrote several years ago called "The Good Girl's Guide to Domination." It got a lot of positive feedback from couples in your situation.

The Good Girl’s Guide to Domination

That is superb, Akasha. Thank you.

Just yesterday, I sent a link to one of your old posts to one of my favorite people, and she laughed and said, "I love Akasha. I've been reading her site since high school."

(That might make you feel old, I know, but I decided to share the quote anyway, because I hope you get out of it that you've helped shape a generation of kinky women -- which I'm sure you already know.)

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/16/2012 9:47:57 PM   
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I know people are tired of the OP asking the same question over and over again... But I just want to say thank you to the OP because some of the responses here have resonated with me and what I'm currently feeling. So thanks to some of you for what you said, even though it wasn't aimed at/meant for me.

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/16/2012 10:16:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

This is from a series I wrote several years ago called "The Good Girl's Guide to Domination." It got a lot of positive feedback from couples in your situation.

The Good Girl’s Guide to Domination

That is superb, Akasha. Thank you.

Just yesterday, I sent a link to one of your old posts to one of my favorite people, and she laughed and said, "I love Akasha. I've been reading her site since high school."

(That might make you feel old, I know, but I decided to share the quote anyway, because I hope you get out of it that you've helped shape a generation of kinky women -- which I'm sure you already know.)



Thank you. And yes, I do feel old sometimes, because I was posting on the Internet about this topic back when the WWW was pretty much all text. Yikes. But I might be in the minority on this topic; I don't think ALL women who are "not" into femdom can't be brought into it. I know I was tying up guys and curious about power exchange before I knew what S&M was, or sex was, for that matter, and the first time as a babysitter I peeked at a copy of Penthouse Forum and read as story and saw a bondage ad I was like "OH MY GOD THAT IS SO DISGUSTING!"

The first time I was introduced to the idea of a man "on a leash" I couldn't help but think, "how do two people do that without laughing their asses off because that has to feel goddamn stupid, how can you take that seriously?" I remember seeing full bondage gear even as a growing bondage enthusiast and reacting like most mainstream people do when they see "THE GIMP" in pulp fiction, or "The dominatrix that stole my boyfriend!" on Jerry Springer.

To a vanilla person, kinky people look like freaks, weirdos. And when they think of "submissive men" or "men in bondage" they think of men dressed like "the gimp" crawling around on the floor and they feel embarrassed by the mere idea of it and the last thing they want is to view the man they respect and want to be protected by in that kind of situation.

There are SO MANY more attractive ways to view submission that are not the norm, and when I talk to women about what submission from a man can look like and how it feels to be worshiped, or be in control, or how exciting sadism can feel, or how sensual a man can be when he is vulnerable.

But this also requires a man to give up his preconceived notions of the porn stereotype as well, and that doesn't just include how the femdom acts, but how he handles his own submission. For some women, the worthless worm will never be accepted.

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 7:19:47 AM   
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Here's what you do.  Knock it off!

For the love of mike, stop trying to change this woman to suit what you want for kink.  Believe it or not, some people aren't kinky, don't want to be kinky, and can end up resenting the person who is trying to make them kinky.  Your desire for kink doesn't override her desire to be vanilla.



Many marriages are made up out of “things” that are compatible and things where a sort of compromise has been reached. Partners do things that is not really in their list of favs for the other partner all the time. In the bedroom it’s called role playing . If his girlfriend found his wishes that abhorrent then SHE can end the relationship and yet according to him she thinks that despite this that he is the one for her. Really it’s not just for him to decide but for his girlfriend to decide here as well, as clearly his “kink” as you put it is a big part of his character and what makes him into what he is and cannot just be turned off. So she needs to decide, can she compromise here and still have all the other bits of the relationship that she likes.?

Ever notice on these types of threads that it's always the vanilla person who gets expected to "compromise"?  The above (and I'm not picking on you in particular here) tends to be the typical response.  The "oh, if she loves you, she'll do it for you" reaction.  In other words, she'll be the person who has to do things that she doesn't really desire.  (Very ironic, since he's trying to get her to be the Domme.)  Notice that hardly nobody ever tells the kinky partner "well, if you love her, you'll give it up"?

I was writing this on another thread just recently.  My husband and I are actually not kink compatible.  It's not so much that one of us wouldn't do things for the other.  It's more that we both know that when that happens, the person 'doing things' for the other really isn't happy.  Neither of us like putting the other in that position, so kink, with each other, doesn't work.  It kills the joy buzz.

It just surprises Me that more people don't run that thought pattern.  The one that says the other person doesn't really like doing these things.  That person is only doing that for Me or if they had their honest preference, they wouldn't do those things at all and that's not enough for somebody NOT to have to want their partner to do that.



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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 7:44:59 AM   
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Relationships are full of irreconcilable differences - and yet people often mistakenly think that just because an issue with their partner is irreconcilable, that it must thereby mean the end of the relationship.

When actually, it is only when an irreconcilable difference becomes an incompatibility that the relationship is actually in jeopardy.

As a transgendered person, you learn this pretty quickly. I lived for years with a woman for whom my being transgendered was part of an irreconcilable difference that she was never going to get over. And that was her right.

But it was only when -I- finally changed and decided that being authentic was something that I had to have in my life - that it became an incompatibility between us. And that was -my- right.

Point is, you cannot make someone into something they are not. But there are ways to work around such irreconcilable differences. It is a core value of poly.

So your girlfriend may not be kinky and that is irreconcilable...but if she is willing to let you get your kink on with someone else, then hey you make it work and you maintain compatibility. But if she is not willing to let you have what you need and is not willing to change herself...then you two create a point of incompatibility and it is time to look to find other partners.

BTW: Hit reply to LadyP's post, but this is more a general reply about the differences between irreconcilable and incompatible.





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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 7:48:49 AM   
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I'd just add that it gets so very old when someone has an agenda and even though they *think* they aren't pushing it onto the person they are with, it's so important to them that they see it everywhere and make mountains out of molehills. Like the OP relating what to him were the few successes in having his kink itches scratched by the gf, he's mentioned them all several times and they've given him the energy to keep trying. If you are focused on something that is important to you then you see it everywhere because you can't stop thinking about it. Which is why it makes sense to be with someone who shares the obsession.

If he's waiting there, watching, for anything she might do that fits his kink it's going to be so old to her in a short amount of time. I had an ex that could never get enough sex, there was never an off button. I like sex, with him I grew to hate it. Every time I turned around he interpreted something to suit his obsession and I was constantly having to either turn him down, which I didn't want to do, or I had to avoid him because he never stopped.

OP, you're going to argue and say you're not doing this, you aren't after her all the time in the hopes of getting your fantasies fulfilled. You're going to say that you love her, and respect her preferences. If you do love her you need to sit down and explain wtf is going on, stop with the hints and let her in on the secret. You tried more subtle thing, it didn't seem to work. If she's willing to try you need to back the hell off and let her take charge exactly how it's been suggested already. You watching like a dog for table scraps is going to turn her off quicker than anything - it's her show and she does as she likes with it. I'd have to say it doesn't seem possible that you'll be able to not follow your kink, you're way too invested in it. I think the best thing here is probably to end the relationship.

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 7:55:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Ever notice on these types of threads that it's always the vanilla person who gets expected to "compromise"?  The above (and I'm not picking on you in particular here) tends to be the typical response.  The "oh, if she loves you, she'll do it for you" reaction.  In other words, she'll be the person who has to do things that she doesn't really desire.  (Very ironic, since he's trying to get her to be the Domme.)  Notice that hardly nobody ever tells the kinky partner "well, if you love her, you'll give it up"?



^^^^ This.


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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 3:20:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Scala


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Here's what you do.  Knock it off!

For the love of mike, stop trying to change this woman to suit what you want for kink.  Believe it or not, some people aren't kinky, don't want to be kinky, and can end up resenting the person who is trying to make them kinky.  Your desire for kink doesn't override her desire to be vanilla.



Many marriages are made up out of “things” that are compatible and things where a sort of compromise has been reached. Partners do things that is not really in their list of favs for the other partner all the time. In the bedroom it’s called role playing . If his girlfriend found his wishes that abhorrent then SHE can end the relationship and yet according to him she thinks that despite this that he is the one for her. Really it’s not just for him to decide but for his girlfriend to decide here as well, as clearly his “kink” as you put it is a big part of his character and what makes him into what he is and cannot just be turned off. So she needs to decide, can she compromise here and still have all the other bits of the relationship that she likes.?

Ever notice on these types of threads that it's always the vanilla person who gets expected to "compromise"?  The above (and I'm not picking on you in particular here) tends to be the typical response.  The "oh, if she loves you, she'll do it for you" reaction.  In other words, she'll be the person who has to do things that she doesn't really desire.  (Very ironic, since he's trying to get her to be the Domme.)  Notice that hardly nobody ever tells the kinky partner "well, if you love her, you'll give it up"?





You make it sound as if its like smoking ..just give it up. For many, including me it doesn't work that way. Its part of what I am. Its not a seperate entity from the rest of me, that can just be switched off.
I think that being in love would maybe help supress it for a while but it will be like an itch that always kept coming back.
...its like her> >> " oh Scala you are so polite and you always put my needs first , and you do everything to please me , you buy me lots of shoes and you never expect a thank you .. then me >> oh thats nice to hear Mrs Scala but you need to smack me around a bit if you want it to continue







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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 3:41:08 PM   
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You make it sound as if its like smoking ..just give it up. For many, including me it doesn't work that way. Its part of what I am. Its not a seperate entity from the rest of me, that can just be switched off.
I think that being in love would maybe help supress it for a while but it will be like an itch that always kept coming back.
...its like her> >> " oh Scala you are so polite and you always put my needs first , and you do everything to please me , you buy me lots of shoes and you never expect a thank you .. then me >> oh thats nice to hear Mrs Scala but you need to smack me around a bit if you want it to continue

Some can and some can't.  We agree on that.  I happen to be in the category that can.  It's just not as important to Me as the fact that My other half doesn't like be the receiver.  That's why I beat other people. 

The question that follows is, if Mrs Scala just really didn't want to participate, at what point in that incompatibility would it have been better to find a different Mrs Scala?


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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 3:43:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Ever notice on these types of threads that it's always the vanilla person who gets expected to "compromise"?  The above (and I'm not picking on you in particular here) tends to be the typical response.  The "oh, if she loves you, she'll do it for you" reaction.  In other words, she'll be the person who has to do things that she doesn't really desire.  (Very ironic, since he's trying to get her to be the Domme.)  Notice that hardly nobody ever tells the kinky partner "well, if you love her, you'll give it up"?



^^^^ This.




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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 5:47:49 PM   
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Hi all, I have been asking you guys a lot in the past few months about my vanilla relationship im in, and i've gotten some really good feedback. Sorry to keep asking similiar things, just still not happy with the way things are going.

Long story short, i'm with my girlfriend now for about 4 1/2 months.. We have a great connection, care for eachother alot, sshe thinks im the one for her, the vanilla sex is good, etc etc.. Problem is, i've been trying to introduce her to the lifestyle, and trying to be submissive to her, but shes really just not into it.

At first I thought things were going well, we had a little agreement where she was allowed to go out to the bars with her friend who is a total flirt who gets with a lot of guys, and dresses very sexual.. and I wassn't allowed to go to the bars. Minor, i know, but a step in the right direction. Anyway, the other day she said im sick, and she was joking about that.. She told me then if I dont do what she says she will tell her friends i have a small dick, but then again, when we talked about it further I could see she wasn't sincere about that either.

I tried getting her to be my financial domme, and told her I would pay her 100$ every week, but again she wasn't into that either.. I posted asking if paying a findomme online was cheating and you guys said yes, so i tried to to this with her, but it backfired..

The closest i've gotten to bdsm or humiliation with her was when she was totally drunk, didnt really feel my dick inside of her, so i used a strap on.. but the next day i tried to do the samre thing when she was sober but she said it was too big and hurt her..

Anyway, sorry to rant guys. Bottom line is, shes really not into this- and I really like her a lot, but im always looking to scratch that itch.. Always thiking of serving, bdsm, humuliation, reading femdoms blogs, findommes blogs, etc etc..
I dont know what to do..


You are not going to like what I have to say. One, that you are confusing domination with kinky playtime. Also, you are dominating her like crazy, twisting her arm behind her back to get her to do all the things you want her to do.

"...she was allowed to..." Imagine that smilie saying "I am the boss" while the "submissive" pulls all the strings and see how ridiculous that looks. Or, TRY to see how ridiculous that looks to ME.

With this,

"She told me then if I dont do what she says she will tell her friends i have a small dick, but then again, when we talked about it further I could see she wasn't sincere about that either."
It sounds like she might have had a small taste of enjoying herself, and instead of helping her to enjoy this moment by acting a bit skeered and behaving, you had to plow right through, backing her into a corner, and proving to yourself that she wouldn't actually do this. Come on fella, wake up to what you are doing. Any chance she is having of feeling her own power and enjoying using it, you are taking a wrecking ball right through it and making her very aware that she truly has no power at all.

"I tried getting her to be my financial domme, and told her I would pay her 100$ every week, but again she wasn't into that either.. "
Once again you are forcing your kink down her throat and trying to pass it off as an act of dominance on her part. Was this HER kink? Did she wake up one morning and say you have way too much free money to spend on bars and on pay-per-domination sites, and decide to take this away from you to the tune of $100 per week? This came from YOU. If not, then only in fantasy could you imagine this to be an act of submission on your part. Can you see that you are not "helping" her to become your Domme but are trying to turn her into a...stage prop?

quote:

The closest i've gotten to bdsm or humiliation with her was when she was totally drunk, didnt really feel my dick inside of her, so i used a strap on.. but the next day i tried to do the samre thing when she was sober but she said it was too big and hurt her..

I can see where you were going with this. You wanted to f*k her and feel the penis humiliation thing. You had your scene set and stage prop "totally drunk" so she could perform this humiliation service for you to enjoy. (When you say totally drunk, do you mean passed out, or simply too drunk to say no to your using her in this way...)

Am I missing something? Did she decide she wanted to be f*d by that huge strapon, had tried out the dildo herself before that night and decided she needed to be good and drunk first to loosen up enough to be able to handle it? Or was she just helplessly drunk and YOU decided to take advantage of the fact that she was "totally drunk"...way to go if you want her to feel that she can trust you with her very life.

So...in the morning she said, while puking in the toilet bowl and needing aspirin for her hangover, that she wanted you to f*k her with that strapon again? Really? Or did you enjoy your feelings of humiliation so much that you...needed your stage prop to perform for you again...


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Anyway, sorry to rant guys.

(And still, in spite of other threads, you FEEL you have a RIGHT to rant some more.) Okay, I'll go back to trying to be nice about this and...do my best to enlighten you. My first boyfriend behaved a lot like you. Because of him it took me until I was 39 to "discover" that I really was kinky. It's true that she needs to find out within herself if this spark to dominate someone is there, but...you are in a position to help her...or at the very least DO NO HARM.

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Bottom line is, shes really not into this- and I really like her a lot, but im always looking to scratch that itch.. Always thiking of serving, bdsm, humuliation, reading femdoms blogs, findommes blogs, etc etc..
I dont know what to do..


Btw, I consider all that I highlighted...to be akin to adultery if someone is my lover. If they are enjoying thinking of sex with another woman, they are cheating on me mentally and emotionally. Random thoughts are different, nobody can help those, but we are responsible for what we choose to keep fantasizing about, and the people or blogs or cybering we seek out. You might be lucky to have a vanilla girlfriend...a Domme might recognise your sense of entitlement and prefer someone else who is more loyal.

Again, before this is lost in my epic post, my ex thought I was not into this.

Several lovers afterward thought I was not into this.

Everyone was wrong...they simply were clueless as to how to help me become aware, feel safe to explore this side of myself, and to enjoy having real power...until I met someone who did all this for me. If you want to know how he knew to reach me, well, lol, it was from a free reading at someone's pay site, an article called The Good Girl's Guide to Domination. http://www.akashaweb.com/women/goodgirlpreview.html Off and on, over the years, when all the asshats got to me and I felt myself burning out I would go back and read...it reminded me of what I was looking for and that eventually I'd find the right man.

When I found him, I dragged him to that article and had a long talk. During the first months, off and on, and I believe, subconsciously...he would try to put strings on me and pull them.

My advice...
Stop all the reading of BDSM porn stories and blogs and contact with fin dommes.
Show her some loyalty, and that SHE is more important than your kinks.
Stop using her as a prop for your fantasy wankage.
Buy a book called When Someone You Love is Kinky and read it with your girlfriend, or
Read that article from the link I posted, then read it with your girlfriend.
Pray really hard that she doesn't discover these message boards and reads some of your posts.

Either she will discover that D/s feels good to her or that it has no appeal. If she is doing this only to humor you and learns that she needs to stay vanilla... Decide if she is enough for you, and if not, then have the decency to break it off so that you are a free man and can honorably go looking for the kink you need.

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/17/2012 6:06:29 PM   
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Cynthia...that was a hell of a post ...awesome!

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/20/2012 4:11:36 AM   
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You would probably be a lot happier if you could enjoy what you have instead of trying to change the person you are having such good sex with.

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/20/2012 9:50:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveloser69

I have tried to talking to her about BDSM-kinda, but it doesn't really work.



What does BDSM-kinda mean??? People tend to be very guarded about any "alternative" sexuality they entertain. Good communication is key! I am sure that fear has caused many a compatible pair to split up because they were both too afraid to discover they were compatible.

If you enjoy being humiliated, then humiliate yourself by expressing to her openly, exactly and without reservation your specific sexual desires. I project there may be three possible results if you do:

1. She may still be uninterested in the lifestyle or in Doming you, but may love you enough to tolerate you humiliating yourself to her... which you may find satisfying enough.

2. She may feel safe enough then to come out with her own kinks - and we all have some kind of kink. It may or may not be compatible with what you are looking for. Or it may be something entirely unexpected that works for you just as well.

3. She may state flatly that she is not interested in anything alternative, either for herself, or with you... in which case you have learned something important. The relationship will never work, no matter how you feel now. That itch will never really go away, and you will eventually resent her for making you bury it.

Good luck.

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 4/20/2012 11:17:38 AM   
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I don't continue if someone isn't dominant. I have always been submissive and always will be. I hvae always found that if they say they might be or they would like to try (and they are about my age) they never can. They laugh or they try something really gentle (even by my standards, I'm not very extreme really) or they just don't get it and what arouses me doesn't arouse them. It's hopeless. That's very sad. Obviously things are different if someone is in a long marriage with children and making something work, but new possible relationships where you're exploring where he isn't dom I just have to end. I am having to deal with that today. It's a shame.

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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 5/25/2012 8:54:11 AM   
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If she's not into your interests, then it's time to start looking. Despite years of being submissive, i somehow ended up marrying a vanilla woman and i've had to hide and completely let go of all my submissive desires since she doesn't like it.  Don't make that mistake.


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RE: My Girl is just not into bdsm.. - 5/25/2012 12:09:45 PM   
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.....It's a bitter pill to swallow, but you are doomed in this relationship.

Your problem isn't that she won't bang your ass hard. Your problem is that you are both tap dancing and LYING about who you both are and what you want. One wonders how many other huge, stinky dishonesty-gorillas are currently residing in your mental living room. I'll go out on a limb and guess it's a number greater than 6.

If you love her, tell her the truth. It will set you free (probably as in alone, single-free).

Eventually, you're going to want someone who's into it to beat your ass. The odds of that being her this far in and with so much bad taste in her mouth are approximately zero. There is no secret Jedi mind trick to turn her into a dominant woman.

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