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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/20/2012 8:55:39 PM   
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So the answer is NO... you cannot.

BTW...

One can only negotiate if both parties are willing and do so in good faith.




Do you look like a photo of yourself from 25 tears ago?......

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/20/2012 10:34:26 PM   
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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/20/2012 10:55:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		So it`s possible that some of today`s talibanis were among those Ronnie praised.....which is the point I`m sure you`re trying to miss.


Added...just heard today(on NPR) that Afghanistan has the highest infant mortality rate,10 to 15 an hour.All from treatable illnesses.......in case the baby protectors wanted to know.

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/20/2012 11:15:01 PM   
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That if you are going to post a picture and say "This Guy is a TERRORIST" you should at least be able to identify him and link to the source.


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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/20/2012 11:48:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well see.......Not everyone Ronnie called a freedom fighter (Contras) or the 'Moral Equivalent of Founding Fathers' was that.


And not all the taliban are terrorists.Or backward woman beating monsters.Tho many are.Less than in the states but let`s not compare our sores.The world is covered with nasty people.


You got the point of it tho,yes?


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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/21/2012 5:08:03 AM   
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I am saying...

That if you are going to post a picture and say "This Guy is a TERRORIST" you should at least be able to identify him and link to the source.


The Afghan mujahideen leaders invited to the White House hosted by President Reagan:

Maulvi Yunis Khalis, a warrior as well as a writer, was head of the Peshawar-based Afghan Mujahideen Alliance at the time and was, therefore, heading the delegation to the US. Others accompanying him on the visit were Prof Burhanuddin Rabbani, Prof Sebghatullah Mojadeddi, Pir Sayed Ahmad Gailani, Maulvi Mohammad Nabi Mohammadi and other lesser-ranked mujahideen leaders and commanders.

It was during this White House meeting that President Reagan referred to the Afghan mujahideen as freedom fighters. He remarked that the Afghan mujahideen leaders were equivalent of the great Americans who founded and liberated America. After this meeting, the US assistance to the Afghan mujahideen was increased to enable them to put up a better fight against the Soviet occupying forces in Afghanistan.

Maulvi Yunis Khalis, who died some years ago, was fond of dying his beard with henna. He had a peculiar sense of humour. He helped Osama bin Laden to live near Jalalabad after he was forced to leave the Sudan and seek refuge in Afghanistan in 1996. In fact, they became neighbours and also friends.

Khalis Baba, as he was called in his old age, also backed the Taliban. He also supported them after the US invasion and his son Anwarul Haq Mujahid is now a commander of the Taliban fighting the American and Nato forces.

So a man who visited the White House and thanked President Reagan and the US for supporting the Afghan jehad ended up in the Taliban camp and befriended bin Laden.

As for Haqqani, he was always a Talib and wasted no time to join the Taliban when they emerged in 1994 to fight the mujahideen. He and his family is still loyal to the Taliban leader Mulla Muhammad Omar and now poses a major threat to the US-led Nato forces in Afghanistan.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=70175&Cat=7

Hekmatyar was invited, but refused to meet Reagan.

I'm glad that's settled.

Busted.



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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/21/2012 6:30:33 AM   
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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/21/2012 11:04:36 AM   
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Hekmatyar was invited, but refused to meet Reagan.

I'm glad that's settled.

Busted.




Hardly an endorsement of Reagan if even Hekmatyar refused to meet him. he did make amends at some stage though, as Hekmatyar did have a well publicised meeting with the CIA`s deputy, Richard Kerr

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/21/2012 11:10:01 AM   
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Hardly an endorsement of Reagan if even Hekmatyar refused to meet him.

I would have seen that as a positive rather than a negative considering what Hekmatyar stood for.

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/21/2012 11:31:22 AM   
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Hardly an endorsement of Reagan if even Hekmatyar refused to meet him. he did make amends at some stage though, as Hekmatyar did have a well publicised meeting with the CIA`s deputy, Richard Kerr

I would have seen that as a positive rather than a negative considering what Hekmatyar stood for.


Did you miss the fact he was invited ? Ergo, if he had wanted to go he could have been there.

I am surprised you didnt spot that.

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/21/2012 11:42:29 AM   
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Hardly an endorsement of Reagan if even Hekmatyar refused to meet him. he did make amends at some stage though, as Hekmatyar did have a well publicised meeting with the CIA`s deputy, Richard Kerr

I would have seen that as a positive rather than a negative considering what Hekmatyar stood for.

Did you miss the fact he was invited ? Ergo, if he had wanted to go he could have been there.

I am surprised you didnt spot that.

Didn't fully read Mystery's post but the point was that Hekmatyar refusing to meet the Ronald was probably more a positive reflection rather than a negative. He was pro-Iranian so that may have been a factor...

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/21/2012 9:38:30 PM   
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Didn't fully read Mystery's post


Lot of that going around.

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/23/2012 8:48:01 AM   
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And the Peanut Gallery goes silent...




It took five pages for this?

Anyway... I'm not 24/7...most of the time real life is way more fun.

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RE: Taliban supporter in U.S.: 'Moral Equivalent of Fou... - 4/23/2012 9:11:06 AM   
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