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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/6/2012 4:48:18 PM   
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Whats the point of doing that ? the government is just going to come up way short anyhow, then borrow to put us more into debt thus causing the most oppressive tax there is, inflation. I actually get out of as much as I can so I can buy a new truck every year. I sleep fine at night knowing all too well some other schmuck is coughin it up on the front end.


Wow ... Imagine a country full of deadbeats who still get to bitch about entitlements.
That's a mighty impressive vision ya got there.


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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/6/2012 5:10:10 PM   
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Whats the point of doing that ? the government is just going to come up way short anyhow, then borrow to put us more into debt thus causing the most oppressive tax there is, inflation. I actually get out of as much as I can so I can buy a new truck every year. I sleep fine at night knowing all too well some other schmuck is coughin it up on the front end.


Wow ... Imagine a country full of deadbeats who still get to bitch about entitlements.
That's a mighty impressive vision ya got there.



Yeah, isn't it nice to know everyone has a sense of responsibility? Isn't that supposed to be a conservative Republican ideal? Responsibility? Coughs very quietly....

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/6/2012 8:09:36 PM   
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I saw someone reference the greater good of the Republican agenda. I'd be interested in hearing from those who plan on voting republican what they think the agenda is and what proposals have been made to support it. I admit to not believeing it is for the greatergood but if you have the evidence I'd change my mind


I think it would mainly depend upon the values of the individual voter. Some might be more law and order types, while others might vote in terms of social and cultural issues. Some might be more traditional, pining for the "good old days."

They might see Democrats as soft on crime, as well as on national security issues. Then there's immigration, which has been another hot button issue for a lot of people lately.

On economic issues, the Democrats haven't really offered much of an alternative, not since Clinton signed NAFTA into law. The only real difference now is on social and cultural issues, which is where the real political divide seems to exist these days.

EDIT: Another factor might also relate to whether someone's livelihood is dependent upon the military-industrial complex. Those people might vote Republican out of self-interest, since Republicans are perceived as more hawkish and more supportive of defense spending.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/6/2012 9:24:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		If ya want to talk about deadbeats, go to an OWS rally and talk to some of the entitlement mentality assholes, or go visit your congressman. As for me personally, I don't have a problem with payin my fair share but I don't like payin for some government asshole to fuck around all over the globe sittin around in a hot tub squandering my money. I'd rather buy myself a truck because in the long run it won't really matter who paid what or how much. I've literally worked my balls off to get where I'm at and I don't need the freakin government to wipe my ass. The whole system is broken and unsustainable. What are you whinny ass fucks guna do when a loaf of bread cost 7 to 10 bucks ? I know, you'll blame it on George Bush and all the rest of those meany republicans. Some people might wake up and figure it out but I'm afraid too many will be looking for Uncle Sam to come along and shovel burgers down their throats. Good luck with that.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/6/2012 9:48:08 PM   
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If ya want to talk about deadbeats, go to an OWS rally and talk to some of the entitlement mentality assholes, or go visit your congressman.


You couldn't have your head further up your ass... perhaps you don't follow much on the topic around here. I know literally hundreds. And despite all the examples your dirtbag new sources put on the screen, for every one of them, there are 3 or 4 people who work and PAY THEIR DUES.
And contrary to your delusion. MOST of the people in the movement aren't 'camping out'. If there were you would have a small city's worth in manhattan alone.
The funny thing is you don't SEE what happens when your beloved fox 'news professionals' arrive. They 'create' a preconceived story. Last fall when halloween was rolling around, the reporter here in Boston they describe 'hard hitting' and 'gets to the bottom' wanted to prove there were undesirables. I was at the media tent dropping off a server I built for them and saw the whole thing go down... she would walk up to someone and THE SECOND she could glean they were cogent and spoke well she broke off traveled about 10 feet and started questioning another same thing over and over again. And she must've talked to more than 2 dozen people before she found someone who gave her her "Goofey Piece".
Yeah tell me all about how 'hard' ya work. I put in my 50 hours pal. But the difference between you and I is I just do the right thing in the end and don't make excuses for why I am a non-contributor and a tax cheat.
Whatever, OWS isn't why America is fucked up. It's fucked up because people don't want to pay their way.


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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/6/2012 10:15:37 PM   
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If ya want to talk about deadbeats, go to an OWS rally and talk to some of the entitlement mentality assholes, or go visit your congressman.


You couldn't have your head further up your ass... perhaps you don't follow much on the topic around here. I know literally hundreds. And despite all the examples your dirtbag new sources put on the screen, for every one of them, there are 3 or 4 people who work and PAY THEIR DUES.
And contrary to your delusion. MOST of the people in the movement aren't 'camping out'. If there were you would have a small city's worth in manhattan alone.
The funny thing is you don't SEE what happens when your beloved fox 'news professionals' arrive. They 'create' a preconceived story. Last fall when halloween was rolling around, the reporter here in Boston they describe 'hard hitting' and 'gets to the bottom' wanted to prove there were undesirables. I was at the media tent dropping off a server I built for them and saw the whole thing go down... she would walk up to someone and THE SECOND she could glean they were cogent and spoke well she broke off traveled about 10 feet and started questioning another same thing over and over again. And she must've talked to more than 2 dozen people before she found someone who gave her her "Goofey Piece".
Yeah tell me all about how 'hard' ya work. I put in my 50 hours pal. But the difference between you and I is I just do the right thing in the end and don't make excuses for why I am a non-contributor and a tax cheat.
Whatever, OWS isn't why America is fucked up. It's fucked up because people don't want to pay their way.




Did I imply I was a tax cheat ? Sorry about that but I'm not. There are 100 % legal ways to use the thousands of pages tax code to work the stupid freakin system. You want I recommend a good accountant ? As far as I'm concerned, less tax is better.

The reality of all this is while crooked politicians, bankers like the bail out recipients of your hard earned tax money the Fed and other elites, looters like the guy in the hot tub and soooooooo many freakin others, and many a welfare moocher who sponge off the government dole, democrats and republicans got people like us with a seemingly different point of view at each others throats. And while we continue cheer leading for these crooks that claim to be on *our* side of the isle, they're laughing all the way to the bank.

I've read the demands of OWS and some of them I'm in 100% agreement. Some of them have no basis in reality. As for some of the rest of my post you didn't quote, I think that the whole freakin world is headed for a reality check but I would love to be wrong on that.

PS edited to add, though I would agree with Shaun Hannity's editorial viewpoint in general, if he deliberately picked that inept OWS guy to interview as opposed to an intelligent guy to use for his own grandstanding, then I would have to reluctantly say he was a mouthy freakin sneaky little bastard. I'm not brainwashed by any news network, though I find FOX to be less boring than most of the others.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 6:21:50 AM   
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They have not been talking about more tax cuts for the small minority of people who might make a real impact on the deficit if they were paying a reasonable percentage of their income, then?


I know what you're referring to. And I also know that the Paul Ryan plan has other parts to it. While the top tax rate is dropped to 25%, it is offset by closing loopholes. The tax reform part of the bill is revenue neutral, meaning it doesn't raise or lower revenues from current levels.

But, as is not truly surprising to me, you may continue to look simply at one particular line that fits your argument and concentrate on that. It's a classic move by one side to attempt to score political points against the other side. Note, too, that the pronouns, "one" and "other" will remain non-specific because the action is not specific to one party and not the other.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 6:34:44 AM   
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They have not been talking about more tax cuts for the small minority of people who might make a real impact on the deficit if they were paying a reasonable percentage of their income, then?


I know what you're referring to. And I also know that the Paul Ryan plan has other parts to it. While the top tax rate is dropped to 25%, it is offset by closing loopholes. The tax reform part of the bill is revenue neutral, meaning it doesn't raise or lower revenues from current levels.

But, as is not truly surprising to me, you may continue to look simply at one particular line that fits your argument and concentrate on that. It's a classic move by one side to attempt to score political points against the other side. Note, too, that the pronouns, "one" and "other" will remain non-specific because the action is not specific to one party and not the other.

what loopholes? We know republicans are against changing carried interest rues, raising cap gains, taxing diveidends as striaght income so what loopholes are they for closing??? what they mean is middle class taxhike to make it up

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 9:02:08 AM   
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I see even the right-wingers are unable to answer your question.

I think your point has been successfully made, but we can still continue for amusement



Ok.....I'll bite. In the past, particularly under Reagan and before that JFK, when tax rates were lowered economic activity increased to the point where business was making more and there were more jobs thus more tax payers, the government took in more money. It also should force government to make cuts and spend less, supposedly, but we all know government is addicted to squandering our money. It didn't seem to workout too well under big spending republican Bush 2.

Incorrect. When Reagan first took office, he cut taxes way down, almost as low as they are now. What happened was an recession, not on the scale it is today, but it happened. He then had to raise taxes 11 times in 8 years, up to 50% for the highest earners.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 9:14:22 AM   
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I see even the right-wingers are unable to answer your question.

I think your point has been successfully made, but we can still continue for amusement



Ok.....I'll bite. In the past, particularly under Reagan and before that JFK, when tax rates were lowered economic activity increased to the point where business was making more and there were more jobs thus more tax payers, the government took in more money. It also should force government to make cuts and spend less, supposedly, but we all know government is addicted to squandering our money. It didn't seem to workout too well under big spending republican Bush 2.

Incorrect. When Reagan first took office, he cut taxes way down, almost as low as they are now. What happened was an recession, not on the scale it is today, but it happened. He then had to raise taxes 11 times in 8 years, up to 50% for the highest earners.



I think you're wrong about that. We were already in an economic downturn when Reagan took over from Carter. We had high priced gas and all the rest of it. As I recall it was all up hill from there.



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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 9:35:02 AM   
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i really am looking for an explanation of their proposed policies and how it relates to stated goals.

Since 2009 I've been looking for an explanation of the Democratic Senate's refusal to even proffer a Federal Budget proposal, nevermind call for a vote.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 9:43:21 AM   
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I see even the right-wingers are unable to answer your question.

I think your point has been successfully made, but we can still continue for amusement



Ok.....I'll bite. In the past, particularly under Reagan and before that JFK, when tax rates were lowered economic activity increased to the point where business was making more and there were more jobs thus more tax payers, the government took in more money. It also should force government to make cuts and spend less, supposedly, but we all know government is addicted to squandering our money. It didn't seem to workout too well under big spending republican Bush 2.

Incorrect. When Reagan first took office, he cut taxes way down, almost as low as they are now. What happened was an recession, not on the scale it is today, but it happened. He then had to raise taxes 11 times in 8 years, up to 50% for the highest earners.



I think you're wrong about that. We were already in an economic downturn when Reagan took over from Carter. We had high priced gas and all the rest of it. As I recall it was all up hill from there.



I don't think he's wrong about that, I know he is. We had been in an economic recession for at least a year prior to when Reagan took over from Carter. Gas was not only high priced but in such short supply as well that the Feds instituted odd-n-even license plate number refueling days. Inflation was 20% +. And let's not forget that Reagan never had a Republican House and Senate to "rubber stamp" his policies at any time during his two terms.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 9:52:33 AM   
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I see even the right-wingers are unable to answer your question.

I think your point has been successfully made, but we can still continue for amusement



Ok.....I'll bite. In the past, particularly under Reagan and before that JFK, when tax rates were lowered economic activity increased to the point where business was making more and there were more jobs thus more tax payers, the government took in more money. It also should force government to make cuts and spend less, supposedly, but we all know government is addicted to squandering our money. It didn't seem to workout too well under big spending republican Bush 2.

Incorrect. When Reagan first took office, he cut taxes way down, almost as low as they are now. What happened was an recession, not on the scale it is today, but it happened. He then had to raise taxes 11 times in 8 years, up to 50% for the highest earners.



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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 10:19:10 AM   
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I know what you're referring to. And I also know that the Paul Ryan plan has other parts to it. While the top tax rate is dropped to 25%, it is offset by closing loopholes.


Could you tell me which loopholes he closes to compensate for the complete elimination of all taxes on all unearned income, and on all inherited income?

(I use the term "unearned", because that's the IRS term for income from dividends and capital gains, not as some kind of a smear on the people who receive them.)

Just pointing out that, if you, say, declare that 90% of Mitt Romney's income is now completely exempt from taxes, and declare that the remaining 10% is taxed at 25%, then it's real hard to "make up for it by closing loopholes".

And "Revenue neutral" simply means that "for every dollar we cut Mitt Romney's taxes, we raise somebody's taxes a dollar".

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 10:25:16 AM   
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I think you're wrong about that. We were already in an economic downturn when Reagan took over from Carter. We had high priced gas and all the rest of it. As I recall it was all up hill from there.




Didn't look at the data I assembled for you, did you?

Reagan took office halfway through FY81.

Federal revenues went down in 82. They went down even more in 83.

They started going back up in 84, and by 86 they were back to where they were when he took office.

(Not "back to what they would have been, if nothing had changed", but "back so that they weren't at least lower than when he took office.")

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 10:41:36 AM   
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When Reagan took over we had 6% unemployment and 11% inflation. Carter had made his infamous malaise speach and the economy was in a shamble, nearly as bad as it is now. In four years Reagan had things running smooth enough to win by a landside.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html

Im 1980 (election year) Unemployment was 7.1%.

2 years later, it was 9.7%

In 1984 (the year he won relection, it was 7.4%.

I daresay that the reason he won election wasn't the unemployment rate.

Lending rates maybe?


http://www.wsjprimerate.us/wall_street_journal_prime_rate_history.htm

By late October of 1980, the prime rate was 14.5%

By late Sept of 84, it was 12.5% after a peak of over 20.

Doesn't look like that was it either.

The Economy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

Probably not, we had not one but TWO recessions during Reagan's first term.

Maybe the reason Reagan won by a landslide in '84 is that the Democrats ran someone against him who was an idiot.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 10:43:45 AM   
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I don't think he's wrong about that, I know he is. We had been in an economic recession for at least a year prior to when Reagan took over from Carter. Gas was not only high priced but in such short supply as well that the Feds instituted odd-n-even license plate number refueling days. Inflation was 20% +. And let's not forget that Reagan never had a Republican House and Senate to "rubber stamp" his policies at any time during his two terms.


Then you're ignoring reality.

(Or at least ignoring parts of it. Yes, when Reagan took office, inflation and unemployment were high. In fact, the high inflation and unemployment were the issues Reagan ran on, to get elected. But, federal revenues were going up. The economic conditions (which had been going on for over a year) weren't pleasant, and the voters were (justifiably) ticked. But the economic conditions weren't causing federal revenues to go down. They were going up.)

Reagan took office halfway through FY81. Government revenues for FY81 were at an all-time high. (Which isn't all that unusual, since federal revenues almost always go up. It's rare for a year not to be an all-time high for federal revenues.)

Revenues went down for FY82 (which began in October of '81, 7 months after Reagan took office.) And they went down, again, for FY83. Down a total of 10%, from when he took office.

Link to the actual data on annual federal tax revenues.

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Now, as to the traditional attempt to claim that the evil Congress forced Reagan to spend more than he wanted, that's also untrue.

It's one of those things, though, where a quick chart says one thing, but the actual explanation is a lot more complicated. Rather than copy-and-pasting somebody else's explanation, or trying to explain it on my own, I'll provide a link to somebody who actually explains it very well, and it's a very short read.


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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 11:33:25 AM   
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i really am looking for an explanation of their proposed policies and how it relates to stated goals.

Since 2009 I've been looking for an explanation of the Democratic Senate's refusal to even proffer a Federal Budget proposal, nevermind call for a vote.

Except that all revenue bills must start in the House, as per the Constitution. The House has been controlled by the Republicans for the last 2 years. Nice try though.

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 12:21:55 PM   
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I see even the right-wingers are unable to answer your question.

I think your point has been successfully made, but we can still continue for amusement



Ok.....I'll bite. In the past, particularly under Reagan and before that JFK, when tax rates were lowered economic activity increased to the point where business was making more and there were more jobs thus more tax payers, the government took in more money. It also should force government to make cuts and spend less, supposedly, but we all know government is addicted to squandering our money. It didn't seem to workout too well under big spending republican Bush 2.

Incorrect. When Reagan first took office, he cut taxes way down, almost as low as they are now. What happened was an recession, not on the scale it is today, but it happened. He then had to raise taxes 11 times in 8 years, up to 50% for the highest earners.



I think you're wrong about that. We were already in an economic downturn when Reagan took over from Carter. We had high priced gas and all the rest of it. As I recall it was all up hill from there.



nah recession hit in 82 as a result of volkier taking on inflation. To claim reagan took on inflation would require he actually did something to limit the money supply. Tripling the national debt is hardly an anti inflationary policyVolker the man responsible for the taming inflation Actually we wer growing but inflation was an issue. Killing inflation caused the downturn in 82 and Ronald had nothingto do with it. If you think tripling the natioanl debt and setting in place the policies that tripled it again in the 90s is the mark odf succuss he has brilliant

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RE: The greater good of the Republican agenda - 5/7/2012 12:25:39 PM   
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When Reagan took over we had 6% unemployment and 11% inflation. Carter had made his infamous malaise speach and the economy was in a shamble, nearly as bad as it is now. In four years Reagan had things running smooth enough to win by a landside.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html

Im 1980 (election year) Unemployment was 7.1%.

2 years later, it was 9.7%

In 1984 (the year he won relection, it was 7.4%.

I daresay that the reason he won election wasn't the unemployment rate.

Lending rates maybe?


http://www.wsjprimerate.us/wall_street_journal_prime_rate_history.htm
By late October of 1980, the prime rate was 14.5%

By late Sept of 84, it was 12.5% after a peak of over 20.

Doesn't look like that was it either.

The Economy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

Probably not, we had not one but TWO recessions during Reagan's first term.

Maybe the reason Reagan won by a landslide in '84 is that the Democrats ran someone against him who was an idiot.

Yeah Mondale actually talked about the deficit...... and the need to pay for the goverment we want Clinton proved him right and a bnoom not based on debt followed Americans will always vot for the free money guy

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