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What is wrong with some people? - 4/23/2012 9:26:33 PM   
TheBanshee


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Status: offline 		I read this story and I can't believe a teacher would do something like this.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/virginia-teacher-arrested-allegedly-firing-blanks-students-164758793.html
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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/23/2012 10:23:46 PM   
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Point two: Borrowed the gun from another department of the school? I thought guns were not allowed on campus. Is this an oversight or the lack of it?

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 12:39:45 AM   
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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 2:34:56 AM   
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Un. Fucking. Believable.

Point two: Borrowed the gun from another department of the school? I thought guns were not allowed on campus. Is this an oversight or the lack of it?


It was a starter pistol used in track meets, not a real gun... It was extremely stupid none the less.

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 6:07:32 AM   
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view him in the introduce your self section??



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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 6:21:53 AM   
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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 7:05:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		It would be interesting to hear what his motivation was. Perhaps he might have had a bit of an episode. I'm surprised more teachers don't go batshit insane.

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 12:13:40 PM   
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It would be interesting to hear what his motivation was. Perhaps he might have had a bit of an episode. I'm surprised more teachers don't go batshit insane.

exactly my question. what was he thinking? i'm sure it made sense to him at the time. doesn't sound like a freak out incident.

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 12:42:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I expect had he been a lousy shot or his elbow got bumped somehow he could have put one of the kids eyes out or done some other type of serious damage.. I guess some people dont think that was a big deal.. someone did tho cuz it warrants multiple class 6 felony charges.. I guess even 60 year old teachers can learn a few things..

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 2:06:31 PM   
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Un. Fucking. Believable.

Point two: Borrowed the gun from another department of the school? I thought guns were not allowed on campus. Is this an oversight or the lack of it?


It was a starter pistol used in track meets, not a real gun... It was extremely stupid none the less.

I know. Do you suppose it Ok to take a starter pistol to school? Or a cap pistol? Or a water pistol? Or a cigarette lighter that only looks like a pistol? Or that a foot race cannot be started using a whistle?

I mean... thanks.

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 6:03:33 PM   
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People are stupid until proven otherwise. Just because you have a degree, doesn't always make you smart. It just means you knew how to pass.


Thank GAWD I never made it past high school!

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/24/2012 10:51:35 PM   
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I read this story and I can't believe a teacher would do something like this.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/virginia-teacher-arrested-allegedly-firing-blanks-students-164758793.html


They must have failed their welding test.

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 4:38:26 AM   
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I expect had he been a lousy shot or his elbow got bumped somehow he could have put one of the kids eyes out or done some other type of serious damage.. I guess some people dont think that was a big deal.. someone did tho cuz it warrants multiple class 6 felony charges.. I guess even 60 year old teachers can learn a few things..



It wasn't a real gun. It was a starters pistol like the ones used to start races. No bullets involved.

That said, I think the guy is an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to teach.

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 5:08:17 AM   
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I expect had he been a lousy shot or his elbow got bumped somehow he could have put one of the kids eyes out or done some other type of serious damage.. I guess some people dont think that was a big deal.. someone did tho cuz it warrants multiple class 6 felony charges.. I guess even 60 year old teachers can learn a few things..


It wasn't a real gun. It was a starters pistol like the ones used to start races. No bullets involved.

That said, I think the guy is an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to teach.

The article said it was a blank firing gun which i took to mean it fired blank bullets.. since that is what it is called.. they should call it something else then.. If it is simply sound and not firing anything then at least the kids werent in actual danger.. If he had an episode, he should have found a different way to vent..

Interesting that even if it doesnt fire anything, the act of using it warrants felony charges.. But there are a lot of things that you can be charged with a felony for even tho they dont seem like a big thing.. Of course unless you have studied law for a gazillion years, most people dont know these things until they wind up in the stew..

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 6:21:58 AM   
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The article said it was a blank firing gun which i took to mean it fired blank bullets.. since that is what it is called.. they should call it something else then.. If it is simply sound and not firing anything then at least the kids werent in actual danger.. If he had an episode, he should have found a different way to vent..

I meant an episode as in being a few pennies short of a pound, a few cents short of a dollar... I just thought that if he was in semi-possession of even basic rational faculties, he would have known that he was instantly destroying his career and possibly facing real jail time. Its just speculation of course so I hope his motivation comes out eventually.


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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 7:06:38 AM   
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I meant an episode as in being a few pennies short of a pound, a few cents short of a dollar... I just thought that if he was in semi-possession of even basic rational faculties, he would have known that he was instantly destroying his career and possibly facing real jail time. Its just speculation of course so I hope his motivation comes out eventually.

he is 60 yo... maybe early on set dementia?

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 7:55:32 AM   
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The article said it was a blank firing gun which i took to mean it fired blank bullets..

There are no such thing as "blank bullets". Bullets are projectiles, blank rounds have no projectiles.

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since that is what it is called.. they should call it something else then..

Some stories got it right and called it a starter pistol and some didn't. Reporters/editors are not immune from ignorance and basic firearms knowledge is something that many people possess. Judging by news stories I see, the press' knowledge doesn't appear to be any higher than the general public's.


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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 8:49:50 AM   
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Some stories got it right and called it a starter pistol and some didn't. Reporters/editors are not immune from ignorance and basic firearms knowledge is something that many people possess. Judging by news stories I see, the press' knowledge doesn't appear to be any higher than the general public's.

when they said a blank firing gun, it sounded like the prop type of guns used by actors in movies etc.. which still fire bullets but they are dummy bullets which are sometimes called blanks.. and yes, they should have said it was a starter pistol..
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2184/what-happens-when-a-gun-fires-blanks

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 12:23:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: stef
Some stories got it right and called it a starter pistol and some didn't. Reporters/editors are not immune from ignorance and basic firearms knowledge is something that many people possess. Judging by news stories I see, the press' knowledge doesn't appear to be any higher than the general public's.

when they said a blank firing gun, it sounded like the prop type of guns used by actors in movies etc.. which still fire bullets but they are dummy bullets which are sometimes called blanks.. and yes, they should have said it was a starter pistol..
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2184/what-happens-when-a-gun-fires-blanks


Stef, please allow me this one...

Again, no such thing as blank bullets. Prop guns do not fire or send any projectile - that would be very dangerous! Any description, including "starter pistol" or blanks means no projectiles, period.

You ran with the ignorance of the article's author and expanded on it based on being misinformed.

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RE: What is wrong with some people? - 4/25/2012 2:41:52 PM   
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when they said a blank firing gun, it sounded like the prop type of guns used by actors in movies etc.. which still fire bullets but they are dummy bullets which are sometimes called blanks..

Prop guns do not fire "dummy bullets which are sometimes called blanks." They fire no projectiles whatsoever. The dummy rounds in the link you posted are empty cartridges (no primer or powder) with a bullet crimped into the case in order to look like a real round. They CANNOT be fired as there is nothing in the cartridge to propel the bullet. These are never called blanks.

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