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THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:03:26 AM   
chatterbox24


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Status: offline 		I saw this online and thought it was a beautiful and wanted to share it.

I am a dominant man. I am just that.

I am not dominant because of any superiority on my part.

Not because I feel I am more intelligent, or wiser.

I am not dominant because of the strength or mass of my body.

I am not, nor would I want to be dominant with all women.

Yet to you, I am Master.

I am your Master only after earning your trust and I embrace your
submissiveness.

I have looked into your heart and mind and clearly see your desires and passions.

You have thrown away your fears and inhibitions.

You tell me of the needs of your heart and body.

You have given me total access to your soul, and I accept the responsibility and honor.

You are a woman. You are not weak or inferior because of it.

You are a treasure to be cherished. We are not equal.

I have the strength of body and mind and the instinctive need to protect, possess, defend and provide for you.

You are a woman and instinctively stronger of will and heart.

Your belief in me gives me courage and direction.

Your strength disperses my doubt.

Your needs and desires encourage and give purpose to my efforts.

We are not equal. We are halves of a whole.

We compliment each other and make each other complete.

My desire to dominate you is instinctive.

It is not to degrade you nor is it degrading to you because you are secure in being totally feminine.

We each recognize and accept our worth, and our need for someone to trust and fulfill our needs.

You are sure, strong and proud in your womanhood.

You do not submit as acceptance of inferiority, but from strength and passion.

You expect a man to stand strong and be a man.

You desire and flourish in the strength and control of a man.

In return you present control of your body, unqualified trust and honesty,

and the faithfulness of your heart. You submit because I have earned your trust.

Because I have opened my heart and soul to you.

Because I have listened to your words with my ears and heart and have learned to anticipate your needs and emotions.

And because I have proved worthy in your eyes, you have given me the only true treasure of life: you have given me dominance over you.

What you give is not abnormal, but pure, natural and the rarest gift a woman could give a man.

You have given me complete and unshakable assurance of your commitment to me.

Your submissiveness is a magnificent gift and sacred responsibility.

I accept this from you with humility and joy.

I understand the rarity and purity of this gift.

I recognize it is your body and soul, your heart and mind.

I dominate you only because you have allowed it.

I dominate only because you have allowed me to and when I see your body kneel before me, in my mind and heart you are raised above all other women, and all the treasures of the earth.

What you give freely can not in reality be bought.

~ Author Unknown ~

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:11:04 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		It is very M/f, gender specific, romance novelish.

I can understand why it may appeal to a certain audience, regardless of it's fictional base.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:15:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I knew it wouldnt appeal to everyone, I think its extremely rare a relationship such as this, but Id like to think it exists.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:23:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

It is very M/f, gender specific, romance novelish.

I can understand why it may appeal to a certain audience, regardless of it's fictional base.


Yup, fluffy.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:27:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, I think if it toned down the whole concept of natural order and submission is some sort of sacred gift, you can certainly find quite a few good examples.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:41:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Oh, I think if it toned down the whole concept of natural order and submission is some sort of sacred gift, you can certainly find quite a few good examples.


There's a few in there. But, there's also some unrealistic expectations, touting inequality and contradiction.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:55:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		When I read it I see a Man telling strong woman to not be ashamed of her submission. Majority of american women are raised and taught "to wear the pants" "be independent" "be strong" and somewhere its came to pass its weak to be just feminine, to want to serve, allow the man to be dominan, make the decisions. Its just my opinion but I really think theres alot of joy and happiness to it. Of course it depends on who the man is, if he is worthy of it in your eyes. If you love him, the real kind of love, there is nothing like it.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 9:57:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey chatterbox,

If that's a perfect, or nearly perfect, description of the kind of dominant man you're after, then that's lovely.

I have to admit that I was sick a little in my mouth when I read it though the first time.

In fairness, sure I subscribe to a lot of the ideas contained with in it - but fuck me - I still can't stop snarky me from bellowing "what sort of pansy assed dom would write shit like that?"

So, supressing my gag reflex, I read it again and this is my honest reaction.. bear in mind it's just my personal reaction, and isn't meant either to be a judgement on the sort of chap who'd write prose like this, or the sort of chapess who'd be affected by such prose...

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You are a woman. You are not weak or inferior because of it.

You are a treasure to be cherished. We are not equal.

I have the strength of body and mind and the instinctive need to protect, possess, defend and provide for you.

You are a woman and instinctively stronger of will and heart


Meh... seems a teensy bit gender biased for my liking.

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Your belief in me gives me courage and direction.


Nah, the kind of woman I'm after would expect me to have courage and direction irrespective of her belief in me.

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You expect a man to stand strong and be a man.

You desire and flourish in the strength and control of a man


What the fuck? What the blazes does "be a man" mean?

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I accept this from you with humility and joy.


Oh god... you can imagine the author weeping a little as he typed that bit out.

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What you give freely can not in reality be bought.


Now that's just fucking gibberish.

< Message edited by crazyml -- 4/27/2012 9:58:39 AM >

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:02:32 AM   
chatterbox24


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Status: offline 		Lol your funny. Yes its a lil flowery for sure. But Id like to think of it has an unspoken thing a really strong man doesnt say outloud but thats how he feels.

He thinks it has he pulls you across the room like tarzan..........LMAO............hands you some gum for your breath now.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:12:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		This was written by Michael P.  He was answering a question in one of CompuServe's adult forums back in February 1994 about what dominance meant to him.  He used to fight web sites that quoted him without mentioning his name but seems to have given up on that a long time ago. 

Over the years people have changed the quote to suit themselves and make it appear it's their own original writing.  Several dominants on Collarme use the quote as their profile.  I knew one.  Found out the lady he was seeing was attracted to him by his great writing ability.  She was shocked when I pointed out he'd plagarized his profile. 

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:20:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


I am not dominant because of any superiority on my part.



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I have looked into your heart and mind and clearly see your desires and passions.
Unless you're Carnak the Magnificent.....this isn't possible.

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You have thrown away your fears and inhibitions.
Just because you've become the submissive half of relationship doesn't mean that a switch gets thrown and this magically happens. You will ALWAYS have fears. It's a natural part of life:



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You are a treasure to be cherished. We are not equal.
The bolded part above says you're not superior. If we're not equal, then someone has to be superior. But, I disagree....both partners are equal parts even in a D/s relationship.

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I have the strength of body and mind and the instinctive need to protect, possess, defend and provide for you.
Maybe. But most couples need to have both people working. And what happens if you can't physically defend me? Does that mean you're no longer dominant?

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You are a woman and instinctively stronger of will and heart.
That's like saying it's a flower, so it must be a rose.



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We are not equal. We are halves of a whole.
Again, with the "not equal" crap.



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It is not to degrade you nor is it degrading to you because you are secure in being totally feminine.
What does being "totally feminine" have to do with submission?


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You do not submit as acceptance of inferiority, but from strength and passion.
Okay, well you've already stated TWICE that they're not equal, so by that definition someone has to be inferior.

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You expect a man to stand strong and be a man.
No, I only hope to have that in a partner. I don't expect it out of every man.

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You desire and flourish in the strength and control of a man.
I'm not some lost little flower that needs a man to run my life. My submission is specific to one because of WHO he is, not because he's "a man".

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In return you present control of your body, unqualified trust and honesty
All trust is qualified. It's based on trust worthy behavior. When behavior is not trustworthy, then trust is removed.

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And because I have proved worthy in your eyes, you have given me the only true treasure of life: you have given me dominance over you.
That's the only true treasure in life? Really?


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I understand the rarity and purity of this gift.
Gifts come with no expectations of anything in return. Submissives expect dominance in exchange for submissionb, so therefore it is not a gift.


So, yeah, I see a lot unrealistic fluff in this.




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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:29:49 AM   
chatterbox24


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Status: offline 		ITs cool. I just really liked the saying. When i see "provide" I dont necesarily see financially. ANd when I see strong man, I dont see any man, just one.
Its funny how people see things so differently, but interesting too.

This is obviously geared toward a man and woman relationship, seems based on love so its definitely not going to be everyones cup of tea in BDSM.

To me but Im heterosexual, I find submission totally feminine, the most feminine of qualities.

I have had loads of sex in my lifetime but submitted only once. Im assertive almost aggressive so that is a true gift that I got to experience a part of my femininity I didnt know existed. Its been exclusive and rare. I enjoyed being a woman and a woman alone.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:32:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is what Michael P said about what he'd written several years after it first appeared in the CompuServe forums.

This essay was written in February 1994 and posted to the Compuserve Human Sexuality/Variations II© message board then later into the library with the copyright after I was asked what my personal perceptions and thoughts on dominance were. It started quite a ruckus even though I had a lengthy and I thought clear preamble explaining that it was gender specific and only related to me. It was and is a personal statement and not intended to be a Dominant Manifesto or pontification. There were roughly 1500 messages on that thread before it died out. Had I known my clearly stated personal perceptions were somehow open to dissection and critique I probably would have refrained from posting it. In the six years these words have been on Compuserve© they have been reprinted at least 12 times that I know of. Some were with my copyright and authorship acknowledged, some without and others with another person claiming authorship. On one occasion a Gor related site refused to accept my claim so I had to sic Compuserve© on them and their ISP. When faced with a legal date stamp and the Bern Convention copyright and the clauses pertaining to original intellectual works published on the net they wisely corrected the situation.

Anyone who thinks these words say what they feel can certainly use them. Do keep in mind that the internet, as large as it is, isn't a place so large that ideas get lost. Quite the opposite is true. If you use the thoughts of another then say they are those of another, like you'd present a poem or a quote. A gift as well as the seriousness and sanctity of D/s are cheapened with lies. It certainly shows what the real content of character is if words given as coming from the heart are seen later as coming from deceit.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:34:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you peppermint. I knew "Author Unknown" was bogus, but I couldn't recall who the author was. Great post.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:35:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pardon me while I stop and inject some insulin before all this suagr causes me (yes, I am diabetic) to go into a coma.

Oside was so nice in her use of the word "fluffy" All I see is a man playing to what he thinks a woman would want to hear.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:38:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for posting this OP. sure, it's flowery - this is what the Oprah version would be like if BDSM was mainstream.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:38:42 AM   
chatterbox24


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Status: offline 		The site I copied this insight from said Author unknown, so I had no idea who wrote it and I had no idea it was so controversial. I just thought it was a really great reflection of a thought, I found appealing. SOmething I couldnt put into to words and someone else did for me.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:41:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

thanks for posting this OP. sure, it's flowery - this is what the Oprah version would be like if BDSM was mainstream.


Actually, I would imagine that Oprah would be quite disgusted at the gender bias.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:42:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
The site I copied this insight from said Author unknown, so I had no idea who wrote it and I had no idea it was so controversial. I just thought it was a really great reflection of a thought, I found appealing. SOmething I couldnt put into to words and someone else did for me.

I didn't think you were lying or anything like that, chatterbox. There are all kinds of "Anonymous" versions of this floating around the kinky net. I'm glad you found something you liked enough to share.

One thing you might consider: perhaps you find this prose-poem about romantic dominance so attractive because your experiences with real-world dominance can be so frustrating.

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RE: THe Dominant Man - 4/27/2012 10:57:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Which causes me to wonder, not specifically in this case as I've no idea...........but about unrealistic expectations in relationships. And if SOME people turn to power exchange relationships thinking that there are better people, better relationships to be had, simply because their expectations of vanilla relationships were unrealistic and never met.

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