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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 12:09:22 AM

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Do many people here have certain users that view their profile - over and over and over and over again? And never say anthing -? Whats that all about?

Yes. And it gives me the heebie jeebies. I have probably 5-10 that view it between once - 5 times per week. Odeen says they are probably jacking off to my pic. Ew.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 12:32:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

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ORIGINAL: JanahX

Do many people here have certain users that view their profile - over and over and over and over again? And never say anthing -? Whats that all about?

Yes. And it gives me the heebie jeebies. I have probably 5-10 that view it between once - 5 times per week. Odeen says they are probably jacking off to my pic. Ew.

There is one who has been viewing my profile at least once a week, and sometimes as many as five times a day, for years. He lives in Canada. He wrote to me once a long time ago and I told him I wasn't interested, but he still continues to view my profile regularly. I found out he is doing the same thing to a friend of mine. He must have a thing for Texas Dommes.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 1:08:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: JanahX

Do many people here have certain users that view their profile - over and over and over and over again? And never say anthing -? Whats that all about?

Yup. I have written some of them and asked. In my case, they wanted me to know they liked me and were interested. However, they didn't want to be aggressive. They wanted me to take make first contact. Sort of like batting your eyelashes or perking your tits up at someone to get their attention.

I can see that as a submissive or feminine move. don't know what it means if I Dom or a guy is doing it to a sub. Someone I find irresistible that pops up on radar but I have perved them before and wonder why I haven't contacted them. I'll read their profile again occasionally but not over and over and over again.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 3:20:32 AM

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Yes. And it gives me the heebie jeebies. I have probably 5-10 that view it between once - 5 times per week. Odeen says they are probably jacking off to my pic. Ew.

While I've never done that, I'm not exactly clear on why that would inspire an "ew" response. I would find it flattering to have strangers of either sex consider me attractive enough to figure in their fantasies, so long as they don't try to involve me personally in it against my will. Is this the men vs women thing, or am I just odd?

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 3:51:41 AM

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JanahX you have mail please.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 5:54:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX

Do many people here have certain users that view their profile - over and over and over and over again? And never say anthing -? Whats that all about?

Yup. I have written some of them and asked. In my case, they wanted me to know they liked me and were interested. However, they didn't want to be aggressive. They wanted me to take make first contact. Sort of like batting your eyelashes or perking your tits up at someone to get their attention.

I can see that as a submissive or feminine move. don't know what it means if I Dom or a guy is doing it to a sub. Someone I find irresistible that pops up on radar but I have perved them before and wonder why I haven't contacted them. I'll read their profile again occasionally but not over and over and over again.

I used to look at my "who's viewing me" but it seemed to consist mainly of men from Texas which made them geographically undesirable.

As a fem sub, I'm not interested in a man who views me and then does not write - I assume he's either not interested or not assertive. That link will just have to remain red.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 5:57:32 AM

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Can someone PM me here or n Fetl with the details of that other thread?

Me too please!

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 6:13:18 AM

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I have profiles that I know I have looked at repeatedly, it might be because I was browsing pictures and they had new pictures, (cuz hidden ones still show up there) or someone that I look at their profile and go, oh, thats why I didnt contact her (but it wasnt enough to make me puke so I didnt hide her), or the most common, of two types:

Like the shit out of the person by pictures, but it is a typically female fucked-up profile spoken in female codes that they think guys should get, and they think they are telling you everything out loud, but are not imparting anything resembling information or really who they are. And so what could you say? 'Hey, your profiles really fucked up, and I would like to talk with you, but you are very defensive (rightfully so) and I just cant find anything you got that leads me to belive that you are perching out on the branch waiting to be plucked up by the hawk'.

Or number two. Pretty good profile, pretty girl, but journal is sort of bitchy (for good reasons) and there just isnt anything clever I have laying around to say to them that they havent heard 10 thousand times, and nothing to really set me apart from any other slob.
Oh, I have tried a few with something completely clever and smart ass, but funny as a motherfucker if you are in for it, but it is often perceived as all that without the funny based on their past experience.

So, that is some what for me at any rate, are valid examples of why I would do that, and it isnt a matter of whether or not I am agressive or manly or any other thing, it is a matter of futility, based on my experience in the meat market.

Women, whether they will admit it or not, are piss poor at singling the good guys out from the wanks, they dont want to be lied to, but they most often end up with the silver tongued liars and conmen.

They; despite their best efforts; are snatched up by decent guys by pure accident and folly, if ever they are, and not by thier own disgression.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 6:33:23 AM

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Women, whether they will admit it or not, are piss poor at singling the good guys out from the wanks, they dont want to be lied to, but they most often end up with the silver tongued liars and conmen.

You must be joking. Your statement, serious or not, is an insult to my intelligence.

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They; despite their best efforts; are snatched up by decent guys by pure accident and folly, if ever they are, and not by thier own disgression.

Ah...so i am happily married to a good man because of the luck of the draw?

Women are not objects left on the side of the curb Ron, to be picked up at random. I have never put myself out there blindly, hoping that i would be lucky enough to be "snatched up" by a decent man as opposed to a liar or con man.

As hard as it is for your domly dom sexist ass to understand, we females can be rather astute judges of character and we make the choice of whom we are with.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 6:39:26 AM

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So, your joetheplumber anecdote is the synecdoche for the way things be.

Agreed, there are those that hit it right off the bat. What is the divorce rate in our society? How many boyfreinds does it take to get there? How many men are in prison for date rapes? How did the BTK killer have any victims?

I did not set out to insult your intelligence, but I am not sorry that I did, it serves my point. You have taken umbrage at something based upon a faulty interpretation of what I have said.

I really got no dogs in this fight, I so don't give a fuck, it is what it is.

Remember, here a stalker may be defined as someone who takes an interest, someone who is looking at your profile repeatedly, as well as some dickweed who is harrassing you thru cmail.

Mixed all in with some guy who wasnt clever enough to say something in a cmail that you immediately adored.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 6:49:56 AM

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never mind.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 7:02:45 AM

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For a moment there, I was sitting and trying to figure out how a thread about stalkers took a left turn into women lacking intelligence. I honestly had to scroll up to find the sharp left to Albequerque.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Women, whether they will admit it or not, are piss poor at singling the good guys out from the wanks, they dont want to be lied to, but they most often end up with the silver tongued liars and conmen.

They; despite their best efforts; are snatched up by decent guys by pure accident and folly, if ever they are, and not by thier own disgression.

Now, I'm not going to get upset at being told that because I have a uterus, I can't judge a good human being from the bad. The statement, especially after reading the profile attached, is just knee-jerk, frustrated misoginy, and that triggers more sympathy than annoyance.

Where I do take exception to your comment, mnottertail, is the timing and location of your joke. Good lord, I hope it's a joke. Otherwise you just told half the gender that ending up with a stalker is purely a matter of their own "piss poor" judgement in men.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 7:07:45 AM

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I did not set out to insult your intelligence, but I am not sorry that I did, it serves my point.

This speaks volumes of your character.

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Women, whether they will admit it or not, are piss poor at singling the good guys

I used to think YOU were one of the good guys, Ron, so i sadly concede your point

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 8:06:09 AM

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Holly, I never was one of the good guys.

Cannie:

And there it is, how easy misunderstandings develop. Nowhere have I said, or even imputed that women are stupid.

I have no problem telling someone they are fucking stupid in real plain english, ask around.

Now, I know that women have bad experiences (as they view them) with interactions on the cmail side from assclowns, happens alot.

men also have bad experiences with women here and thru cmail, (as they view them), also happens alot, it takes at least one man and one woman (or if you prefer cuz it happens in their world as well, one woman one woman, one man one man, one hermophrodite one hermoprhodite) and all the combinations.

Thousands of threads over the millenia of collarme, and in those thousands, how many guys would kvetch for fucking pages about how rotten men are, based on some asshole who is creating profiles to harrass some girl. Hey, world we live in, men are the agressors, the pursuers and not everybody has been to charm school. So, should guys sit and wait for you to dive on us then?

So then it goes to some guy is looking at my profile and not writing to me, or some guy sends me a one liner, or some guy said something I didnt like.

Well, in many cases we are just regular people (like you) without the savoir faire and unctuous, fatuous vocab to say the right thing at every time or behave according to some rather nebulous stricture that EVEN IN CHURCH, let alone a sexually oriented website in the minds of women seem to be for some aesthetic reason known only to their individual psyches and egos, is worthy of disdain and trammeling mens motives in wholesale.

So, I am acceptably socially sorry that I have offended you all, (but not heartily sorry, in that I am not guilty that the chinese are communists) based on some shared angst that women have based on one or two or more past experiences that would imbue every man that acts in any way that confuses you with a stalker or axemurdering potential, or any nefarious intent at all.

Hey, fuckin ask a guy why he repeatedly looks at your profile but doesnt cmail you why he is doing it, or would that be unacceptable somehow?

Maybe not every guy has (and confident as he may be, or as suave as he may be) has the gift of saying something compelling in every situation, especially if the only thing it can come down to is:

I really would like to get to know you, but I have tried the, "Wow, your Anais Nin quote about refusing to be the leader, or the one about the flower, really tells me alot about you, because of the way that you colored the backround juxtapositoned against the text, I've never seen it done so well and so understandably before.".

So, what? It could only devolve to a .... Gee you sure are purty, (or even a nice tits, how come no face pic?) but I am sure you heard that all before.... or a long rambling missive that will be deleted unread. Or no answer.

So, everybody is crabbing on the thread, thought I would commisserate from my side, you see, I have empathy, but do not have sympathy.

Well, that's enough of this.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 8:46:36 AM

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Me three.

Ron, there is so much wrong with your posts here, I don't know where to start. Suffice it to say that I know lots of men who have had stalkers too. It isn't a matter of piss poor judgment. The real problem is that for about the first six months of a relationship, you aren't seeing the real person, you are only seeing their goodwill ambassador. That is why it is best to mOve slowly and maintain a healthy self esteem
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Can someone PM me here or n Fetl with the details of that other thread?

Me too please!

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 9:01:35 AM

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Women, whether they will admit it or not, are piss poor at singling the good guys out from the wanks, they dont want to be lied to, but they most often end up with the silver tongued liars and conmen.

They; despite their best efforts; are snatched up by decent guys by pure accident and folly, if ever they are, and not by thier own disgression.

??? !!!!! !

Not sure where youre going with that one Ron -

The stalker I had problems with many years ago, was someone that I WASNT in a relationship with. Never was, and never would of been. He was in fact, a fringe-friend of the father of my child. When baby's dada and I split up & he moved away - this "fringe-friend" of his made the decision all on his own that he was going to SAVE me and replace baby's dada. When I told him that wasnt going to happen, HE decided that yes it was, whether I liked it or not.

From my experience, most of this stalking, online or offline - stems from the woman REJECTING the man (or vice-versa) Not by making piss-poor decisions on whom they choose to partner with.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 9:03:25 AM

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Fast reply

I would like to remind everyone that the TOS and guidelines are still in effect. Don't make me take back my snicker doodle points.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 9:04:16 AM

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This is how about 98% of all decent threads, turn.

I have been watching this one, wondering when it would officially "turn".

lol, it "was" a great thread, while it lasted.

all good threads, must come to an end.

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 9:14:51 AM

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Women, whether they will admit it or not, are piss poor at singling the good guys out from the wanks, they dont want to be lied to, but they most often end up with the silver tongued liars and conmen.

They; despite their best efforts; are snatched up by decent guys by pure accident and folly, if ever they are, and not by thier own disgression.

.. I sense a little bitterness here..

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RE: The wonderful world of stalkers - - 4/17/2012 9:55:23 AM

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Cannie:

And there it is, how easy misunderstandings develop. Nowhere have I said, or even imputed that women are stupid.

Normally, I would say my piece and be done with it, but I would like to clear up one little misunderstanding on your part.

I did not say that you thought women were stupid, as you didn't state anywhere that you thought they were. You stated in your own words that women have "piss poor judgment." As I was careful to say clearly, the only thing I took exception with was your placement of that statement in a thread specifically about stalking. By doing so, you laid blame at the feet of the victim of the stalkers. That is a serious failure of logic on your part, and boils down to the "She was asking for it" defense.

I am fully aware that some women, as well as men, fall into the trap of being with abusers over and over. However, I saw no posts that suggested even the tiniest bit that the people discussing stalkers fell into that trap or were in any way trying to play the "I'm such a victim *boohoo!*" card. That being the case, I can only speculate as to the true motivations of your vitriol.

Take notes, guys.... That was some fatuous vocab at work. Still working on the unctuous, though! :)

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