What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city?

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Longerthanyou -> What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 7:56:28 AM)
From another thread I was turned on to eastern european D/s porn, and in doing my 'research', I noticed with wonderment that they lead a naked model on a leash apparently in the middle of an open city. They even screw her, with many guys, while leading her about, presumably in recognizable parks and overpasses places where the authorities would have clear proof of their kinky transgressions. I don't know what city they're in, but here's just one example of kinky public sex in a european city that maybe you recognize? Here's one on an eastern european transit bus and one more example crawling down a busy city street in the middle of the day. How do they get away with open public sex apparently in the middle of busy eastern european city without being arrested?

MissImmortalPain -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 8:29:49 AM)
I'll admit I didn't bother to click the links...I don't think I need to. Have you ever seen a hollywood movie set in say New York where people are shooting at each other? Do you unerstand that parts of different cities can be rented for such things? There is also the fact that laws differ country to country. So some things that can't be filmed in some places can in others.

frazzle -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 8:48:31 AM)
Its a porn film. it isnt real. or do you really think they filmed star wars in outer space!!!!

Ishtarr -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 9:59:57 AM)
Oh for fuck sakes... for those of you who bother to reply without checking out the links. These are NOT porno sets. Theses are in fact exactly the public places they show in the video, in broad daylight with a bunch of random strangers around. OP public nudity isn't illegal in a whole bunch of European and other countries around the world. The overly paranoid and prudish laws the USA features in this regard are the exception, not the rule. There are more countries than not where showing off a boob and such in public isn't commonly done because people have no interest in doing so. It doesn't have to be illegal to have people commonly behaving as if it is. Full blown public penetration is legal in at least 1 country that I know of. As such, filming such scene there just isn't the issue Americans imagine it being. You can also see that people in the street don't react the way to it that they would in the US In most cases, despite all the onlookers, they barely even draw a crowd. I do know that for the bus scenes, they often rent a private bus and fill them with actors to play the "random strangers" that way they can go further with penetration and such without risking children walking on the bus and without risking being kicked off (busses are private companies that can request you to leave). However, despite it begin a private rented bus, they are still really touring the actual city when shooting those scenes. So anything you see through the windows is real.

graceadieu -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 10:49:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain I'll admit I didn't bother to click the links...I don't think I need to. Have you ever seen a hollywood movie set in say New York where people are shooting at each other? Do you unerstand that parts of different cities can be rented for such things? There is also the fact that laws differ country to country. So some things that can't be filmed in some places can in others. This. If you pay enough money (probably not much in parts of Eastern Europe), you can rent out a city block or a park or whatever, shut it down, and hire a bunch of extras for $5 to walk around and be "random people on the street". I didn't click either, but I'm assuming they're reposts of the kink.com videos that use that premise. I wondered the same thing as the OP when I first saw them, but I think it's pretty obvious that that's what they're doing. Because none of the passerbys look surprised, and of course none of them are families. Which would be pretty unrealistic if it weren't a controlled area.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 10:53:57 AM)
They make films all the time, in all kinds of urban spaces. It's not difficult. OP, you watch a lot of porn, don't you? Which is cool, but remember IT IS A MOVIE.

Longerthanyou -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 1:24:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ishtarr These are NOT porno sets. Theses are in fact exactly the public places they show in the video, in broad daylight with a bunch of random strangers around. Based on the kids and old people around, I suspect these are truly in public places. Here's a whole bunch of them found just by searching for "public disgrace": http://www.jennastube.com/search/?q=public+disgrace&submit=Search I seriously doubt they rent the center of town and the parks - especially given the historically low budget of porn films. Even the bus scene (note I gave the wrong link in the OP ... here's a quick 1 minute example). For the bus, they might rent it and staff it with extras - but the city scenes are highly unlikely to be rented out as they are in the midst of parks, churches, and open squares. As you said, the laws must be much less puritanical than those in the USA - where such conduct would have you jailed, even if it were for a movie. As such, filming such scene there just isn't the issue Americans imagine it being. You can also see that people in the street don't react the way to it that they would in the US In most cases, despite all the onlookers, they barely even draw a crowd. I have noticed, after "researching" a few dozen of these, that the actual SEX is only with the cast - while the 'touching' (and lots of cellphone pictures) are done by the random crowds. Here are some examples from http://tubegals.com/search/?q=public+disgrace&submit=Search Blonde blowjob and fuck in bus Tied up and gagged babe posing in the streets Flexible redhead is bound and stripped naked in public Huge tits babe paraded through the streets Yoha gets ass fucked and covered in cum in public

FriendlyMuppet -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 3:02:03 PM)
Wait....Star Wars wasn't real???

Karmastic -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 3:27:35 PM)
these are obviously real scenes shot in public. hit and run baby! thanks OP - that gave me some ideas...heh heh.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 4:00:47 PM)
These look like they were shot in public spaces to me, but I think I agree with graceadieu that some of these shots look like they were done in a controlled area. I, personally, didn't see children passerbys in these scenes. If there were, then clearly, the standards for what children can see is different in these countries. It did seem that actual oral/vaginal sex (i.e., real male penis inside) was all in slightly more "private" spaces within the outdoors (I didn't see a bunch of people watching the actors have sex). Penetrative play with a dildo seems to fall under a different category, as that type of play seemed to occur with unsuspecting people (or extras) walking by. But the nudity, being bound in public, being led on a leash all seem to be occurring in public spaces (although it is impossible to tell if the area was controlled - even perhaps by signs warning people that a porn shoot was being filmed). I'm not sure what the privacy laws are in these countries, but do they have the right to film a passerby as the walk past, and not have to get a signed release from them? I'm not sure everyone would be happy to be in a porn film as a passerby, even in a situation like this (especially depending on what you do professionally) - so this is also making me think there had to at least be signs up somewhere letting people know what was going on and that they were given their tacit consent to be in the film if they remained present in the area. I don't know. Maybe they don't care. Truly hard to say.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 4:00:48 PM)
quote: As you said, the laws must be much less puritanical than those in the USA - where such conduct would have you jailed, even if it were for a movie. So you think they don't film porn anywhere in America? Or do you assume they get the chance to do it once and end up in jail?

kitkat105 -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 4:16:28 PM)
Those countries have very different nudity laws and are a lot more relaxed in regards to fetish porn.

ResidentSadist -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 4:21:57 PM)
The 'sex in public' niche is very popular and they film it in just about every country on Earth. It is not confined to or specifically more popular or legal in European countries. However, nudity and prostitution laws may be more relaxed and more popular in other countries than they are in the US. As to your question of how they get away with it, they do it on the sly just like the famous photographer Spencer Tunick did when he shot the photos and film for Naked Sates with hundreds of nude models in the US. Naked States is worth a look. Although it isn't porn, it is very beautiful.

Karmastic -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 5:31:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess These look like they were shot in public spaces to me, but I think I agree with graceadieu that some of these shots look like they were done in a controlled area. I, personally, didn't see children passerbys in these scenes. If there were, then clearly, the standards for what children can see is different in these countries. It did seem that actual oral/vaginal sex (i.e., real male penis inside) was all in slightly more "private" spaces within the outdoors (I didn't see a bunch of people watching the actors have sex). Penetrative play with a dildo seems to fall under a different category, as that type of play seemed to occur with unsuspecting people (or extras) walking by. But the nudity, being bound in public, being led on a leash all seem to be occurring in public spaces (although it is impossible to tell if the area was controlled - even perhaps by signs warning people that a porn shoot was being filmed). I'm not sure what the privacy laws are in these countries, but do they have the right to film a passerby as the walk past, and not have to get a signed release from them? I'm not sure everyone would be happy to be in a porn film as a passerby, even in a situation like this (especially depending on what you do professionally) - so this is also making me think there had to at least be signs up somewhere letting people know what was going on and that they were given their tacit consent to be in the film if they remained present in the area. I don't know. Maybe they don't care. Truly hard to say. i usually agree with you, but i really doubt they posted signs. this is hit and run shooting. get a shot, move on, before you get rousted by the coppers. and nudity is much more accepted elsewhere. the bus scene did seem extreme, but nothing a quick $20 to the driver couldn't handle. and did you notice, people were taking pictures.

MistressDarkArt -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 5:39:38 PM)
[8\|] If only they would put condoms on the real cocks as well as the fake ones.

GotSteel -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 5:39:45 PM)
It works because certain portions of Europe aren't made up of sex negative prudes like the US largly is. P.S. publicdisgrace also shoots at the folsoms street fair.

LadyConstanze -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 5:46:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: graceadieu This. If you pay enough money (probably not much in parts of Eastern Europe), you can rent out a city block or a park or whatever, shut it down, and hire a bunch of extras for $5 to walk around and be "random people on the street". Bless your concepts of currency and what prices are in Eastern Europe, last time I checked they weren't much lower than the rest of Europe...

Karmastic -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 5:55:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: graceadieu This. If you pay enough money (probably not much in parts of Eastern Europe), you can rent out a city block or a park or whatever, shut it down, and hire a bunch of extras for $5 to walk around and be "random people on the street". Bless your concepts of currency and what prices are in Eastern Europe, last time I checked they weren't much lower than the rest of Europe... psssst... i can get you a good deal on a Lada - my cousin knows someone.

strangedesire -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 5:57:34 PM)
It's my understanding that they film the tamer bits in public, and switch to private areas with "insider" passers-by for the raunchier sex scenes. It's porn - they aren't actually shooting scenes in the order they appear on film. And yes, it's easier to get away with this stuff in some parts of Europe, but I've definitely seen photos of people on leashes in downtown NYC. (Not to mention the famous "Naked Cowboy".) As long as you move fast and keep most of what you do within the letter of the law, it's not hard to get away with crazy public stunts. Longerthanyou, Public Disgrace is a Kink.com property. They're probably the single best-known BDSM porn makers in the country, and a lot of their performers have an online presence. You might want to google for blogs, rather than videos, if you're curious about what goes on behind the scenes. They are also big, big money, and probably perfectly capable of renting out the occasional city street.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: What is it about eastern european D/s that they can play with models in an open city? (5/10/2012 6:10:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Karmastic quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess These look like they were shot in public spaces to me, but I think I agree with graceadieu that some of these shots look like they were done in a controlled area. I, personally, didn't see children passerbys in these scenes. If there were, then clearly, the standards for what children can see is different in these countries. It did seem that actual oral/vaginal sex (i.e., real male penis inside) was all in slightly more "private" spaces within the outdoors (I didn't see a bunch of people watching the actors have sex). Penetrative play with a dildo seems to fall under a different category, as that type of play seemed to occur with unsuspecting people (or extras) walking by. But the nudity, being bound in public, being led on a leash all seem to be occurring in public spaces (although it is impossible to tell if the area was controlled - even perhaps by signs warning people that a porn shoot was being filmed). I'm not sure what the privacy laws are in these countries, but do they have the right to film a passerby as the walk past, and not have to get a signed release from them? I'm not sure everyone would be happy to be in a porn film as a passerby, even in a situation like this (especially depending on what you do professionally) - so this is also making me think there had to at least be signs up somewhere letting people know what was going on and that they were given their tacit consent to be in the film if they remained present in the area. I don't know. Maybe they don't care. Truly hard to say. i usually agree with you, but i really doubt they posted signs. this is hit and run shooting. get a shot, move on, before you get rousted by the coppers. and nudity is much more accepted elsewhere. the bus scene did seem extreme, but nothing a quick $20 to the driver couldn't handle. and did you notice, people were taking pictures. This is fair, but are there not any laws on capturing people's images and using them for profit without their consent? I thought even bystanders had to be aware they were in a film - and I would think that the fact that it was a porn film for distribution (and not just someone's private vacation video) would make a difference. I don't claim to know - I just would have thought there would be some rules about that. I also didn't see any children as bystanders (did I just not see them?) I find it really odd that you could be out in public in a large city and that there would just be no children at all. Something about that didn't ring true to me. Again, I could be wrong. Or maybe the rules about what children can see is different there. All I can say is that if you are filming in New York good luck with being in a public place here in the daytime and not having children in strollers as bystanders. And I'm quite sure nudity in front of a child is illegal here. (And by nudity, I mean just nudity - I don't mean sexual acts).

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