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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 2:08:48 PM   
mnottertail


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*NB:  and this aint noteworthy new 'news stuff' to most the folks here: I didn't vote for 'our' guy last time, and I ain't voting for 'our' guy this time.

I am simply stating 'our' guy will be president.  look at the assclown he is up against.

It is what it is.



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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 2:11:55 PM   
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I think you guys are just worried that your guy isn't doing too well.

Actually my guy is way ahead in the only part of the race that actually counts and Romney has few paths to victory already. Romney must win Florida and either Ohio and Pennsylvania plus at least one other state. The President has many more viable routes open and does not need to put all his eggs in 3 baskets.
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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 4:06:32 PM   
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Poll Average, tells a bit different story....http://realclearpolitics.com/

http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/


Mark ... I have a feeling this is a pretty 'focused' poll as rasmussen has been known to be. Remember all the times in 08 when they declared Obama in 'serious trouble'?

But wait I shouldn't take this lightly... nor should the president... You know, the President who raised FIFTEEN MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS over dinner last night. The biggest single fund raising event in presidential history.
He's probably TERRIFIED as to how this will affect his popularity.


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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 4:20:06 PM   
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What did he say ???
When you look at aggregate numbers rasmussen has a strong bias. I know I had a couple typos but you understand the differrence between anecdotal and statisical evidence?

nate Silver:While waiting for the remaining results to trickle in from states like Colorado and Alaska, I did a quick check on the accuracy of polls from the firm Rasmussen Reports, which came under heavy criticism this year — including from FiveThirtyEight — because its polls showed a strong lean toward Republican candidates.

Indeed, Rasmussen polls quite consistently turned out to overstate the standing of Republicans tonight. Of the roughly 100 polls released by Rasmussen or its subsidiary Pulse Opinion Research in the final 21 days of the campaign, roughly 70 to 75 percent overestimated the performance of Republican candidates, and on average they were biased against Democrats by 3 to 4 points.

Every pollster is entitled to a bad cycle now and again — and Rasmussen has had some good cycles in the past. But their polling took a major downturn this year.

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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 6:33:28 PM   
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Ahem...

http://electoralmap.net/2012/2008_election.php#reportcard



Heh ... you know this is not a legit business/informational/institutional/commercial website right?

Some dope created this site out of MS FrontPage, which basically the Pros all laugh at.

Before believing every bag of nuts you're offered, you should understand the Electronic Commerce (EC Directive) Regulations of 2002, along with any updates.

Not only is this site NOT a legitimate business/informational website, it's a hacker's paradise. You can get at and load the directx api if you know what you're doing.

So their data presented might be based entirely on BS.

How about a better representation next time you're demonstrating your 'intelligence'?
I mean when passing off Tea Bagger make-believe as cold hard facts that is.





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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 6:45:39 PM   
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Hey, how about you actually research WHO had THE MOST ACCURATE POLLING for the 2008 Presidential Election the next time you're demonstrating your "intelligence"?!!

Pssst... it was Rasmussen (GASP!!!)



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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 6:58:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mupainurpleasure

anecdotal evidence is worthless. I was speaking of consistant statistically measured bias. i bet they have a dozen more just like you rferenced but that is not an analysis is it? I posted an analysis based on aggragate numbers not singel polls .


Youre right, too bad youve misidentified the bias. Rasmussen polls likely voters and that is why they are consistently (not anecdotally) at least as and often more accurate than other polls. The other major polls consistently overweight Democrats without adjustment and/or poll all adults or all registered voters. Thats why they are consistently biased.

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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 8:25:08 PM   
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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 8:28:15 PM   
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Hey, how about you actually research WHO had THE MOST ACCURATE POLLING for the 2008 Presidential Election the next time you're demonstrating your "intelligence"?!!


How about you actually do that?

Zogby, AP-GFK, and Insider Advantage.

http://www.fordham.edu/campus_resources/enewsroom/inside_fordham/february_17_2009/news/creator_of_polling_w_34493.asp

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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 8:28:39 PM   
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but in truth, any "polls" with regard to O'Failure or Mittens at this point in time are rather meaningless. 


I have to second MSLA on this one. November is a long way off.



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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 8:39:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

How about you actually do that?



I have... now YOU try it.

http://www.fordham.edu/images/academics/graduate_schools/gsas/elections_and_campaign_/poll%20accuracy%20in%20the%202008%20presidential%20election.pdf



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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 8:52:03 PM   
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As anyone who's frequented these boards knows, I FUCKING DESPISE BAROCCOLI O'FUCKUP


Like you gotta tell us

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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 8:57:45 PM   
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Poll Average, tells a bit different story....http://realclearpolitics.com/

http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/


Letterman just got a standing ovation by saying Mitt Rom,ney's dog has done more for the auto industry than him.


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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 9:17:57 PM   
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And my dogs have done more for creating "shovel-ready" jobs than O'Failure.



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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 9:35:54 PM   
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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 9:38:41 PM   
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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 9:43:45 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Sigh. One guy types a page, posts it on the Internet, and you're the paragon of proof in your mind. Whatever.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

Rasmussen has been slipping since 2006, worse each election cycle.

But believe whatever you want.

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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 9:45:57 PM   
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Again, if that's the lie you need to believe to sleep at night, by all means.



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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 9:46:29 PM   
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RE: Oh, No! Romney seven points ahead in todays Rassmus... - 5/11/2012 9:55:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Don't let the data confuse you.



Gawd, the Left really are that slow... note the link used in YOUR post and the link used in MY post:


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

http://www.fordham.edu/campus_resources/enewsroom/inside_fordham/february_17_2009/news/creator_of_polling_w_34493.asp





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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

http://www.fordham.edu/images/academics/graduate_schools/gsas/elections_and_campaign_/poll%20accuracy%20in%20the%202008%20presidential%20election.pdf




Figure it out yet?!!  THEY'RE FROM THE SAME FUCKING SITE!!!  So obviously the SAME SITE YOU USED for your "paragon of proof" must be complete bullshit then, huh?!!   






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