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DesideriScuri -> RE: Five ways Mitt Romney is fighting against unions and America's middle class (5/30/2012 9:58:32 AM)
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
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If we did away with Unions now (and I'm not making a blanket statement advocating for this), we would not devolve back into child labor, horrible work conditions, etc. Those are no longer allowed, not because Unions still exist, but because they have been codified.
I wouldn't put that much faith in codification. Legal codification prevented torture for hundreds of years, until it was brought back again in the shiny new bottle of 'enhanced interrogation techniques'. It takes people to safeguard codes, and in as many numbers as it takes to match the power of those who want to erode said codes.
Did it take Unions to bring an end to "enhanced interrogation techniques?"
And, are you telling me that today's Unions are merely safeguarding those things which have been codified? I mean, are you seriously attempting that is the truth?!?!?
No, it didn't take labor unions to end enhanced interrogation techniques but the union of people in the US to stand on principle.
It's too bad the Left can't stand it when the USA Citizenry are unified. Constantly dividing us by race, gender, and or income/wealth. But, when it suits them, they group us all together and claim our unified voice was heard, and they answered our call.
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Now, child labor is one thing, minimum wages, hours and condtions another, and without unions, would permit the slow undoing of many of our ways of life.
What makes you think children are going to be forced into the labor force? What part of 12.5M unemployed US Citizens screams out "we need the children to work?"
Are non-Union shops ratholes? Are the humans working there subjected to sub-human conditions? Who says we are entitled to earning more for working more than 40 hours in a week? That's nothing more than a benefit, not a right.
Minimum wages are drivers of youth unemployment, especially for minorities.
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ONe casually and causally expects corporations (thru their managment) to speak in one voice. Why is it so perplexing that the labor that works for them wants to speak in one voice?
The Unions aren't speaking as one unified voice of the worker. They are speaking for the one unified voice of the Union brass. Each individual corporation speaks for itself. Unions cross employment lines.
"Buy American" means nothing to these people. It's "Buy Union." Buy a Dodge Charger and you get a Canadian car. Buy a Honda made by Americans in Marysville, Ohio and you get a "foreign" car. Then, they say, "the profits aren't being kept here because it's owned by a foreign company." But Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep haven't been majority owned by Americans much lately. Daimler owned them. Now, Fiat. But, since it's Union-made, it's okay.
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Who is the communist here?
Well, I'm certainly not, but you seem to have a much greater leaning towards Communism than I. I mean, you're all uniting the workers. I wonder what the Communist Manifesto says. Oh, yeah. "Workers of the World, Unite!"
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