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ResidentSadist -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 1:36:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AngelOfSilence I find that, while funny, none of what he says is even close to accurate in my experience. Would you rather get a dozen roses once or 1 rose on 12 different days?

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 1:37:50 PM)
Is that a math question, RS?

ResidentSadist -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 2:10:19 PM)
More like a question to point out the validity of Mark's perceptions about attitude difference between the masculine and feminine minds. He says a guy gives himself big points for popping the bill on a dozen roses once, thinking it will hold her happiness for a long time. But she only gives him a little credit for making a single gesture. The guy would be better off giving her 1 rose 12 times and getting 12 credits because men and women score things differently. So yes, it is a question of female vs male mathematics, attitude and perspective.

tj444 -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 2:56:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist More like a question to point out the validity of Mark's perceptions about attitude difference between the masculine and feminine minds. He says a guy gives himself big points for popping the bill on a dozen roses once, thinking it will hold her happiness for a long time. But she only gives him a little credit for making a single gesture. The guy would be better off giving her 1 rose 12 times and getting 12 credits because men and women score things differently. So yes, it is a question of female vs male mathematics, attitude and perspective. ok, i am a girl.. and my ex came home one day with a big bouquet of flowers (I think i was our anniversary),.. i threw them in the garbage,.. i didnt want flowers when there was no sex or cuddles or affection.. flowers just dont cut it, imo.. Had there been sex, cuddles, affection, I would have loved the flowers.. but flowers, roses, whatever.. meaning nothing unless the other stuff comes with it.. I dunno... what does that tell you??? btw, to me, roses are ok but i love freesias (which my ex turned me on to back when i did get the sex, cuddles, affection).. I like the smell of fressias and the delicate flowers..

ResidentSadist -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 3:21:22 PM)
OK... would you rather have one multiple orgasm and cuddles or one orgasm a day with cuddles over multiple days? I suspect there is much more to this story then the snippet your shared because if you threw my flowers in the trash, I wouldn't fuck you or cuddle you either. I mean, did you take the flowers gratefully and then there was no anniversary sex so you threw them away later or what?

tj444 -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 6:16:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist OK... would you rather have one multiple orgasm and cuddles or one orgasm a day with cuddles over multiple days? I suspect there is much more to this story then the snippet your shared because if you threw my flowers in the trash, I wouldn't fuck you or cuddle you either. I mean, did you take the flowers gratefully and then there was no anniversary sex so you threw them away later or what? Yes, a very sad story.. I got a dud the last time.. Dont ask me how that happened.. [>:] oh i was getting multiple Os but it wasnt from my ex, it was from my hitachi magic wand.. that was after i gave up on having sex with him.. For a long time I would ask him for sex all the time and get it like once every 2 or 3 months.. dont ask me why he stopped wanting sex, i have no idea.. a few times in the middle of the night i would wake up and go for a ride but as soon as he woke up he would throw me off!.. what guy does that? I finally stopped asking for sex, moved into the spare room, got the magic wand and started watching internet porn instead.. Then i finally told him it was over, I didnt sign on for just a platonic housemate.. So really, getting flowers when you arent getting any, what was the point? Seriously, what would you rather have, flowers or sex? lol but to answer your trick question, my answer is.. one multiple orgasm and cuddles every day, twice a day on weekends (more often is possible also if the guy is up for it [:D] ).. I have some catching up to do (when i find my right guy)..

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 7:56:07 PM)
It's been a long time since I was in a relationship where I got gifts, and I really am not a scorekeeper....but, I would choose random gifts that showed some thought of me, rather than a showy thing I don't want. And as a howling pit of need, I always choose sincere affection over material obects. TJ, having been turned down for sex by a SO...I feel ya!

tj444 -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 8:31:55 PM)
I dont know how that affects other women that have been turned down for sex but for me, sex isnt just sex, it includes the cuddling, kissing, public displays of affection and all that stuff, it all goes together.. once you stop having sex you lose all the touching, and bonding,... Sex re-enforces the love and the relationship and keeps it strong.. I knew it was over for good, no possible way to "fix" the relationship when i woke up one morning and realized i didnt feel anything for him anymore,.. the love i felt had been drained away.. It was like I had a lobotomy of the heart.. So I need sex in a relationship, a good healthy dose of it regularly.. and that is non-negotiable..

ResidentSadist -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 8:34:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist OK... would you rather have one multiple orgasm and cuddles or one orgasm a day with cuddles over multiple days? I suspect there is much more to this story then the snippet your shared because if you threw my flowers in the trash, I wouldn't fuck you or cuddle you either. I mean, did you take the flowers gratefully and then there was no anniversary sex so you threw them away later or what? Yes, a very sad story.. I got a dud the last time.. Dont ask me how that happened.. [>:] oh i was getting multiple Os but it wasnt from my ex, it was from my hitachi magic wand.. that was after i gave up on having sex with him.. For a long time I would ask him for sex all the time and get it like once every 2 or 3 months.. dont ask me why he stopped wanting sex, i have no idea.. a few times in the middle of the night i would wake up and go for a ride but as soon as he woke up he would throw me off!.. what guy does that? I finally stopped asking for sex, moved into the spare room, got the magic wand and started watching internet porn instead.. Then i finally told him it was over, I didnt sign on for just a platonic housemate.. So really, getting flowers when you arent getting any, what was the point? Seriously, what would you rather have, flowers or sex? lol but to answer your trick question, my answer is.. one multiple orgasm and cuddles every day, twice a day on weekends (more often is possible also if the guy is up for it [:D] ).. I have some catching up to do (when i find my right guy).. Thank you for sharing your story. I suspected there was a lot to it. Spare room, a bob . . . ouch. That sounds like a painfully distant relationship. I currently have a wonderful girl living with me but I am not the right guy for her and she is not the right girl for me. She sleeps in the guest room and has fallen into the role of a domestic slave to my house more than my personal slave. Even we have a more nurturing and sexually active relationship than you describe. He threw you off? When I find everhope initiate sexual affection, I reciprocate until she squirts all over. OK, so back to the root of my reply to AngelOfSilence, Mark's perception and advice is correct, at least as far as you go. You prefer or give bigger points to 12 different occurrences than one occurrence at a magnitude of 12.

tj444 -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/19/2012 8:58:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist OK, so back to the root of my reply to AngelOfSilence, Mark's perception and advice is correct, at least as far as you go. You prefer or give bigger points to 12 different occurrences than one occurrence at a magnitude of 12. well,.. why cant i have it both ways??? 12 different occurrences with the occasional big 12 magnitude occurrence thrown in at times also, like at every 3 or 4 occurrences? That makes the most sense to me.. [:)]

AngelOfSilence -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 11:03:01 AM)
It would depend on the reasons the roses were being given.

ResidentSadist -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 2:24:02 PM)
You see, that is an example of the woman's emotionally motivated thinking paths. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It's a rose, either you are grateful for it or not. Does the motivation really devalue a gift? A guy usually says something when giving a gift. "Here is a rose because you are so lovely" ...... really means, you're cute and I want to fuck you "Here is a rose because I love you " ............... really means, I like you and I want to fuck you "Here is a rose because I appreciate you " ...... really means, I appreciate you and I want to fuck you No matter how much he really does appreciate you, love you and think you're pretty, he still wants to fuck you. Flowers are the severed genitalia of plants. A man usually gives you those genitalia because he wants you to give him your genitalia in return, even if it is only one of the underlying motives.

mnottertail -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 2:28:48 PM)
And if a cigar ain't a cigar, thats a mans emotional thinking path. But so far this thread has taught me to not give women flowers or tell them good job, or be lax on them even for a minute, because it has sinister implications. So, as per my original thoughts it will always be: Hey, let's 68; you blow me and I'll owe you one....cuz anything else is just too dangerous.

kalikshama -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 3:37:48 PM)
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kalikshama -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 3:45:53 PM)
quote: I find that, while funny, none of what he says is even close to accurate in my experience. You've never seen men compartmentalize while with some women, everything is connected? You've never known a woman to get irritated when she wants to vent and her man wants to problem solve?

kalikshama -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 3:51:34 PM)
quote: More like a question to point out the validity of Mark's perceptions about attitude difference between the masculine and feminine minds. He says a guy gives himself big points for popping the bill on a dozen roses once, thinking it will hold her happiness for a long time. But she only gives him a little credit for making a single gesture. The guy would be better off giving her 1 rose 12 times and getting 12 credits because men and women score things differently. So yes, it is a question of female vs male mathematics, attitude and perspective. I had a boss who occasionally sought to motivate me with $100 bills. I was more appreciative of the boss who more frequently brought me $3 Lindts.

BitaTruble -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 4:09:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist quote: ORIGINAL: AngelOfSilence I find that, while funny, none of what he says is even close to accurate in my experience. Would you rather get a dozen roses once or 1 rose on 12 different days? To paraphrase a line in a favored movie - I'd rather have 5 minutes of wonderful over a life-time of mediocre. Himself and I took mini-vacations to Sintra at least a dozen times. They were very cool.. I always, always had a good time in Sintra, but the memories sort of run together. We made one incredible trip to Rome that I'll never forget and I remember almost every moment from beginning to end. I'll take the dozen roses once and enjoy that memory rather than 1 a day for 12 days when I might not be able to recall the specifics of each day later on. From that dozen roses.. I'd take one and press it and save that one. That would be cool if I liked flowers and they didn't make me sneeze. I'd actually rather have a dozen balloons and if they were delivered by a gorilla.. so much the better. [;)]

PeonForHer -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 4:13:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama You've never seen men compartmentalize while with some women, everything is connected? You've never known a woman to get irritated when she wants to vent and her man wants to problem solve? 'Some' women, and 'some' men. Maybe most. I think the distinctions get over-drawn in this sort of pop-psychology, though. The similarities between the sexes are infinitely greater than the differences. I've noticed that there's plenty of money to be made from the quasi-shrinks who knock out nice 'n' simple books on the purportedly stark differences between men and women. Both sexes lap up that theme, it seems. I'm not sure why, really. Still, I'm jealous of the bastards who make a pretty penny out of it, I don't mind admitting. It's got to be nearly as much a money-spinner as the 'Use Psychology to Fuck Over your Competitors and get Immensely Rich and Fat in your Business!' type of pop-psyche stuff. I'm just pissed off that I did the wrong subject at university, basically. Take no notice.

tj444 -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 4:14:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: I find that, while funny, none of what he says is even close to accurate in my experience. You've never seen men compartmentalize while with some women, everything is connected? You've never known a woman to get irritated when she wants to vent and her man wants to problem solve? for me its the opposite, at least when i was with my ex.. i wanted to problem solve, lets sit down and talk about why this is happening and what the possible solutions are.. then implement the best one and hopefully that works.. point being get the problem solved and get on with living life and enjoying it..

mnottertail -> RE: Brains: Men vs. Women (5/22/2012 4:35:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: I find that, while funny, none of what he says is even close to accurate in my experience. You've never seen men compartmentalize while with some women, everything is connected? You've never known a woman to get irritated when she wants to vent and her man wants to problem solve? Oh, yeah, women so whacked the fuck out about Jody and Buffy fighting and that coupled with what they saw on Days of our Lives and they are unable to function well enough to purchase toothpaste. And men are like, who gives a fuck, crest---now. next convo. Yup, I've seen it.

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